Slog - Comments on What He Said http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/06/what_he_said_44 Jonathan Rauch in today's Wall Street Journal... In 2008, denying gay Americans the opportunity to marry is not only inhumane, it is unsustainable. History has turned a corner: Gay couples—including gay parents—live openly and for the most part comfortably in mainstream life. This will not change, ever.... Conservatives often say same-sex marriage should be prohibited because it does not exemplify the ideal form of family. They should consider how much less ideal an example gay couples will set by building families and raising children out of wedlock. ... America needs more marriages, not fewer, and the best way to encourage... Copyright 2008 Tue, 24 Jun 2008 13:03:39 -0800 Wed, 25 Jun 2008 06:27:25 -0800 http://www.movabletype.org/?v=3.34 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Comment by J I'm all for gay marriage, but not sure I see the logic in the following statement.

"America needs more marriages, not fewer"

Why?

]]> J http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/06/what_he_said_44#c1058467 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/06/what_he_said_44#c1058467 Homo Tue, 24 Jun 2008 13:15:25 -0800 Comment by Will in Seattle So we can employ more lawyers in gay divorces, J.

]]> Will in Seattle http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/06/what_he_said_44#c1058475 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/06/what_he_said_44#c1058475 Homo Tue, 24 Jun 2008 13:24:54 -0800 Comment by Jaime-Leigh @1

Marriage is, above all, an economic instituation.

]]> Jaime-Leigh http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/06/what_he_said_44#c1058534 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/06/what_he_said_44#c1058534 Homo Tue, 24 Jun 2008 13:55:09 -0800 Comment by rob News item today says the Mormons are going to actively try to ban gay marriage in California by supporting the constitutional amendment. I suggest we subvert them by making an openhearted effort to widen state-sanctioned marriage to plural wives (even tho the LDS church banned polygamy, we all know they really want it). Hell, we could even throw a little "man on dog" action into the marriage revision just to gratify the secret desires of 'ol what's-his-name.

]]> rob http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/06/what_he_said_44#c1058538 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/06/what_he_said_44#c1058538 Homo Tue, 24 Jun 2008 13:57:18 -0800 Comment by umvue Ah, for the days when all this country needed was a good $0.05 cigar.

Why does America need more marriages? Aside from direct impact on certain economic sectors I suppose some people think it a benefit all of those whacky behavioral changes associated with getting married.

]]> umvue http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/06/what_he_said_44#c1058548 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/06/what_he_said_44#c1058548 Homo Tue, 24 Jun 2008 14:07:35 -0800 Comment by Will in Seattle @4 - or they could just go move to a state that thinks like them ... maybe Utah?

]]> Will in Seattle http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/06/what_he_said_44#c1058550 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/06/what_he_said_44#c1058550 Homo Tue, 24 Jun 2008 14:10:08 -0800 Comment by Original Monique Conservatives who object to redefining marriage risk redefining it themselves, as a civil-rights violation.

RISK?!?!

Uhhh try "already have". It IS a civil-rights violation and always has been. Fucking conservative scumbags.

]]> Original Monique http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/06/what_he_said_44#c1058578 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/06/what_he_said_44#c1058578 Homo Tue, 24 Jun 2008 14:36:28 -0800 Comment by Hernandez @5 It seemed pretty clear to me upon reading the full article that the author highly values those whacky behavioral changes.

]]> Hernandez http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/06/what_he_said_44#c1058586 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/06/what_he_said_44#c1058586 Homo Tue, 24 Jun 2008 14:41:50 -0800 Comment by LDSexpert "...(even tho the LDS church banned polygamy, we all know they really want it)."

Technically the church only banned polygamy in THIS life, simply to keep the government off their backs. However, Mormon men, while legally obligated to divorce, may spiritually bind as many women to themselves as they wish and will be with them all eternally, while a woman has to obtain both a legal and spiritual divorce before they can remarry. No polygamy for women, even in the celestial kingdom.

]]> LDSexpert http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/06/what_he_said_44#c1058596 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/06/what_he_said_44#c1058596 Homo Tue, 24 Jun 2008 14:50:37 -0800 Comment by LDSexpert Therefore I doubt they will support allowing a form of polygamy that seeks to redefine the time-honored definition of one man, many women.

]]> LDSexpert http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/06/what_he_said_44#c1058602 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/06/what_he_said_44#c1058602 Homo Tue, 24 Jun 2008 14:57:11 -0800 Comment by Andrew more marriage is needed, not to honor the relationship, but so that the rules are clear for the end of the relationship...death, divorce, deadbeat dads (or moms), etc. And oh yeah, let's not forget not having to testify against your beloved and being clear about who can pull the plug.

]]> Andrew http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/06/what_he_said_44#c1058614 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/06/what_he_said_44#c1058614 Homo Tue, 24 Jun 2008 15:06:55 -0800 Comment by Ayden Has Murdock fired Mr. Rauch yet? Can't believe he let that opinion be aired...

]]> Ayden http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/06/what_he_said_44#c1058628 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/06/what_he_said_44#c1058628 Homo Tue, 24 Jun 2008 15:15:07 -0800 Comment by AMB Good editorial. The comments page is full of stupid bullshit from right-wing douchebags, too, which is always a nice bonus.

]]> AMB http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/06/what_he_said_44#c1058647 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/06/what_he_said_44#c1058647 Homo Tue, 24 Jun 2008 15:27:42 -0800 Comment by Will in Seattle @10 - originally, before that, it was one woman, many men.

]]> Will in Seattle http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/06/what_he_said_44#c1058694 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/06/what_he_said_44#c1058694 Homo Tue, 24 Jun 2008 16:08:59 -0800 Comment by mintygreen says who, will?

]]> mintygreen http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/06/what_he_said_44#c1058904 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/06/what_he_said_44#c1058904 Homo Wed, 25 Jun 2008 06:27:25 -0800