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I wonder if the Segway suer sued Huffy after her first fall when learning to ride a bike, or sued GM for her first car accident?

Posted by Lou | June 5, 2008 7:36 AM
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Also in the news, Obama says he's open to using the "military option" with Iran:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/jun/05/hillaryclinton.barackobama1

Posted by Trevor | June 5, 2008 7:37 AM
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You missed the ridiculousness of the possible actors strike.

Yeah, just what actors need. More money. What a bunch of privileged rich children. God I fucking hate actors. I'd rather have a drink with George Bush.

Posted by Mr. Poe | June 5, 2008 7:48 AM
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@2....so that's ....bad?

Alll he said was this: "At the Aipac meeting, Obama received several standing ovations. ...he yesterday promised that as president he would guarantee Israel's security. He also said that while he favoured talks with Iran, the military option would remain on the table."

HE's only against dumb wars, remember?

Guaranteeing Israel's security. Doesn't that mean if Iran nukes Israel there would be massive retaliation against Iran? Isn;t it better to tell them this in advance, so they don't do it? So isn't his position substantively the same as Clinton's, he just speaks more softly?

You want him to say "OK Iran, you attack Israel, and we won't use the military option"?

What do you want him to say, "my diplomatic approach precludes force"?
The idea is speak softly AND carry a big stick.

Posted by PC | June 5, 2008 7:59 AM
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George Takei is such a riot! If you ever have a chance to hear him on The Howard Stern Show, take it.

Posted by Mike in MO | June 5, 2008 8:05 AM
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@4

unPC the insincerity of everything you have to say about Obama is galling. How does it help him to have a two faced flack like you on his side? Anyone who knows you has to ask, are you lying now or were you lying then? Or does the truth become a lie coming from you?

Posted by elenchos | June 5, 2008 8:15 AM
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If anyone needs the benefit of an actors strike, it's the voice actors from The Simpsons who just signed a new contract for $400K per episode.

Posted by Banna | June 5, 2008 8:37 AM
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Fuck you Shatner! You were always a hack!

Posted by George Takei's Peen | June 5, 2008 8:45 AM
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George Takei is gay?

Posted by Greg | June 5, 2008 8:47 AM
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Greg, have you been living in the delta quadrant?

Posted by Bellevue Ave | June 5, 2008 8:56 AM
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(un)PC @4: The idea is speak softly AND carry a big stick.

I believe Hillary "The Obliterator" Clinton subscribes to the Yosemite Sam school of diplomacy: "I speak loud and carry a bigger stick!!"

Anyway, (un)PC, your contributions are appreciated. I look forward to continuing with this Clinton/Obama debate well into the fall.

Posted by cressona | June 5, 2008 8:58 AM
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Finally Hillary is going to leave the race...wait.. Oh oh...did we just nominate a black guy for President? Holy SHIT, we are so TOTALLY going to get our asses handed to us by the GOP. Talk about a reality check on racism this fall.......

Posted by Cato the Younger Younger | June 5, 2008 8:59 AM
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I think I'll stop by Ruby Chow Park and watch the planes for a while today.

Posted by Fnarf | June 5, 2008 9:23 AM
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I thought Shat mended his fences with the rest of the Trek cast on that Futurama episode.

Posted by kebabs | June 5, 2008 9:30 AM
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@ 9: yup. And so is Dan Savage! Can you imagine?

Posted by Mike in MO | June 5, 2008 9:40 AM
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@10, 15: Sorry. Apparently I managed to miss his autobiography, I am Gay.

Posted by Greg | June 5, 2008 10:14 AM
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The woman was apparently working for Segway when the accident happened. Although I can't figure out why she's suing them for making a defective product when she clearly should be suing them for getting injured on the job.


Oh, and all but a tiny minority of screen actors are not rolling in dough. The guild doesn't exist for the benefit of actors earning $20 million per. It exists for the benefit of actors expected to work 18-hour days for peanuts.

Posted by keshmeshi | June 5, 2008 10:34 AM
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Odrama always the typical politician who would say anything to get elected. If (and a big if) he becomes the prez and some people screw up guess what he's gonna say? "oh I didn't know he(she) is like that (even tho I've known them for 20 years)." That'll be his standard answer "I didn't know".

Posted by Odrama | June 5, 2008 10:49 AM
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Actors make a choice whether to work 18 hour days for peanuts. They do it because there could be a potentially huge payoff down the road. I don't mind if they go on strike though because I don't need to watch TV or Movies to be entertained.

Posted by Bellevue Ave | June 5, 2008 10:49 AM
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Some of the Star Trek cast have been very unforgiving.

Posted by elswinger | June 5, 2008 10:55 AM
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No mention of Patty Murray getting vetted as a VP pick for Obama? Check out Chris Bowers.

Posted by ru shur | June 5, 2008 10:56 AM
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I have always, always, always wanted to wrestle a tiger. Or a bear. It's like snuggling a huge teddy bear. With claws. And teeth.

Posted by H | June 5, 2008 11:25 AM
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Mr. Poe, speaking on behalf of my fellow actors - I'm sure the feeling is entirely mutual.

And @19:

It's not a "choice" if you aren't given the option to "choose".

Posted by COMTE | June 5, 2008 11:56 AM
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@19,

They also made a choice to create a guild. And which sainted Republican used to be president of that guild?

If anyone needed the protection of a guild, it was that hacky actor Ronald Reagan.

Posted by keshmeshi | June 5, 2008 12:29 PM
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COMTE, are you compelled to be an actor by anything other than personal preference? did you choose acting as a profession or vocation that you would like to have? and were you aware of the requirements often asked of said job before you started to pursue it?

I understand that actors have hard lives 99% and they are well within their abilities to try and negotiate better working conditions. but it isn't totally outlandish for someone like poe to harbor resentment against actors complaining about how hard their job is, as if that has some kind of merit in and of itself, or compared to other media related jobs.

Posted by Bellevue Ave | June 5, 2008 12:35 PM
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Turn the question around on whatever YOUR chosen profession is BA - are you entitled to things like safe working conditions, a liveable wage, health and retirement benefits by virtue of the kind of job you do? Or are these "entitlements" that should apply to ANY respectible form of employment?

NOBODY - and I mean, NOBODY "chooses" to work "18 hour days for peanuts", because no reasonable person would work under those conditions IF they had an alternative. The people who DO work under those conditions do so PRECISELY because they DON'T have a choice in the matter - it's either that or starve.

Posted by COMTE | June 5, 2008 3:04 PM
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COMTE, respectable is a pretty relative concept.

And I also stated that people do work acting jobs because there is a potential payoff that can be huge at some point and that is why there is always someone willing to take those crappy acting jobs for peanuts. Have you ever not applied for an acting job or turned down a potential offer to act in something because it conflicted with your schedule or because you didn't want to do what was asked of you?

I just don't get this idea that actors don't have a choice in deciding that they wanted to be actors at the onset of searching for an acting job. Or that acting jobs are all that they can do and there exists no alternative employment. "I can either take this job or I'll starve because someone else is willing to do it. Oh why does god force me to be an actor and give me this cruel fate."

There is such a glut of people wanting to be actors that the studios can seek out those that are willing to do things a lot of people would consider unreasonable. The supply of acting jobs is scarce but the demand is huge. Reduce the amount of people that want to be actors and the cost of being an actor will go down.

Posted by Bellevue Ave | June 5, 2008 3:50 PM
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i chose my current job because it offered me what I wanted. It has it's benefits but I'm not entitled to them. They offered them to me because they value my labor and what I bring to the company and there wasn't anyone willing to do the same work for less than me.

Consider pharmacist's jobs. Should they be forced to take actions they consider immoral like distributing RU486? and if they should be forced, why? why should a pharmacy or the government give the ultimatum to pharmacists of "be immoral or starve." what alternatives do pharmacists have in this situation?

What about firefighters' jobs? Why should they be forced to stay awake for long shifts and put themselves in danger of injury?

What about soldiers? Why should they be forced to fight in wars they think are wrong? Surely most of the soldiers that enlist have very little alternatives otherwise they wouldnt sign up for something so dangerous and thankless.

I just don't understand how people are entitled to a shorter work hour and higher paying job if there are other people willing to do that same job for less money and longer hours.

Posted by Bellevue Ave | June 5, 2008 4:19 PM
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and the more i read your reply the more i'm convinced you're either trolling me or you have an inane esoteric belief in vocational fate (or you don't understand how labor markets work).

Posted by Bellevue Ave | June 5, 2008 4:45 PM
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Poor Bellevue. Take my advice: spend the time working out one clear, focused, and sound argument, and post that, rather than dribbling out a series of stream-of-consciousness posts. One of these days you could win one of your arguments but it will never happen if you're going to keep doing it this way.

Posted by elenchos | June 5, 2008 4:58 PM
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elenchos, i'd have to stop working to post in a fashion that isn't stream of consciousness.

Posted by Bellevue Ave | June 5, 2008 5:02 PM
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and it's nice to know that the only thing holding me back is how i articulate points.

Posted by Bellevue Ave | June 5, 2008 5:26 PM
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Always regretted that I just missed out on experiencing Ruby Chow's. That was a part of Old Seattle I really would have liked to have experienced. It was THE place for several years. RIP, Madame Chow.

Posted by Bauhaus | June 6, 2008 1:17 AM

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