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It's certainly true that Obama's position on FISA is disappointing and of real concern. However, let's see how the Senate FISA debate plays out before jumping into full fledged condemnation, let alone contemplating forgiveness.

The guy was a Constitutional scholar. There may be a strategy here that's not obvious. For instance, the "compromise" FISA bill provides telcos retroactive immunity from civil lawsuits, but it does not provide retroactive *criminal* immunity.

I am concerned and disappointed, but not quite ready to come to conclusions yet.

Posted by also | June 24, 2008 7:29 PM

Call his campaign office at 866-675-2008 or e-mail them at and tell them that you want Obama to stand by his promise to support filibuster of any bill supporting immunity for the telecommunications companies who spied on us. Tell them that you understand the bill on which the Senate will soon vote will allow those traitors off the hook if they simply prove that the President told them what they did would be okay, and that if this is the sort of thing we can expect to see out of the Democrats, you'll cast your vote for Ralph Motherfucking Nader this November.

See also: Daily Kos: "Amnesty, Obama, and the Good Fight"

Posted by Phil M | June 24, 2008 7:30 PM

"A long habit of not thinking a thing wrong, gives it a superficial appearance of being right, and raises at first a formidable outcry in defense of custom." - Paine, Thomas Common Sense, Anonymous, 1776

Posted by Thomas Paine | June 25, 2008 12:44 AM

I think his thinking is it's better we lose our freedom than he be accused of being soft on terror. Disappointed? I expected no better.

Posted by Vince | June 25, 2008 6:44 AM

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