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NO she doesn't.

Mistaking slate for salon? Really?

what WAS her point?

Don't sweat it Dan. Even a loud-mouthed blow-hard like Malkin is statistically likely to be right on rare occasions.

And we ARE talking about the "baby-daddy"/"baby-mama" thing, right?

Please read on to the selection from Slate, and I think the stuff about Mrs. O introducing Mr. O as her "baby's daddy" does open the door a bit.

Open the door to what? Being slimed by idiots like Malkin? I disagree.

God dammit, you made me read Michelle Malkin.

here we have a perfect example of people pretending to get bent out of shape over something because it is advantageous for them to do so. wasn't there a movie called "baby mama"? starring 2 white women, no less? where was the outrage then?

but what's even more annoying is that michelle malkin is the fucking queen of faux-outrage, and yet she never passes up an opportunity to grand stand when she's at the receiving end of it. jesus i hate her. hat her SO MUCH.

Michelle Malkin does not now, nor has she ever had, a point.

Yes! Dunkin' Donuts ARE terrorists!

My other comment aside...

Great, so it's acceptable for white people and tabloid publications to use black slang. I don't disagree.

Is it acceptable for a national news network to use it in a headline? In this case, it's not meant to make the prose more interesting, nor to be "hip". It's meant instead to be disparaging. She can't possibly argue against that.

Almost, but not quite. While Michelle Obama did use the term to introduce her husband, that doesn't really make it okay for the media to adopt it and use it, esp. with the racial connotations tied to it.
If any media outlet attempted to justify using "the n-word" with, "well, Jay-Z said it," it would never fly.

Her point is on her head.

while i hate malkin with a passion, the obama fans were totally assholes about the whole thing. it's funny how everyone was all over the few hillary supporters saying bizarre shit, but when obama supporters do it they are totally justified. politics as usual, my friends.

Michelle Malkin is a crazy wingnut; however Odrama's followers are equally crazed for being soooo freaking paranoid and sensitive about everything Odrama. Nope nobody can criticize "the one".

while i hate malkin with a passion, the obama fans were totally assholes about the whole thing. it's funny how everyone was all over the few hillary supporters saying bizarre shit, but when obama supporters do it they are totally justified. politics as usual, my friends.

@14, 15: I can't speak for all the Obama supporters, but healthy criticism or debate of issues would be acceptable. Racially coded language, no that's unacceptable. It's not idolatrous to want an American political campaign to be free of such bullshit. Even the original Fox story doesn't have a lot of basis - it's founded on two comments from people not tied to the Obama campaign.

#12 N-word everyone know it's a derogatory term for blacks specifically. Baby-mama or baby-daddy are slangs that are not racial specific. According to your logic if Michele or Barry wears some big diamond earing or necklace the media cannot say he/she is wearing bling-bling? Bling also had negative connotation at first (materialist) but now almost everyone uses it.

@1 wins.

it wouldn't be the first time a writer is erroneously blamed for a headline assigned by some cheesy, sensationalistic editor with a possibly different agenda than the writer has. not to say that i generally defend malkin. perish the thought.

@20 - this is Michelle Malkin we're talking about ... stop trying to make excuses for her.

Point or no point, why the fuck are you wasting your time reading Michelle Malkin in the first place?

@18 I think baby mama is somewhat racially specific. Not as much as "the n word", but still, it's there.

I think Ziggity @11 has it right.

I agree with @11. This is a news network. Remember when news networks used to be more erudite and didn't resort to slang? Me neither, but frankly, I don't think the networks should be all slangalicious.

In a better world, fuckheads like Malkin wouldn't be allowed within a thousand yards of network news. It has nothing to do with "Odrama" or not "Odrama". Hitler loved dogs.

oh, leave me alone, will @21. i've never forgiven you for using the phrase "newsflash" on me.

Ziggity--
I understand your point, but I very much disagree. It is no different than the "Dean Scream" or the Al Gore "I invented the Internet" yadda yadda yadda...the news is allowed to poke fun at politicians and the things they do, even if it is all manufactured for sensationalisitic reading rather than factual accuracy. Michelle opened the door when she publicy refered to Obama as "my baby's daddy" or whatever. actually, it humanizes them and probably helps them in the long run, but only an elitist liberal asshole would then criticize the media for picking up on a funny exchange. racial coding? c'mon, that ain't even accurate...

It's always OK to target women. Now that Hillary is out of the picture up comes the next target Michelle. Maybe now the Obamatons will see the sexism........carefully wrapped with racism.

Taking Michele Malkin's side on anything makes you a massive hypocrite. She doesn't have a point on anything. She's 50% self-promotion and 50% Republicn promotion. She's no more a journalist than Perez Hilton, and you hold yourself as some media savy aging hipster who won't talk to bohunks on planes?

Newsflash, ellarosa thinks that neocon scum like Malkin, Will, Novak, et al should be read.

In related news, 90 percent of America disagrees with ellarosa and is sick and tired of lame excuses for why we should read tripe by neocons who can't even enlist to die in a war we never should have been involved in.

27: Generally, the media outlets will report rather on the furor surrounding someone's stupid or inane comments, as in the examples you provide. It's as if, as suggested above, they had Jay-Z on for an interview and put a banner beneath him that said "Angry N-----". Might be funny as satire, but in the case of a news organization reporting on a campaign, it's pejorative. Malkin may backpedal by saying "It's OK because Slate says so," but please - it's African-American slang.

P.S. I was enjoying your post until the "massive elitist liberal" bit, which made me weep into my $8 fair trade latte. Too bad we can't have a debate on Slog without pointless name-calling.

"It's OK because Slate says so,"
NO it was Michele who used it and she probably did it to make her husband appears to be more "black" (whatever that means). Just because some black rappers popularize the phrase doesn't make it an exclusive black slang; shiiit some of my highly educated black friends hardly knows the slang since they don't listen to rap.

I think it's pretty much common knowledge that Bush's nickname for Karl Rove was Turd Blossom. Next time Fox News does a story involving the two of them I'm sure their crawl will refer to him thusly. I mean, hey, Bush calls him that himself, so it should be fine.

Newsflash, ellarosa -- Will in Seattle is a clueless knob.

So you'd be cool with a news show subtitle reading "Dan Savage: Fag" the next time you're on tv, then? After all, you've been involved in trying to reclaim and neutralize the word as a point of pride--surely you'd appreciate a completely contextless use of it to label you for an audience of millions.

Dan: at least one of Malkin's unimpeachable sources for this is flat-out making it up. Ahem.

Dan: at least one of Malkin's unimpeachable sources for this is flat-out making it up. Ahem.

The problem is not Malkin--that's what she gets paid to do. If no one paid her she'd disappear.

The problem is Fox putting that banner up. THAT's the reprehensible part. But again, that's what they get paid to do. If there was no market for their bullshit, they'd disappear. Sadly, it's profitable.

Yes @35 if Dan's partner had ever called him a fag, it would be perfectly acceptable for a right wing hack like Malkin to go on TV and start screaming that at him. That's the new standard for appropriate political discourse. Unbelievable naivete buying into such a whopper of bullshit justification from one of the worst right wing hags of all time.

There's a difference between calling someone someone else's baby daddy and then doing it the way Fox did it, which was to run it in a caption already loaded with other phrases designed to get a point across. It was a stupid thing for a "news" organization to do, especially one that claims to be fair and balanced. This is much worse than the "terrorist fist jab" bullshit.