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<title>Slog - Comments on Mariners Investigation Clears Mariners of Wrongdoing</title>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/06/mariners_investigation_clears_mariners_o</link>
<description>The PI got the email, but I&apos;m apparently not on the Mariners&apos; email list. I&apos;m hurt, Rebecca Hale, I&apos;m hurt....</description>
<copyright>Copyright 2008</copyright>
<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 16:32:13 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by momster</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>but you did make drudge today...</p>]]></description>
<author>momster</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/06/mariners_investigation_clears_mariners_o#c1041403</link>
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<category>Sports</category>
<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 16:44:41 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Fnarf</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>No wrongdoing? Starting Miguel Cairo (OPS FIVE OH EIGHT) at first base? That's not wrongdoing? </p>]]></description>
<author>Fnarf</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/06/mariners_investigation_clears_mariners_o#c1041408</link>
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<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 16:52:19 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by suburbanlegend</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Gee, Dan, now do ya think just maybe that reality-show attention whore was doing a little more than just pecking her partner on the cheek? That seemed a likely scenario from the get-go, but of course it made a much better outrage story to blame the Mariners for their homophobia, didn't it?</p>]]></description>
<author>suburbanlegend</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/06/mariners_investigation_clears_mariners_o#c1041438</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/06/mariners_investigation_clears_mariners_o#c1041438</guid>
<category>Sports</category>
<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 17:05:28 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by brett</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>her case would be a lot stronger if she hadn't publicly, sloppily made out with Tila Tequila on TV.</p>]]></description>
<author>brett</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/06/mariners_investigation_clears_mariners_o#c1041446</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/06/mariners_investigation_clears_mariners_o#c1041446</guid>
<category>Sports</category>
<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 17:10:30 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by w7ngman</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>#5, you have to admit, though, a misguided and reactionary protest would still be a riot. Oh so clever.</p>]]></description>
<author>w7ngman</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/06/mariners_investigation_clears_mariners_o#c1041472</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/06/mariners_investigation_clears_mariners_o#c1041472</guid>
<category>Sports</category>
<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 17:26:55 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by w7ngman</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>#4, even.</p>]]></description>
<author>w7ngman</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/06/mariners_investigation_clears_mariners_o#c1041473</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/06/mariners_investigation_clears_mariners_o#c1041473</guid>
<category>Sports</category>
<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 17:27:45 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by ben</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Well ... <a href="http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/06/mariners_investigation_clears_mariners_o#c1041438" rel="nofollow">@4</a>, it'd be easier to assume that if her story wasn't pretty well confirmed by <i><a href="http://blog.seattlepi.nwsource.com/thebigblog/archives/140508.asp" rel="nofollow">the guy who kicked her out!</a></i></p>]]></description>
<author>ben</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/06/mariners_investigation_clears_mariners_o#c1041476</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/06/mariners_investigation_clears_mariners_o#c1041476</guid>
<category>Sports</category>
<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 17:30:11 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by lostboy</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Safeco Field is <a href="http://blog.seattlepi.nwsource.com/thebigblog/archives/140508.asp" rel="nofollow">apparently emphasizing</a> that the comment about explaining why two women are kissing originated with another fan, not with the staff member (members?) who then quoted it to Guerrero and her date.</p>

<p>That's a red herring.&#160; (As is Guerrero's putative attention-whoring.)</p>

<p>The comment, of course, characterizes same-sex kissing as (a) fundamentally different from, and (b) inherently more offensive than opposite-sex kissing.&#160; For an employee to repeat it to the kissing couple at all, much less actually <b>cite the comment as a supporting reason</b> for proscribing their behavior, is discriminatory in and of itself.&#160; Doing so endorses the legitimacy of the comment's distinction of sexual orientation, under color of authority and with Safeco Field's imprimatur.</p>

<p>That Rebecca Hale's <a href="http://blog.seattlepi.nwsource.com/thebigblog/archives/140497.asp" rel="nofollow">statement to the P.I.</a> failed to address this belies the assertions of Safeco Field's sincerity and seriousness about investigating the incident.&#160; Seems what they were sincere and serious about was PR damage control.</p>]]></description>
<author>lostboy</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/06/mariners_investigation_clears_mariners_o#c1041484</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/06/mariners_investigation_clears_mariners_o#c1041484</guid>
<category>Sports</category>
<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 17:35:46 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Jubilation T. Cornball</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>This is all a ploy by the Mariners to fill Safeco in a shitty season.  I mean, you start getting the word out that dykes are on each other at Safeco, and all of Renton will hock their ATVs to buy season tickets.</p>]]></description>
<author>Jubilation T. Cornball</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/06/mariners_investigation_clears_mariners_o#c1041485</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/06/mariners_investigation_clears_mariners_o#c1041485</guid>
<category>Sports</category>
<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 17:37:03 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by elenchos</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>lostboy, you beat me to it:</p>

<p>If the discomfort in explaining to the kids why two women were kissing wasn't the reason the usher kicked them out, then why did he repeat to them what the complaining mother had said?  Is it merely the job of ushers to relay prejudiced slurs from one guest to another at the park without owning any responsibility for them?</p>]]></description>
<author>elenchos</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/06/mariners_investigation_clears_mariners_o#c1041487</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/06/mariners_investigation_clears_mariners_o#c1041487</guid>
<category>Sports</category>
<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 17:40:18 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by unwelcomed</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Don't worry Dan, officials barely ever reply to me either when I write up posts about Seattle agencies that investigate themselves and always find themselves innocent.</p>

<p>You get used to it, being ignored can be liberating.</p>]]></description>
<author>unwelcomed</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/06/mariners_investigation_clears_mariners_o#c1041490</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/06/mariners_investigation_clears_mariners_o#c1041490</guid>
<category>Sports</category>
<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 17:42:18 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by dw</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>I stand by <a href="http://seattle.metblogs.com/2008/05/29/the-ms-vs-the-gays/" rel="nofollow">my post last week</a>.</p>]]></description>
<author>dw</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/06/mariners_investigation_clears_mariners_o#c1041506</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/06/mariners_investigation_clears_mariners_o#c1041506</guid>
<category>Sports</category>
<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 17:58:50 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Steveve</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>So what about a kiss-in? I think there should be one that involves gay folks and straight folks.  We need to assert the right of people to show displays of affection in public. I will be be at some coming games with my bf and we will kiss in the stands. I dare anyone to stop us.</p>]]></description>
<author>Steveve</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/06/mariners_investigation_clears_mariners_o#c1041522</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/06/mariners_investigation_clears_mariners_o#c1041522</guid>
<category>Sports</category>
<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 18:17:08 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by calvin</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>The most reasonable explanation for the usher repeating the comment of the complainer is that the usher probably felt caught in the middle of two raging egos and had to quiet one down. Not that repeating the comment was the best way to quell this sort of thing, but you can see how anyone would feel caught in such a situation.<br />
I think it is mighty odd that all this started with just a peck on the cheek, as the kisser stated.  Does anyone really ever call security over a peck on the cheek?  I don't believe her.</p>]]></description>
<author>calvin</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/06/mariners_investigation_clears_mariners_o#c1041547</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/06/mariners_investigation_clears_mariners_o#c1041547</guid>
<category>Sports</category>
<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 18:52:28 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Sirkowski</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Bad things happen to reality TV contestants. Sweet poetic justice!</p>]]></description>
<author>Sirkowski</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/06/mariners_investigation_clears_mariners_o#c1041553</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/06/mariners_investigation_clears_mariners_o#c1041553</guid>
<category>Sports</category>
<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 19:09:31 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by leek</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Note that the link ben @8 posted now has a post up from someone supposedly sitting near the incident who weighs in with his/her take. Pretty reputable-sounding, at that.</p>

<p><a href="http://blog.seattlepi.nwsource.com/thebigblog/archives/140508.asp" rel="nofollow">http://blog.seattlepi.nwsource.com/thebigblog/archives/140508.asp</a></p>

<p><br />
</p>]]></description>
<author>leek</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/06/mariners_investigation_clears_mariners_o#c1041565</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/06/mariners_investigation_clears_mariners_o#c1041565</guid>
<category>Sports</category>
<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 19:40:16 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Will in Seattle</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>There should be a kiss-in, but it should be a mass LGBT-straight combined event.</p>

<p>It's easy to throw one couple out.</p>

<p>It's hard to throw ten couples out.</p>

<p>It's impossible to throw 1000 couples out.</p>]]></description>
<author>Will in Seattle</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/06/mariners_investigation_clears_mariners_o#c1041645</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/06/mariners_investigation_clears_mariners_o#c1041645</guid>
<category>Sports</category>
<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 00:42:18 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Mike in MO</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>KISS IN!!!!!!!</p>

<p>FUCK YEAH!!!!!!!!</p>]]></description>
<author>Mike in MO</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/06/mariners_investigation_clears_mariners_o#c1041663</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/06/mariners_investigation_clears_mariners_o#c1041663</guid>
<category>Sports</category>
<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 05:23:15 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by lostboy</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Will @18, agreed.&#160; We should keep the kissing strictly tame but deliver it in all combinations of gender and orientation.</p>

<p>Safeco's self-exoneration doesn't wash <a href="http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/06/mariners_investigation_clears_mariners_o#c1041484" rel="nofollow">imho</a>, and action is called for.</p>]]></description>
<author>lostboy</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/06/mariners_investigation_clears_mariners_o#c1041682</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/06/mariners_investigation_clears_mariners_o#c1041682</guid>
<category>Sports</category>
<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 08:30:38 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by benjr</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>#11 FYI, they were not 'kicked out', just told to 'tone it down'.  Not agreeing or disagreeing, just trying to keep the facts straight.</p>]]></description>
<author>benjr</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/06/mariners_investigation_clears_mariners_o#c1041718</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/06/mariners_investigation_clears_mariners_o#c1041718</guid>
<category>Sports</category>
<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 09:42:04 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by never met a dyke I didn&apos;t like</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>I feel cheated. I never see any making out at baseball games - straight, gay, or bi. All I ever see are people talking on cell phones, and (thank the lord) attractive young women leaving and returning to their seats every inning.</p>

<p>The Giants used to have "family-friendly" sections where no alcohol is allowed. Maybe the Mariners should designate a couple of sections as official snogging zones.</p>]]></description>
<author>never met a dyke I didn&apos;t like</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/06/mariners_investigation_clears_mariners_o#c1041719</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/06/mariners_investigation_clears_mariners_o#c1041719</guid>
<category>Sports</category>
<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 09:42:55 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Hunter</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, we should totally <i>buy tickets</i> have a kiss-in!  That'll show them!  Corporations <i>hate</i> when people give them money for their product!</p>]]></description>
<author>Hunter</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/06/mariners_investigation_clears_mariners_o#c1042614</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/06/mariners_investigation_clears_mariners_o#c1042614</guid>
<category>Sports</category>
<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jun 2008 12:45:26 -0800</pubDate>
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