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The chafing from all that naked bicycling is bound to put anyone in a bad mood.

Posted by meh | June 28, 2008 6:07 PM
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no shortage of self absorbed rectum in that letter writer.

Posted by snarky | June 28, 2008 6:07 PM
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Really it's better that these rectums be self absorbed. If they weren't they'd be looking for someone else to absorb them.

Posted by Rhiannon | June 28, 2008 6:50 PM
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Is this guy representative of the inclusive spirit of the parade in Fremont? Dumbass.

Posted by Balt-O-Matt | June 28, 2008 7:27 PM
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Dude, everyone except this guy knows The Stranger is a Capitol Hill magazine.

Posted by catnextdoor | June 28, 2008 7:33 PM
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I think the irony with the capitol hill party, is that there is a pride celebration inside a chain link fenced corridor.

Posted by Ryan | June 28, 2008 7:57 PM
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The pride parade isn't inclusive? Are they checking sexual preference at the door?

And if they are, wouldn't they let guys like this in, after detecting his closet 'mo status with their finely-tuned gaydar?

Posted by CP | June 28, 2008 9:25 PM
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I think the point I'm making is that you really aren't that "free" if your celebration has to be contained.

Posted by Ryan | June 28, 2008 9:31 PM
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...or i guess i can be 21 and have 15 bucks to be welcome in a party to celebrate my sexual status.

Posted by Ryan | June 28, 2008 9:37 PM
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Posted by don'tfeedthetrolls | June 28, 2008 9:40 PM
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fagginess? huh...

Posted by douglas | June 28, 2008 11:01 PM
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According to Google, Mr. Crist is a writer. Ha!

And since when is the Fremont parade all inclusive? To participate, you have to make a damn float. So, doesn't that exclude the artistically handicapped and the lazy? Sheesh.

Posted by James | June 28, 2008 11:21 PM
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He means "inclusive" in spirit, sillies. I get it.

Gay pride is important, don't get me wrong, but as a fun thing to go watch at the weekend it hold absolutely no appeal for most of the population. I'm not talking about the crazy religious right folk, just people that are straight and don't happen to have close gay friends or family. Most of these people will happily let gay folk marry, just don't see the appeal of a festival that ain't made for them.

The fremont parade holds a little more universal appeal. And, it terms of making adding to the life of a city and making a place people stay, that sort of thing is just as important.

Oh, and i don't care about naked cyclists that much :)

Posted by Sto | June 29, 2008 7:29 AM
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Jesus. If it isn't bitch bitch bitch from Old Ballard it's a lot of bitching from Old Fremont. It's tiresome listening to these crusty old farts demand that we glorify their greatness. If these old fuds had built Seattle a transit system in their day I'd respect them but all they did with there lives was get high and call it art. And now they want us all to gather an pay homage to them. Please.

Posted by elenchos | June 29, 2008 7:39 AM
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I'll tell you what I want in my self-absorbed rectum...an enormous whozeewhatsit!!!

Posted by Christopher Frizzelle's Enormous Whozeewhatsit | June 29, 2008 9:00 AM
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Since when is any Gay Pride event supposed to be inclusive? It doesn't even make logical sense to pretend it should......

The whole point is to celebrate NOT being part of everything else, IMHO.

Posted by Hartiepie | June 29, 2008 10:28 AM
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I'm not going to defend the dumb-ass who wrote the letter but it is "The Stranger - Seattle's Only Newspaper." Nowhere does it say it's The Stranger - Seattle's Only Gay Newspaper," or The Stranger - Capitol Haill's Only Newspaper."

If it were any other year then a brief mention of the solstice parade in Fremont would be adequate, But it was the 20th anniversary after all.

Posted by elswinger | June 29, 2008 11:14 AM
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17 for the win.

Posted by merry | June 29, 2008 11:32 AM
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Tell Mr. Hater To The Editor that Chelsea Alvarez-Bell told me to tell him:

"Your'e a fag!"

Posted by Cookie W. Monster | June 29, 2008 1:10 PM
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@19 -- And she probably spelled it EXACTLY as you relayed...

Carry on.

Posted by Jubilation T. Cornball | June 29, 2008 2:58 PM
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At least the Gay Pride Parade is celebrating something and holds political and social significance or a number of folks, though perhaps that significance is divisive on some banal level. The Fremont Parade is about seasons or something. I'd have a hard time explaining its purpose to non-hippies.

Posted by Ho Ho Ho Green Giant | June 29, 2008 4:15 PM
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Ignoring the vitriolic tone of the letter writer, his/her point was the fact that Fremont throws a kick-ass parade - one that puts the pride march to shame - and The Stranger chose to ignore it. Even with The Stranger's offering thousands of dollars in prize money to the gay and lesbian community to encourage us to come up with better floats and marching contingents for pride day, we couldn't create ONE float that touched the fabulousness of so many of the Fremont entries. It's about time that The Stranger acknowledged the pride committee's ineptness, and supported the Fremont Parade as Seattle's true gay parade.

Posted by Dingleberry | June 29, 2008 4:21 PM
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first: Fremont hippies, shut the fuck up, If you wanted you could enter your "awesome" floats into the gay pride parade and get everyone excited for the Fremont parade next year while also joining in with another group that probably supports your same causes.

second: since when hasn't the stranger bitched about how inept the pride committee is #22? PRIDE is about more than twinks in body glitter, but apparently the Fremonter's forget history, or how hard GLBT people had to work to get those damn parades in the first place. Stop having pride parades and we'll remember pretty quickly why we were having em in the first place. all you have to do is look to places like Israel and Belgrade and how hard they still have to work to have pride marches. Don't take what you have for granted, kwitcher bitchin' fruitcakes.

Posted by Hunter | June 29, 2008 4:45 PM
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As a non gay male who went to both I have the say the Fremont parade was way gayer and way cooler. Pride was great for a confidence boost (gay guys pinching my butt in the food lines rules) but the Solstice parade was just a flat out better parade from a "parade" standpoint.

I totally understand the symbolism and the political power of the pride parade but for fucks sake my gay friends, use your legendary creativity and artistic expression to make it pleasing to watch instead of a 2 hour long ad for Seattle companies that are happy to brag about their inclusiveness to sell shit here and happy to not talk about it at all to sell shit in the flyover country.

Posted by Ballard Guy | June 29, 2008 7:20 PM
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Gay pride parade was a total bore. Fremont, much much better.

Posted by Exactly | June 29, 2008 9:01 PM
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I'll take naked cyclists over a bunch of butched-out fags/dykes in convertibles any day.

Fremont, FTW.

Posted by I'm a Nuclear Bomb | June 29, 2008 9:38 PM
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Jesus Crist should die for our sins...

Posted by michael strangeways | June 30, 2008 10:21 AM
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on a serious note, the Solstice Parade IS more entertaining than the Pride Parade but has no political meaning, other than a general liberal, hippy consiousness. I wish people would get together and make some Solstice type floats for Pride.

BUT, has anyone else noticied that Solstice trots out a lot of the same old stuff year after year? Solstice Parade 2008 isn't that much different than Solstice Parade 2004...

Posted by michael strangeways | June 30, 2008 10:27 AM
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@28: Whereas this year's truck full of guys shaking it to European hard house is unprecedented and groundbreaking!

Posted by Brian | June 30, 2008 11:02 AM
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Is it some kind of rule in (North) American culture that any time there are two vaguely similar events (two parades, two festivals, whatever) close in time, they must be set up as a dichotomy, as opposing events?

"How can you like Event A? Event B clearly kicked its ass."

"Everyone knows Event B is a waste of time, celebrated only by Easily Marginalized Subculture X. Easily Marginalized Subculture Y has suffered more, and therefore Event A is inherently superior."

Fawwwwwwwk.

Posted by Breklor | June 30, 2008 12:05 PM
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What the letter writer fails to grasp is that tens of thousands of people turning out to watch gay dads with strollers, inclusive religious communities, LGBT military vets, and affinity groups from public agencies is still profoundly radical for the LGBT community -- even if we live in the "Soviet of Seattle."

A bunch of aging hippies and radical leftists marching for love and progressive values is perhaps more relevant under our current fucked up conservative Bush regime, but is hardly radical by any stretch of the imagination -- and not in a state dominated by the Democratic Party.

Posted by Mickymse | June 30, 2008 2:16 PM

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