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Naw, you're still crazy. Maybe not about the weather, but still crazy.

Posted by Fifty-Two-Eighty | June 11, 2008 9:05 AM
2

This kind of weather makes me want to get violent or get drunk.

Posted by Bellevue Ave | June 11, 2008 9:05 AM
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You're not crazy. I'm a native and I hit my shitty weather limit a few weeks back.

Posted by Robin Sparkles | June 11, 2008 9:08 AM
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I have a razor.

Posted by Mr. Poe | June 11, 2008 9:16 AM
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It's also warmer in International Falls, Minnesota, pretty consistently the coldest city on the weathermap in Minnesota.

This fucking sucks.

Posted by povertyrich | June 11, 2008 9:20 AM
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Anyone that says it's always like this in June has no idea what he's talking about; I don't care how long he's lived here.

Posted by Levislade | June 11, 2008 9:26 AM
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You should ask the people who think this is "normal" what they think of gobal warming or creationism being taught in schools...I think the answers would be interesting.

Face it, those people who claim to be natives are in denial. I have been in Seattle since 1995 and in Washington State since 1990 and this weather is royally fucked up this month. But maybe I can go snowboarding on my Birthday in July. Hey! How about a ski party for Gay Pride!?!?!?!

Posted by Cato the Younger Younger | June 11, 2008 9:29 AM
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Everyone I know is complaining... except me, because it's 11am here and 78. I just HAD to brag, one last time.

Posted by catnextdoor | June 11, 2008 9:31 AM
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It's lovely in Baltimore now that the humidity broke! Loverly.

Hold on, Dan. Lovely days in MI are fast approaching.

Posted by Balt-O-Matt | June 11, 2008 9:34 AM
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I've noticed a general souring of people's moods over the last week or so.

As for me, I've just been drinking heavily.

Posted by Hernandez | June 11, 2008 9:34 AM
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So this is global WARMING????

Posted by You_Gotta_Be_Kidding_Me | June 11, 2008 9:36 AM
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I'm glad I gave up and moved to Palm Springs. 30 years in Washington and 2006/2007/2008 was that last fucking straw.

Posted by Soupytwist | June 11, 2008 9:37 AM
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I think Dan Savage is looking for reasons to move to greener pastures, or a least warmer ones. I moved to Seattle the same year as Dan and I will take 55 in June over 99 in June.

Posted by Rod Schepper | June 11, 2008 9:38 AM
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Dan, I was lecturing too and I've only been here 6 years. And I agree with @13.

Posted by Mike of Renton | June 11, 2008 9:46 AM
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My dad, who has lived 60 years in Washington, just mentioned that he might move elsewhere if this becomes a pattern for our summers. Even for native Washingtonians this really sucks. It's definitely getting to me.

Posted by Gabriel | June 11, 2008 10:08 AM
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After having sun 320+ days of the year, it would be virtually impossible to get me to move back to Seattle. It would take a LOT of money and a LOT of sex. But Seattle is a pretty cool city, and I dont blame anyone for living there... you're still crazy though.

Posted by catnextdoor | June 11, 2008 10:08 AM
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I never claimed this was normal. However, I remember last June very well and I still prefer 50 and rainy to 90 and sunny. Especially since this time last year all the windows in my apartment building were covered with plastic sheeting for a week while they painted the siding. It was the hottest week of the month.

Posted by Greg | June 11, 2008 10:09 AM
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I heard Cliff Mass, a professor from Vancouver Canada regularly on KUOW and KIRO, on the radio this morning. Coldest spring since 1917. So what, we have the shittiest weather in the world now?

Posted by jessica Knapp | June 11, 2008 10:09 AM
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I looked at a weather forecast temperature map of the US for this week and it's very strange. For some reason this sideways-F shaped section of the Northwest is really cold. Eastern WA gets some heat, but western WA, northern OR, most of ID, western MT down to northwestern WY is the coldest area in the lower 48.

Seriously, wtf? Maine is in the mid 70s. MAINE. The rest of the country is practically having a heat wave. Us not so much!

This weekend we are apparently penciled in for the low 70s. Whoo hoo!

Posted by K | June 11, 2008 10:10 AM
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It could be worse. You could be alone in a capsule orbiting a cold star in the farthest reaches of space.

Posted by Gurldoggie | June 11, 2008 10:26 AM
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Bullshit article.

It says "coldest start to month in history" in the sub-heading but offers no evidence for that assertion. The graph of daily highs and lows says "one of the coldest starts". That's not the same thing.

And it's lower highs, not lower average or lower lows. It isn't the "coldest spring since 1917"; it's the spring since 1917 with the fewest 60+ days.

If you look at the list of lowest daily highs since 1948, you see two in the 1950s, three in the 1960s, one in the 70s, two in the 80s, none in the 90s, and two in the 00s, including June 5th of this year. If you look at the list of lowest daily lows for June since 1948, we're nowhere near it; in 1952 it got down to 38, fer cryin' out loud.

Sure, it's a little colder than normal. Big deal.

Posted by Fnarf | June 11, 2008 10:27 AM
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So, if, as the forecast seems to indicate, the warming trend we're about to see continues, and our AVERAGE temp for June gets back to normal - will all you you wussies STILL be BITCHING about how COLD it was this month?

And if'n y'all would bother to peruse the charts that accompany that article, you'd clearly see we've had individual days in early June with high temps several degrees colder than what we've experienced so far this month, and overnight lows waaaaay lower (June 1952 must have been a real doozie).

Just remember kids, 11 days does not a month make; we've still got 20 days to go. And if you still want to grouse, well, 1993 "the year without a summer" wasn't THAT long ago, either.

Posted by COMTE | June 11, 2008 10:28 AM
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@18: He's at the UW. I went to a lecture of his a year ago, and what he said then was that according to models he's seen and worked on, the effects of global warming in Puget Sound will be a tendency towards longer, rainier springs and hotter, drier falls, with a drastic reduction in mountain snowpack during the summer.

Posted by Greg | June 11, 2008 10:30 AM
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#11, no.

Posted by w7ngman | June 11, 2008 10:30 AM
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@11: Climatologists have said repeatedly that our region may not see dramatically increased warming, but it will see more unstable and unpredictable weather. Oh, look, that's exactly what we have.

Global warming also refers to a GLOBAL AVERAGE. It may warm a couple of degrees over fifty years here, but it's warming 10 degrees at the poles.

Thank you for paying the slightest bit attention to news and current events, and made any kind of attempt to satisfy your own curiosity. No, you'd rather just repeat the same stupid phrase because you think you're making a funny point. You're not.

Posted by Emily | June 11, 2008 10:32 AM
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Damn, Fnarf - that almost called for a "jinx!"

Posted by COMTE | June 11, 2008 10:36 AM
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Seattleites are the biggest weather wimps in the country. Oooooooooooo it's cold and rainy, or oooooooooooo it's too hot when it gets above 85. Fuck all of you.

Posted by Chalupa | June 11, 2008 10:47 AM
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It was 91F here on Wednesday, and hot as heck as I stumbled to the gastrointestinal doctor to cure my raging stomach virus. I'd take 58F over this heat... just for a day or two.

Posted by brappy | June 11, 2008 10:47 AM
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fnarf is a die hard northwesterner, but i know deep down this weather is getting to him too, i bet he is thinking like the rest of us, " this shit needs to stop."

Posted by SeMe | June 11, 2008 10:48 AM
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You mean "non-native Seattleites", right Chalupa?

Posted by COMTE | June 11, 2008 10:58 AM
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It may be colder than Siberia, but it colder than Cape Horn? or Antarctica?

Posted by mackro mackro | June 11, 2008 11:00 AM
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It will stop. It always does.

Posted by Fnarf | June 11, 2008 11:00 AM
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You_Gotta_Be_Kidding_Me doesn't think he's making a funny point, he thinks he's just making a point.

Posted by w7ngman | June 11, 2008 11:03 AM
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OH, and Dan -- you say you wish the pass would reopen for snowboarding, but there's a picture of a guy snowboarding at the pass on Tuesday right there in the P-I article.

Posted by Fnarf | June 11, 2008 11:33 AM
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It may be warmer in Tomsk, but at any moment, hummingbird-sized mosquitoes will flood the city, as they do in all Siberian cities in the summer, to drain the blood of anyone unfortunate enough to be outside. I'd take Junuary in Seattle any day over friggin' Tomsk.

Posted by rb | June 11, 2008 12:04 PM
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Well, my apologies for passing on bad information. Thanks for correcting me.

And call me a whiner if you want, but I think this weather fucking blows.

Posted by jessica Knapp | June 11, 2008 12:10 PM
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Alpental was open every weekend till Memorial Day.

Other than that, Earn Your Turns. Just don't try it in a blizzard at Camp Muir.

Posted by max solomon | June 11, 2008 12:22 PM
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my beef , beyond the general unpleasantness of having to be outdoors in this weather,is people are stinkier in this weather. i haven't had a single bus ride since the last fully sunny day where there wasn't somebody on the bus that reeked of a combination of musty feet, corn chips, and mold. it's smells as if people are being eaten away at the base by termites.i first thought it was their clothes, stale cigarette smell lingers like that and it would help if folks had their outer winter garments cleaned more than once a year. but i'm beginning to notice the odor in all sorts of places, while grocery shopping, standing in line at the bank or coffee shops ( and not starbucks neither..i noticed it while waiting for a hot mocha at verite in ballard ). now i wonder if it's coming from peoples skin.
i'm also wanting to be stoned ALL the time. when it's even partly sunny, i'm more apt to be happier sober.
oh.. and i'm tired of drinking hot mochas. last week i ordered a hot toddy on two different occasions. first time in my 30 year residency i've ordered a hot toddy past march.

Posted by reverend dr dj riz | June 11, 2008 1:03 PM

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