Comments on I Still Hate Safari

way to stick it to the man, paul.

Hating Safari is incorrect.

Now with more SLOW!

That's what themes are for, though. One easy download and it looks much better already.

I'll get to play with FireFox more extensively when I get home.

OmniWeb is the best.

Just so everyone is set straight on that, you know.

;-)

So, you hate Safari because of how it looks?

Is there a theme that makes firefox 3.0 look like firefox 2.0? The pull down address bar in version 3 (with both the title of the webpage as well as the address) takes up too much space and looks like it's built for the internet-inept.

And it does look rather mac-ish. Eeew.

Opera is the best. Especialy for browsing porn.

good because i hate firefox.

Why the Safari hate?

You hate Safari because of the way it looks? Since Firefox 3 is apparently too "Safari-like" for your tastes, what are you left with? Opera (ha)? IE (enjoy the glossy buttons)?

I'm a happy FF3 and Safari user, and while FF3 is a nice product, I'll take Safari any day. The advances being made by the Webkit product are phenomenal and give hope to the developers still writing special cases for IE 6. Client-side databases, advanced CSS3 selectors, a phenomenally fast Javascript engine, full Acid 3 compliance, a good debugger and profiler, the list goes on.

Firefox 3 has some nice advances with its support of Javascript list comprehensions and generators, but I feel that Webkit is going to come out the winner in the end.

BTW it's quickly becoming the engine of choice for cell phones. Android incorporates it, so you'll likely be seeing it in places other than on your desktop (and, if you can imagine this, the engine has nothing to do with the way it looks, so it might not look "like Safari").

If you have more concern about the way your UA chrome looks than you do for how your webpage is being RUINED by fucking IdentityGuard ads, your priorities are in the wrong place.

@3 - Hate all you want, but FF3 is tons faster than FF2 or just about any browser than Safari. Even there, the difference isn't really noticeable. And I have to say that the unfortunately named "Awesome Bar" has won me over (provided you don't surf for porn a lot on your shared machine...)

There's an extension called "Oldbar" that brings back the old, not-as-awesome location bar.

@12 that's what Ctrl+Shift+Del is for (or "Clear Private Data" on the Tools menu).

Porn? What porn? I don't surf for porn on this computer? See? Look at the Awesome Bar!

You're a fucking dork Jason Petersen. Good luck getting some tang with your extensive knowlege of Acid 3 compliance.

Dude, Tang is easy to come by. They have it at every grocery store I've ever been to.

The only reason I still use Safari is because LineOut hates Firefox. Not SLOG, just LineOut- it makes my Firefox browser freeze up all the time.

No SLOG is slow too.

I'll upgrade tonight.

Does Safari still lack the ability to warn you about phishing?

Downloaded. Installed. Works fine. Much faster.

Recommended customizations for firefox:
+ flashblock - prevent flash from running until you click it
+ adblock plus - remove most ads from the web
+ drag the tool icons, menu and awesomebar to fit on one line

Stuff in about:config
+ Go back to oldschool close buttons
+ Set minimum tab width to zero
+ Disable anything in JavaScript that lets windows behave abnormally

I can open up 40+ tabs of bands' profiles, listen to them one by one, sort the tabs by priority, make maps and hit the road. I really couldn't ask for much more from a browser on a 5 year old computer.

Firefox 3 looks great on the PC. On the mac it's too much brushed-metal for me. I vastly prefer the PC version.

looks too much like safari? you mean with it's clean, minimal chrome and UI and standards-compliant renderer? yeah, boo apple!

I have been using Firefox 3 for weeks and I have been loving it. As a Mac user I have never liked Safari (I have never been able to figure out how to customize it). But I do use Safari for pages that don't open properly in Firefox (however it is the web page designers fault and not the browsers.)

Firefox 3 has so many useful add-ons I seem to add more everyday (I know, it probably slows it down).

The new Firefox is still better that the latest Internet Explorer that I have to use at work. Luckily, my co-workers don't seem to mind when I growl.

As long as we were on the topic, Safari has seemed to be much more prone to freezeups than the old Firefox I have on my work computer (aka PC). Slog and many other Stranger pages wound up as frozen Safari windows, although the newest update of Safari has helped.

Did recently find out that Firefox is setup on the PC to not run totally in the background when minimized, and thus can rob performance from a not totally state of the art PC. That is frustrating, but it's still more reliable the IE...or maybe I just don't have it setup right.