So don't live in fucking Seattle. Geez, the whole Goddamned country knows that the weather there sucks. (78 and sunny here, BTW.)

remember february

98 and mind-numbingly humid here in Boston today.

Wanna trade?

Happy Junuary!

You know what's getting to me? Your lazy posting today.

It's crazy hot in Toronto (40C with humidity) AND we're due for severe thunderstorms, with some areas on a tornado watch. Awesome!

I live in Seattle and can't stand this fucking weather. Why do I live here? Because of my job and my career. I can't stand the weather in Seattle in May and June because it's fucking depressing.

Oh and I'd like to hear from the people in Seattle that loves temperatures in the 50s in June in this city. I'm sure it's the same group of people that hate it when it's over 75 degrees in Seattle.

I am going to die.
http://www.weather.com/outlook/recreation/boatandbeach/tenday/USCA0087?from=search_10day

Yes, Dan sounds like he is on the rag. BUT the NWS is reporting that Seattle has been around 10 to 15 degrees BELOW normal for the last couple of months. We are supposed to have rain but it should be warmer than what it is.

Just pray it does not rain on our parade: it almost did last year and was FUCKING COLD!!!!

Yeah, 'cause the weather is sooo much better in practically every other part of the country right now.

Sure it's gray and drizzly here. But at least we don't have to worry about tornadoes, flash floods, suffocating humidity, or roasting heat.

Bitch all you want, but things could be worse. A LOT worse.

I moved here from Phoenix and am damn glad it's not 103. Hell, I'm happy it's not 83.

That is one reason I haven't made any real attempts to leave this shithole for the NW. I love the sun, and I understand "The Sun" is a totally foreign concept most of the year there.

I don't think the sun set at all this weekend. That's how sunny it was.

Other reasons: I'm not filthy rich, I have no discernable job skillz, I don't hate my family enough to put 5000 miles between us.

The sun shines out my bum. It's just that I'm in the middle of a good book, and haven't stood for two weeks.

Red Leader, Red Leader, stay on target...

I hope the shittiest weather of the year reigns down on the pride parade. I'm not joking.

This weather is the Seattle Mariners of weather. SUCKS.

btw -the humidity here is BRUTAL.

Let it stay gray. More suicides = cheaper rents.

Mr Poe: I know you love to rile people up, but your anti-pride screeds are getting old. Just sayin.

It's no better in Chicago. In the six months I've lived here I can count truly nice days on one hand. It's been alternating between pouring rain and humidity that makes you want to stay inside and take a nap. I live in the student ghetto in Hyde Park, where the heat is good in winter, but in summer we have to rely on open windows and a breeze. Be grateful you have central air.

COMTE @ 10, no, you have to worry about earthquakes and tsunamis. The stuff you listed is chicken scratch in comparison. Shoulda included hurricanes on your list, though.

The 50’s and gray drizz is waaay better then floods and 3 digit temps other parts of the USA is getting’!

Dan Im with u. Philly summers suck, but this is too much. Ive been here 14 years and its never been this bad in June. and i know u native seattle folk ( all 3 of u) agree. its never been this gloomy.

God, Poe, no fucking kidding. You know that scene in "The Day After Tomorrow" where people are bludgeoned with huge hailstones?

That's the kind of shit I'm hoping for...a supercell of that shit goes over the city and the floats are just mounds of pulped human, spangles, and the sound of a skipping Whitney Houston record.

Bring it.

Dan, get a halogen lamp and sit under it for half an hour in the mornings or evenings.

#7: Yes, I'm perfectly content to see mid-50s and cloudy in June, and I also hate when it gets above 75. So you're correct there. Your point?

Getting old? The whole two posts where I've listed it?

go wreck your scooter in a fucking puddle comte.

I cant wait to move back to the bay.

This isn't all that different from a typical June. We always have a false spring, then a month of drizzle, then the nicest Julys and Augusts and Septembers in the country.

I feel you too, Dan. Here I was scoffing at all the wussy Californians moaning about the lack of sun, and now I'm the whiner. Where the fuck is the few weeks of sunshine that make the months and months of misery bearable?

I can't wait to move period. Fuck this place.

Now, D - you've been in Seattle way too long to be doing this to yourself.

The 50’s and gray drizz is waaay better then floods and 3 digit temps other parts of the USA is getting’!

Come to Boston, Dan, it's beautiful here!

3 months of greatness for 9 months of shit? fucking fuck.

I'm going to celebrate pride by going south for the weekend. As much as I love the NW, I need a little time out.

52 in Seattle, 59 in Ketchika fucking Alaska.

@19 -- Dude, "pride" gets rammed down our throats to no end every June...why can't those of us who find the entire enterprise ridiculous be able to respond?

If the boosters of "pride" wouldn't be so godawful tiresome, maybe those of us who are critics could take some time off, too.

Fucking "pride," my ass.

Yep, I'm one of those people that likes it 50F in June and hates it when it gets over 75F. I moved from Texas for exactly this sort of thing--no air conditioning needed, no worries about RUNNING OUT of drinking water, no need to water the yard to keep everything looking nice. The first five years I lived here there was a "drought"--yuck. The cool green wet we have up here is brilliant.

52 (maybe) in Seattle today, 59 in Ketchikan fucking Alaska.

@7: I'm also one of those people. I've stayed in western Washington because I like the cold and the damp and the rain.

Really, though--anyone who moved here doesn't have the right to complain about the rain. It's not as if Seattle is known for much else, so you knew exactly what you were getting into. If you're so despondent about the lack of sun, move somewhere else and take your umbrella with you.

If it makes you feel any better, San Francisco has another 3 months of mid-50's left before our 2 week summer starts.

I'm not hugely fond of the chill, but the grey is all right; too much sun makes me dizzy or sunburned. I'll take it if it means I don't have to deal with large chunks of time that are either 90-degrees-plus or below 30, like in the two cities I grew up in (Denver and DC). Temperature extremes are the worst.

This weather doesn't bother me a bit. As fnarf pointed out @28 we have nicer weather on into the fall then other places around the country do. And, the plants in my garden are very happy right now.

If it snows, now that would piss me off. Or a giant windstorm that wreaks havoc on my tender young tomato plants.

Sorry, Mr. Savage. But I'll trade the brutal-heat-and-humidity of the midwestern and southern summers I grew up with for this cloudy-and-cool-drizzle any day of the week. Ah, life is good.

I'd take 50 and raining before 90 and 50% humidity... Like we've had here in Pittsburgh.

Tiktok @ 38, Seattle folk DO need to water their lawns, they just don't do it. Wait til Labor Day and you'll see how nice those lawns are.

dougsf, the marine layer sucks no more than the cold drizzle here. and you can at least drive away from it and still enjoy good things down the peninsula or up in marin or across the bay.

I propose a rename for the month. Henceforth we shall refer to this month as Jun-uary.

Dan bitching about the weather is WAY more enjoyable than anything charles writes. Keep it up, Dan!

For those of us who have lived in Seattle for more than a year we all know the weather here sucks. It sucks it always has and it always will. We complain every year that this year is worse than the last or even the year before that and actually it was just as crappy last year even the year before that. We have a crappy weather system we always have and most likely always will. Over all the weather is not that bad it is the mindless bitching and moaning about the same old shit that is not going to change. So shut up about the weather. Shut up, Shut up, Shut up.

I would gladly welcome rain and 50 degrees here in the L A area. We are in the mid-90's today & have been in the midst of a perpetual acrid drought for the last 6 years or so, which our Viennese Republican cyborg governor finally acknowledged last week.

Contrary to what doug is saying, it's fuckingly, beautifully sunny here in The City. At least, it has been for the last three days. Heck, I went to the beach yesterday to cool off!

You're lucky. I was at an Agility trial this weekend in the Columbus, OH area (dog agility, where they go over obstacles, you know) and it was in the 90's and humid both days, overcast on Saturday (bearable) and sunny on Sunday (unbearable). I would rather run in the rain. My heavy-coated black dog would ALSO rather run in the rain.

Uh, @48: It's been done. Way back at comment 4.

You can't run out of the ability to wait a little longer in June here.

also, arent people doing for the weather what they do for everything else in seattle?

"it could be worse in another city in the country" well congrats seattle, you're fucking better than some places in the country. you've cemented your stranglehold on middlebrow mediocre comparisons.

This weather makes us all understand the high suicide rate. I just want like 1 fucking week of sun.

But it won't happen for another month. I know and realize where I live, but yes Dan I agree. I am getting crankier everyday.

Miss Dan - I hear you on this one. The weather fucking sucks. I'm terrified that we're only going to get a couple of really hot sunny weeks and then Autumn will take over. I'm convinced that it's fucking with my sex drive.

I totally agree with Dan. This shit is driving me nuts. And we're not whining. The real whiners are people who can't handle temperature variances wider than 10 degrees (and say things like "too much sun makes me dizzy or sunburned").

We all know hot weather doesn't reach Seattle until July. But is 70 degrees really so much to ask? C'mon, God! Quit being such a jerk!

Sounds like someone didn't remember to fly to Hawaii or Southern California for a two-week vacation in February ...

Where were y'all yesterday? I was out quasi-exercising at Discovery Park and it was gorgeous. A few clouds, but plenty of blue sky too. Guess 24 hours is too long to remember.

#52 - yeah, it's beautiful here today. Ever since my office moved to the BofA building downtown though, I've been gettin' real bitchy about the weather. Permanent 30 mph marine winds and no sun on this block gettin' me down. Although I live in the Mission, and I will say my back porch consistently has the best weather of anywhere I've ever lived. Has it been windier than normal all year or is it just me?

#47 - what kinda Seattle crazy talk is that? We don't leave our neighborhoods down here!

After about 10 years in the City, I can't decide if we have the best weather in the country, or the worst.

Dan, I was in Reno all weekend. I had to go for work, and was so looking forward to some nice weather. I got it there - beautiful blue skies, glowing sun, and 75 degrees. But Reno is one of the most depressing places ever. It has horrid casinos, cigarette smoke everywhere you go, pitiful drunks blowing their paychecks at slot machines at 3:00 on a Friday, two acres of parking surrounding each building, scary drug dealers and gang bangers on the strip, scarier groups of drunken bozos at night, zero culture, Republicans, terrible drivers (plus you have to drive everywhere), strip malls, and a dry, brown landscape. Despite the sun, I was miserable, and can tell you that I have never been happier in my entire life than when the plane touched down in our dark, gray, wet and freakin' glorious city. Maybe a trip to Nevada would help lift your spirits?

85 out here in Albuquerque... with next to no humidity it's pretty fucking perfect. No tornados, floods or any of the like here either. Awesome! Spring vacation to ABQ Dan!

I agree with 44. It may be gray out here but it never gets really cold or really hot. Plus, no bugs—ever—and coming from the South, that was a real bonus for me. Finally, if the weather was too good we'd have the same problem the Bay Area has: an astronomical cost of living.

Wow, weird it's like the weather heard all of you, the sun is beaming light into my office window as I type this.

@25, @40. I enjoy wearing nice clothes. colorful clothes, short sleeve shirts, nice shoes. June - August are the months you like to wear less clothes. I've been here for 11 years now. I enjoy surprises like two years ago when June was warm as hell and pride in Seattle was the sunniest and warmest pride that I've ever seen here.I'd like to see three months of sunny weather to counter the 9 months of depressing gray.

Btw, my gripe with the Pride committee is that they fucking plan pride the same weekend as SF, NYC, Toronto, and Chicago. I wonder when the committee will get it through their fucking heads that

1)it sucks, but I just think on how miserable I was in the midwest when it was 95 degrees with 95% humidity and I can soldier on. Plus, I look so much better in sweaters than shorts...

2)not much pity for Dan though; unlike the rest of us, he can afford to jump on Keck's private jet and fly off to the Stranger's secret sexy, hide-a-way in the tropics...

3)quit wishing for Pride Weekend rain!! I'm having a yard sale that weekend!!

I'm a life-long Northwesterner, but this shit gets to me, every fucking year. It's just that I also know that if I moved to a place with warmer spring and early summer weather I'd be complaining about the sweltering temperatures in July, the brownish color and lack of evergreens, the tornadoes, the bugs, whatever. As it is I complain about the two weeks of 90-plus weather we have every year in Seattle. Put me in California (excepting San Francisco and its welcoming fogs) and I'd quickly go bugfuck, and it would be even worse someplace ungodly hot (Phoenix) or humid.

@59: no, we're both whiners. You're just whining now and I'm going to whine later.

June 9, 2008: 53 (expected high of 56), drizzle
June 9, 2007: 59, rain
June 9, 2006: 64, rain
June 9, 2005: 70, clear (whoo!)
June 9, 2004: 69, rain

That's rain four out of the last five years. A few degrees colder, but nothing remarkable.

I agree with 67...the dumb fuckers need to move Pride to AUGUST like Vancouver does...not the same weekend of course; it should be staggered.

@21:

I live just over the crest of CapHill on the lake Washington side, so tsunamis be-damned; I won't get any wetter then than I am now.

As for earthquakes, well tectonic plate shifting isn't exactly "weather", so it doesn't count.

Besides, when you've lived through several volcanic eruptions, it's hard to get worked up over other geological phenomena.

people that plan pride think seattle is as big a city as SF, CHI, NYC or TOR. What a bunch of fucking dimwits.

@65. If we had the same transporation networks as in the Bay Area, that'd make the cost of living increase, as people would want to move in hopes of not wanting to use their cars. The weather here is as temperate as the weather in SF. Except we don't have the extreme micro-climates like in the Bay Area. Ex. SF - 65 degrees. Drive to San jose and it's 80 degrees.

That's one of the reasons why some city officials are dragging their heels on building a BART/SkyTrain-like system.

the transpo networks of the bay area are no better than the seattle metro area transportation. it's such a bitch to get from the peninsula to anywhere worth going to without a car.

the intercounty crap, intracounty no better than metro.

@27:

Well, I don't see anybody holding a gun to your head or anything.

When I lived in the City in the early/mid '80's, the foggy, cold, windy, gray, wet weather was a pereneal topic for kvetching from both locals and transplants alike.

And of course, if you're lucky, you might be able to afford to relocate to say, Hayward or the Castro Valley, 'cause I hear that even with a 20% drop in housing prices, San Fran is still one of the most expensive metropolitan areas in the country.

So, you know, good luck with that.

comte, i don't have a choice. it's either live here or starve. the plight of the working poor and such.

Shades of the Summer of '93...the one that made me wish I was back in Dutch Harbor. Could be worse, like 'surviving' in Sichuan or the Irrawaddy delta.

@78

I thought you were leaving for awesome reasons, like not living in Seattle anymore or not living in Seattle anymore. Or not living in Seattle anymore.

Doug,

Yes, it has been windy here. So, you work in the BofA building? I work in the BofA building! We should do lunch sometime.

poe, i was being facetious and making fun of his contention that actors don't have a choice of whether to be actors or not.

but yeah, im moving to SF because it outclasses seattle in almost every respect.

@68 -- Speaking for myself, I did not call for rain on "pride" day...i called for chunks of ice to fall from the sky, so huge that they pummel the parade participants and attendees into a primordial soup.

Please make a note of it.

It's called a La Nina year. Fnarf has it right; while it's cooler than normal this time of year, it's no wetter than normal. And even if it were warmer, it'd still be cloudy.

Dan, what the hell is wrong with your camera? Fix your color balance for godssake.

@83--Oh, well, that's completely different; never mind.

@82

Word.

It's like living inside a vegetable crisper.

i'm with you dan. fear not little bird. sun is on it's way. i think.

Chicago Weather:
January-Cold
Febuary-Fucking Cold
March-Cold with a slight chance of "Not as Cold"
April-Not as Cold with a slight chance of !?!
May-1-9th !?!
May 10-31 Warmish Hot
Jun Hot
July- Fucking Hot
August- "Why God Why" Hot
Sepember Not as Hot, with a slight chance of WTF
October- 1-21 Three weeks of Autumn
October-22-31 Rain/Cold
November-Cold
December- Very Cold
BTW our Pride parade ROCKS..It is the 2nd largest parade in the city, period!

Back in 2002 Dan wrote that it was too hot in Seattle. He wanted it to be cooler. He wrote that anyone who liked hot weather was stupid. I know he changed his mind since then, but this crappy weather is still all Dan's fault.

Back in 2002 Dan wrote that it was too hot in Seattle. He wanted it to be cooler. He wrote that anyone who liked hot weather was stupid. I know he changed his mind since then, but this crappy weather is still all Dan's fault.

You can have some of our kinetic energy it was 101 F in Baltimore today.

@70: True enough. I'll do the unthinkable and admit that you're right and I was wrong. Only about whiners, though. Friends forever!

@93: Graciousness? On my Internet? Awesome! You, my friend, are awesome.

Just saw on the King5 website that they are predicting snow on the passes. The sun beam from earlier has disappeared and the sky is back to gray and rainy. The wind is mocking me.

No, the sunbeam just moved behind my office (fortunately, I'm on the back side of the building) - it's just trying to share the sunbeamy goodness is all.

Whose turn next?

2 words Dan....REGGAE MUSIC
Helped alot when I lived in the dark in Alaska.

This is the Pacific Northwest, weather like this produced some of the Largest trees on the planet. Those trees are all gone now, but I tell myself that Temperate Rain forest country is just that, rain forest country. I wish we had some of those huge trees to remind us of what this crappy weather does for trees; makes um big and strong. Maybe we need to take a page from the first humans here and live in big long houses, dance and tell stories all night long and have fun.

Go ahead, guys. Let it all out. I'll be inside with my book, reading under the halogen lamp.

Wow. 100 comments.

Go ahead, Dan, pat yourself on the back. Isn't that what the slog is all about. It's all just clickbait. All you care about is traffic.

"Shades of the Summer of '93...the one that made me wish I was back in Dutch Harbor. "

Yeah, '93 was bad. It was one of those "Years without a Summer" we get every decade or two. And it sucked. I really, really hope that doesn't happen this year, because if Summer never really shows up it is fucking awful.

So far, though, this June is sucking way more than most. The heat keeps kicking on in our house. Normally we don't have to turn the heat on in June, even if the high temps are in the 60s. And I had to get my wool coat back out of the closet to go out in the evenings.

I saw someone wearing a knitted ski cap waking down our street yesterday.

It's not the rain that is getting me down so much as the cold. Highs in the low 50s are not June weather in Seattle. Rain, sure. A little bit cool, sure. But this is abnormal. I am a Seattle native, too -- I have seen some pretty crappy summer weather in my lifetime.

Dear cranky bitches: fuck you. The whole fucking world knows that Seattle's rainy, it's like our fucking trademark. JUNE IS ALWAYS FUCKING LIKE THIS, I've lived here for 27 years, and it's ALWAYS FUCKING LIKE THIS. Go buy a full-spectrum bulb and turn it on next to your computer so you get some good light while you bitch about everything and everyone related to Seattle. If that doesn't work, leave.

I personally am enjoying the wierd mix of super-windy and bright cloudy sky at the moment. Seattle's weather is awesome, and obviously it weeds out the weak.

That's some mighty nice looking triplex in that picture....

Not true, Dr. Zaius. I don't just care about comments. If I wanted to do some real clickbait, I'd write a post complaining about the three folks that needed the access ramp to get on to the bus today. My 10 minute bus ride took 20. One person was in a wheelchair, and that's cool. The other two had, it appeared, drank themselves into disability. Not cool.

And you can never really tell what will take off in comments. But thank you for doing your part, Doc.

I'm having trouble picturing Dan Savage grooving to reggae.

Well, Jessica, I think the one who is breaking out the "fuck you" and the all-caps is probably more likely to be a cranky bitch. Just sayin'.

June is not always like this, though it is often cloudy and cool. But this is colder. A little Googling shows the stats to prove it. For example, the Times posted the other day:

59.2: Average temperature for the first week of June for the past 60 years

52.5: Average temperature for the first week of June 2008

That's a relatively significant difference in that for many of us it means the difference between having to heat our homes with outrageously expensive fuel this month, or not.

People who like this are fucking crazy. Just watched a Jeff Renner whom said this was the worst weather in this area since 1894. But I'll not complain, just go turn the heat up turn the lights back on.

I'm a cranky bitch because every year this shit happens, yet none of those doing the original bitching move.

And, in the words of my mother, "put on a sweater."

God, I really am bitchy today. To quote Mr. Poe, "I sorryz."

Worst spring in 30 years according to my Seattle buddy, I don't know I've only lived in this claustrophobic gray mushroom shit cloud weather for a year and it's horrifying.

Diss Spokane all you want but the summers there are real summers and I'd take any methed out old toothless Outlaw Motorcycle Gangster Spokanite backing me up in a barfight to one of you despondent whiny heroin craving rain junkies in a sucker punch second.

I've been cranky for a month now. I am not sorryz.

They just said on KIRO that the Weather Service has confirmed that the first week of June is in fact the coldest first week of June *ever.* So those who are complaining have a perfectly good reason to. "Every year this shit happens" is incorrect.

They also said it was likely that today would break a record for lowest high temp on this date.

31 (celsius) but feels like 41 here in Toronto Ontario. BLEAH. I miss San Francisco a lot.

@110 I grew up just south in Moscow... best. fucking. climate. ever.

Especially since I've spent the last 20 yrs in MN. Same seasonal variation as ID, just a little more extreme.

i miss that weather so much right now as i melt beneath the heat and humidity of a 4 day heat wave of 90 + temps and humidity. i'd be there with the rest of you if i hadn't developed a neurological disease and had to move home. do yourselves a favor - take lots of vitamin D. like 4000 iu (yes thousand) a day and get yourself a sun lamp to sit under.

Just wanted to send good vibes and respect up to you guys... i'm a total wuss californian who lived in vancouver for 2 years, oregon for one, vancouver for another, finally freaked out and came the fuck home to california where i belong. i couldn't take the rain... it was beautiful for the first year i was there, i love the people in the northwest and the giant trees, but i just couldn't do the rain. got so depressed... much respect (and a little envy) to you guys who can handle it

I'm pretty happy with all this. It's always nice to see the sun once in a while, but I don't really miss it. And anywhere in the 55-75 range is just fine. I haven't had my heat on since early April. Overall, I miss snow about as much as I miss sun, which is not that much. This is only my third spring out here, but obviously I should stay...Seattle has the best weather in the world, as far as I'm concerned.

Well, we just got our power on after it was out for 4 hours (because of a windstorm... in June! WTF!), and it is in the 40s outside... so it is freaking cold in here now. Those who like this kind of weather are nuts. Fine, you don't like it hot. But is it really so bad to have it be warm and comfortable?

So I thought we were in the midst of global warming. Then WHY the FUCK is it currently 46 degrees out? Yeah Dan, for once I am with you. Cranky as hell about this fucking weather.

Then again, at least I don't have to worry about trying to find the money for air conditioning like my friend in PA.

And now snow! Dan get to a tanning salon asap! We need you.

@97

Shhiiiiitt, is that why the Mountain always plays Bob Marley? I've always wondered.

Doesn't work for me.

I don't really mind the drizzle, but I'd like to reclaim those 15 degrees that we're missing. 70 and partly cloudy is my heaven.

I am also "one of those people". I lived in Minneapolis till I was nine. I remember summers there well. We'd go to bed naked, with just a sheet for a cover and keep a hairbrush handy to scratch at our bloody mosquito bites. Sweatin' all night. No one but the rich folk had air conditioning then. Moving here was nirvana! I love these gray, cool days. It's cosy! Go to the coffee shop. Or curl up with a good book. Doing housework without the sweat pouring down. This is heaven!