Slog - Comments on Headline of the Day

Comment by John McCain

John McCain — Mon, 16 Jun 2008 13:03:27 -0800

Beep beep! Out of my way presumptive nominee!

Comment by whatevernevermind

whatevernevermind — Mon, 16 Jun 2008 13:06:43 -0800

How dare you sexistly dismiss the psychopathic old broads for Hillary!

Comment by Cato the Younger Younger

Cato the Younger Younger — Mon, 16 Jun 2008 13:07:47 -0800

GORE to endorse Obama today! He is to ask all of us to do whatever we can to make sure he wins. I e-mailed the site and said that if Gore wanted to be VP that would be VERY helpful. (I want to watch Gore and Bobby Jindal debate this fall really really badly!)

Comment by Jason

Jason — Mon, 16 Jun 2008 13:11:09 -0800

Also, am I not right in that women under-45 went for Obama 2 to 1? And that black women went for Obama at the rate of like 7 to 1?

The Baby Boomer generation is big (the "boom" is there for a reason) and the fact is that a majority of Baby Boomer White and Latino women prefered Hillary Clinton. She didn't win every female demographic. Far from it.

The media's broad brush of "women preferring Clinton" really bothered me. They never said "men prefer Obama" merely because he scored higher among one generational demographic.

Comment by Vince

Vince — Mon, 16 Jun 2008 13:15:47 -0800

I always thought they were Republican operatives anyway. I mean, what self respecting woman is going to vote for a party that wants to make them second class citizens based on bullshit religion?

Comment by elenchos

elenchos — Mon, 16 Jun 2008 13:21:32 -0800

No, Rich is wrong about Obama doing better with women than either Gore or Kerry did. The key is to incorporate both kinds of facts, the true and the not true. I forget how this story gets told. Susan? Susan Hu? Or PC. Whatever. Susan will explain it for us, won't you?

Comment by umvue

umvue — Mon, 16 Jun 2008 13:21:44 -0800

I'll never forget how CLINTON DESTROYED THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY. What was the bitch thinking by staying in the race so long, leaving us only the rest of June, July, August, September, and October to inform potential voters that there's another guy, Barack Obama, running for president?

Comment by Timothy

Timothy — Mon, 16 Jun 2008 13:22:32 -0800

Amen, Dan.

Comment by PC

PC — Mon, 16 Jun 2008 13:34:50 -0800

Yes, but didn't Slog give a few of those women a lot of space recently?

There is a potential for significant fall off in HRC voters not voting for Obama.
The vast majority will, of course, vote for Obama and will not fall off. But wheen you can win or lose a swing state by 527 votes or 4,000 votes or so, it really matters if the HRC fall off is 12% (lots) or 5% (normal, there's always some fall off).

Women are 54% of all voters and this fall off factor could easily end up being a few points in the fall election, more than enough to swing several states.

It's one of many things that can be the margin in a close election.

Comment by Will in Seattle

Will in Seattle — Mon, 16 Jun 2008 13:38:13 -0800

Reality: Most women support Obama.

Fake News Reality: Women support Clinton.

Real voters make the choice, not fake voters.

Well, unless you use electronic voting ...

Comment by elenchos

elenchos — Mon, 16 Jun 2008 13:39:02 -0800

Thx Suz. Knew you could.

Comment by cochise.

cochise. — Mon, 16 Jun 2008 13:47:37 -0800

@6 get it right, it's Susan Hudgens - Not Hu. egg.

Comment by Janey

Janey — Mon, 16 Jun 2008 13:49:01 -0800

Obama will probably lose out on two key constituencies that Clinton would have brought to the table;

1. Republican/Independent women crossover voters
2. Latino Voters (esp the many who voted for Bush).

Those were 2 key voting blocks that Clinton could have delivered. This should not be a big surprise to anyone who pays the least bit of attention to the 'contest' of running for President..

For those who place their support based on 'elect-ability' issues they have calculated that Obama will bring urban, young progressive voters and black voters out in greater numbers than we have ever seen.

This country is pretty well split and a lot of the 'contest for president' comes down to playing at the margins.

I do beleive that vast numbers of young, urbanites and blacks will actually turn out in droves because they are inspired by Obama. And, I agree that dawdering old flippy floppy McCain is a pretty lousy comparison.

Comment by Miles

Miles — Mon, 16 Jun 2008 13:58:13 -0800

No, Janey. Obama has got women as everyone has been saying and he's got Latinos by a twenty point margin (or is it thirty? I can't remember).

Comment by Dan Savage

Dan Savage — Mon, 16 Jun 2008 14:28:11 -0800

@9...

"let's" = "let us."

Thank you for playing Slog.

Comment by Catalina Vel-DuRay

Catalina Vel-DuRay — Mon, 16 Jun 2008 14:38:59 -0800

I think there needs to be some coverage of women for Obama after the rather large splash Harriet Christian made. That lady was pure showbiz - as in amateur night at the old Foxxes ;-)

Comment by Will in Seattle

Will in Seattle — Mon, 16 Jun 2008 14:57:36 -0800

@13 - nope, not according to polls (including right-wing ones)

Comment by josh bomb

josh bomb — Mon, 16 Jun 2008 16:16:38 -0800

see, i was confused, i was CERTAIN the headline of the day was "Yankees' Wang to be on crutches for at least 6 weeks".

Comment by Spelurs Be Us

Spelurs Be Us — Mon, 16 Jun 2008 16:22:08 -0800

No, it was supposed to be Al Gore Endorses Tiger Woods.

Comment by michael strangeways

michael strangeways — Mon, 16 Jun 2008 16:37:03 -0800

WOW! What a politically brave move for Al Gore to make!

In the same press release, he endorsed "No Country for Old Men" to win the Oscar...

Comment by CP

CP — Mon, 16 Jun 2008 16:38:31 -0800

Vince @5:
Here's a dispatch from deep in Red State land: bullshit religions are approx. 50% women. Many of them believe all sorts of things, including, "I don't think a woman should be president."

Josh Bomb @18, thanks for going blue first.

I thought I was going to have to do it, by pointing out to Dan that he posted that headline but failed to make a joke about pegging.

Comment by Sirkowski

Sirkowski — Mon, 16 Jun 2008 20:10:57 -0800

PLEASE VOTE FOR ME YOU CUNTS!
- John McCain

Comment by clintonsamry

clintonsamry — Mon, 16 Jun 2008 20:45:30 -0800

We will fuking re-defeat NO-Bama in November