Is that anything like "as a lifelong Federal Way resident" ?

Hey, I'm a third-generation Washingtonian. I'm gonna try that sometime.

nativism is pretty pathetic and I don't understand how quite a few people here can be nativist at the region or state level while decrying that kind of crap at the federal level.

I didn't click on the link yet, but I'm gonna add "especially from a Blethen".

You're just jealous.

Jesus do you folks over at the Stranger have a huge hard-on for the Times & PI. It's all you seem to blab about these days.

@5, as a third-generation native Washingtonian, I agree.

As a fifth generation Washingtonian I pull rank on that asshole and say nativism needs to die a quick death.

Nativism? What? The article was about preserving Puget Sound, people. Get a friggin' clue. You think that's a bad thing?

What Fnarf said. It's not as if the article says 'As a third-generation Washingtonian, I think we should round up outtatowners and tie 'em to trees.' It's said in the context of having grown up playing and living on the Sound, developing an attachment with it. That's it. Fucking relax.

As a fifth generation Washingtonian, I agree that most of these newcomer families spew bullshit.

On the other hand, I do wish all the newcomers would stop blaming "Seattle" people for the ills of the area, when most of the people are from somewhere else. Whether it's "Seattle" drivers, or "Seattle" nice, or "Seattle" passive-aggressiveness (does anyone who uses that term even know what it is?), or "Seattle" NIMBY-ism. Seattle-ites didn't invent any of this shit. It's been imported, just like it has been everywhere else. Trying to blame any bullshit on a locality is stupid.

As to the content of the Jay Manning op-ed, he fucking rocks. The perfect Ecology director for the shit we're up against, with the Sound, the disappearing native species, cutting through corporate obstructionism, doing it as leanly as possible with the budget cuts on the way. A decent guy.

fnarf, get fucking tangential for once in your life.

I've gone off on more tangents than you've had hot dinners, Belv.

If Jay Manning and Chris Gregoire really cared about Puget Sound, they would block the new industrial barge loading facility for Glacier Northwest's sand and gravel mine on Maury Island.

It's a shame Dan is so upset that ECB is getting all the PI accolades today ...

As a fourth-generation Washingtonian...I don't read those papers, so I don't have an opinion on this. Also, King Rat@11 is right.

Why would anyone bother to read an opinion piece in the Times??

@11 -- I totally agree with you that it's not the locals (whatever that means); but the observation that Seattlites are bad drivers, are passive-aggressive, and have stronger NIMBY tendencies is completely accurate, whether it's b/c of the locals, the transplants or a unique amalgamation of both.

In a completely scientific study, I drove in Denver, Pittsburgh, Toronto, Las Vegas, San Francisco, Miami, Atlanta, and New Orleans (pre-Katrina). The drivers sucked in every single on of those cities.

Three generations? Five generations? That's not tied to the land, that's still a transplant? I have ancestral ties to the West Coast that date back 10,000 years or more. Yet every time I bring that up, especially in the context of making an argument people either: (a) tell me that times have changed, (b)tell me that their great great great grandmother was a Cherokee princess or (c) talk about something ridiculously unrelated, like casinos.

Three generations, five generations, who cares, you're not really Native!