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<title>Slog - Comments on Antarctic Winters Not So Wintery Anymore</title>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/06/antarctic_winters_not_so_wintery_anymore</link>
<description>From the ominously titled European Space Agency press release, Even the Antarctic winter cannot protect Wilkins Ice Shelf: Wilkins Ice Shelf, a broad plate of floating ice south of South America on the Antarctic Peninsula, is connected to two islands, Charcot and Latady. In February 2008, an area of about 400 km² broke off from the ice shelf, narrowing the connection down to a 6 km strip; this latest event in May has further reduced the strip to just 2.7 km. This animation, comprised of images acquired by Envisat’s Advanced Synthetic Aperture Radar (ASAR) between 30 May and 9 June,...</description>
<copyright>Copyright 2008</copyright>
<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 10:46:04 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Will in Seattle</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Nuclear fission is still a dead end.</p>

<p>There are still no real solutions for the mining process, shipment, processing, and storage for 100,000 years for the spent fuel.</p>

<p>Now go away and take your CBO WHOOPS bonds with you to France!</p>]]></description>
<author>Will in Seattle</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/06/antarctic_winters_not_so_wintery_anymore#c1052379</link>
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<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 10:57:56 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by elenchos</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>I was digging around all over trying to find out what the carbon footprint of building one of these new fast reactors is.  Because nuclear plants have a huge up-front industrial cost. I sort of picture this vast spewage of carbon as we scramble to build all those plants. </p>

<p>How's that pencil out?</p>]]></description>
<author>elenchos</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/06/antarctic_winters_not_so_wintery_anymore#c1052403</link>
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<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 11:11:29 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Jonathan Golob</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Elenchos,</p>

<p>An insightful point. I'm not sure if it is known, as most of these designs aren't even at the pilot stage yet. We can make some educated guesses, however.</p>

<p>Just because they involve much less movement of fuel and waste, thanks to more efficient usage, I suspect they'll have less of a carbon impact than existing pressurized water reactors per mWh. Likewise, most of these designs are more compact, requiring less concrete (and therefore fewer carbon emissions during the setting.) By using up existing fuel stocks, another major source of carbon emissions could be reduced.</p>

<p>Relative to a new coal plant, the energy per mWh (over the lifetime of the plant) should be less. Relative to wind, geothermal or solar it's tricky. Most solar technologies are quite environmentally damaging to produce. Both wind and solar require fairly broad geographic impact. Geothermal is probably about the best, but among the least generalizable of technologies.</p>

<p>The short of it? Conservation remains the best. After that, it rapidly becomes a wash.</p>]]></description>
<author>Jonathan Golob</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/06/antarctic_winters_not_so_wintery_anymore#c1052431</link>
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<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 11:29:53 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Vince</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>If fission is a dead end then why are the Chinese and Russians spending so much money on plans to mine the moon for Helium Three? Helium Three is a clean alternative to nuclear waste and could be mined for about the cost of the Alaska pipeline in today's dollars. At least, that's what I've heard from scientists.</p>]]></description>
<author>Vince</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/06/antarctic_winters_not_so_wintery_anymore#c1052435</link>
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<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 11:33:57 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Just Sayin&apos;</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Vince@4 Oh man, that's funny stuff. Mining the moon. Begin holding your breath... now for until that happens.</p>

<p></p>

<p></p>

<p></p>

<p></p>

<p><br />
Spoiler: manned space travel is never going to happen again</p>]]></description>
<author>Just Sayin&apos;</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/06/antarctic_winters_not_so_wintery_anymore#c1052471</link>
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<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 11:53:36 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by left coast</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>I know a place where the summers aren't so summery.</p>]]></description>
<author>left coast</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/06/antarctic_winters_not_so_wintery_anymore#c1052666</link>
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<category>Science</category>
<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 13:30:36 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by nak</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>I'm inherently wary of these sorts of reports – people rush to report ice shelves collapsing and then forget to report on them refreezing.</p>

<p>Current data from the National Center for Environmental Prediction (NOAA) is suggesting the Antarctic has a HIGHER sea ice area than the 1979-2000 mean. The Arctic is trending lower than the mean and the total sea ice (Antarctic + Arctic) is almost exactly equivalent to the 1979-2000 mean. See arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosphere/ for details.</p>

<p>Does anybody have a link to a similar dataset from the Envisat ASAR? That would be an interesting dataset to see.<br />
</p>]]></description>
<author>nak</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/06/antarctic_winters_not_so_wintery_anymore#c1052771</link>
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<category>Science</category>
<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 14:20:36 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Greg</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>On the other hand, now the penguins won't have so far to walk!</p>]]></description>
<author>Greg</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/06/antarctic_winters_not_so_wintery_anymore#c1052923</link>
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