Slog - Comments on Three Things I Learned in the Last 24 Hours http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/three_thing_i_learned_in_the_last_24_hou 1. You can still smoke in bars in Portland, Oregon, despite the passage of an anti-smoking-in-bars-and-restaurants law here ten or so years ago. Oregon's smoking ban doesn't go into effect until January of 2009. Last night I ordered a drink from a shirtless, smoking bartender. Ugh on both counts. 2. You can stand outside bars in Portland's Pearl District with a drink in your hand—right out there on the sidewalk, like you were in Munich or London or Paris. Apparently they don't have Washington-state-style liquor control board Nazis down here making sure there's a moat and a drawbridge separating dissolute... Copyright 2008 Sat, 03 May 2008 12:45:20 -0800 Mon, 05 May 2008 12:25:11 -0800 http://www.movabletype.org/?v=3.34 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Comment by Mr. Poe Wow. That's a lot. The only thing I learned in the last 24 hours is that I'm a moron.

]]> Mr. Poe http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/three_thing_i_learned_in_the_last_24_hou#c1013260 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/three_thing_i_learned_in_the_last_24_hou#c1013260 At Large Sat, 03 May 2008 13:25:59 -0800 Comment by Jubilation T. Cornball @1 -- Breakthrough!

Just kidding. I don't think you could be a moron if you tried, Mr. Poe.

]]> Jubilation T. Cornball http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/three_thing_i_learned_in_the_last_24_hou#c1013269 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/three_thing_i_learned_in_the_last_24_hou#c1013269 At Large Sat, 03 May 2008 13:48:26 -0800 Comment by David Wright No need to worry about the children in the Perl. IIRC the Pearl has among the fewest children per capita of any neighborhood in the United States. Isn't it great how attractive to families the density beloved by the backseat planners at the Stranger is?

]]> David Wright http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/three_thing_i_learned_in_the_last_24_hou#c1013270 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/three_thing_i_learned_in_the_last_24_hou#c1013270 At Large Sat, 03 May 2008 13:54:10 -0800 Comment by jake Dan:

did you learn why Blogtown, PDX is SO BORING compared to Slog? Amy Ruiz aside, there's next to no substance on that thing. It's mostly links to webvideos and lolcats with two sentences of explanation (and for some reason way more posts about portland clothing stores (??) than anyone would ever need.)

]]> jake http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/three_thing_i_learned_in_the_last_24_hou#c1013271 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/three_thing_i_learned_in_the_last_24_hou#c1013271 At Large Sat, 03 May 2008 13:54:19 -0800 Comment by Abe I really thought the Oregon Liquor Control Commission sucked and was anti-fun until I moved to Seattle.

]]> Abe http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/three_thing_i_learned_in_the_last_24_hou#c1013280 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/three_thing_i_learned_in_the_last_24_hou#c1013280 At Large Sat, 03 May 2008 14:25:24 -0800 Comment by I'm a Nuclear Bomb Portland rocks!

Especially if you enjoy making minimum wage busing tables and making coffee!

It's like one large Capitol Hill too! Everyone's on a bike and in shitty band!

]]> I'm a Nuclear Bomb http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/three_thing_i_learned_in_the_last_24_hou#c1013282 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/three_thing_i_learned_in_the_last_24_hou#c1013282 At Large Sat, 03 May 2008 14:26:37 -0800 Comment by catnextdoor At Joe Bar you can take your Duvel (or other yummy Belgian beers) outside while not being corralled.

Reason #749 to always, ALWAYS kick it at joe bar.

]]> catnextdoor http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/three_thing_i_learned_in_the_last_24_hou#c1013286 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/three_thing_i_learned_in_the_last_24_hou#c1013286 At Large Sat, 03 May 2008 14:43:09 -0800 Comment by JerryVagina Portland is the Paris of the Northwest. More smokers, easier alcohol and few psycho homos.

]]> JerryVagina http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/three_thing_i_learned_in_the_last_24_hou#c1013292 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/three_thing_i_learned_in_the_last_24_hou#c1013292 At Large Sat, 03 May 2008 14:56:55 -0800 Comment by Sir Learnsalot @6

Yes! That's why I left.

]]> Sir Learnsalot http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/three_thing_i_learned_in_the_last_24_hou#c1013294 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/three_thing_i_learned_in_the_last_24_hou#c1013294 At Large Sat, 03 May 2008 15:01:33 -0800 Comment by tb The Mercury is generally awful. It has all of the snark of the Stranger with none of the substance (i.e., actual reporting). It's one big hipster circle jerk. The Willy Week is by far the superior Portland alt weekly, except for its lack of Savage Love.

]]> tb http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/three_thing_i_learned_in_the_last_24_hou#c1013303 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/three_thing_i_learned_in_the_last_24_hou#c1013303 At Large Sat, 03 May 2008 15:11:53 -0800 Comment by PJ "Hummers" (with the S added to another word) is my personal high score for a single turn on Scrabble for 92 points.

]]> PJ http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/three_thing_i_learned_in_the_last_24_hou#c1013315 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/three_thing_i_learned_in_the_last_24_hou#c1013315 At Large Sat, 03 May 2008 15:33:22 -0800 Comment by Also you can smoke in the Saigon Pearl down south on MLK.

]]> Also http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/three_thing_i_learned_in_the_last_24_hou#c1013343 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/three_thing_i_learned_in_the_last_24_hou#c1013343 At Large Sat, 03 May 2008 16:59:45 -0800 Comment by Sheryl You left South Louisiana off the list of places you can take drinks outside the bar. Heck, we have drive-through daiquiri shops here, where they make the drinks with Everclear. It's amazingly easy to get drunk on those and not even realize how much you are drinking.

]]> Sheryl http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/three_thing_i_learned_in_the_last_24_hou#c1013362 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/three_thing_i_learned_in_the_last_24_hou#c1013362 At Large Sat, 03 May 2008 18:12:13 -0800 Comment by Fifty-Two-Eighty Hmmm, Portland. Yeah, I've been there. Rains all the fucking time. Oh, wait . . . it rains all the fucking time in Seattle too. Never mind.

]]> Fifty-Two-Eighty http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/three_thing_i_learned_in_the_last_24_hou#c1013376 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/three_thing_i_learned_in_the_last_24_hou#c1013376 At Large Sat, 03 May 2008 18:50:44 -0800 Comment by rtm Dan,

The Hummer, as you know from being a journalist yourself, is a fine old journalism term meaning a hot story: "That's a Hummer!"

It was, during a very long period of time under the guidance of Bev Kerns, the finest High School Newspaper in Oregon. During my association with the paper, we slagged Hewey Lewis, broke stories later picked up by Willamette Week, and regularly reviewed any punk rock single coming out of Orange County. Incidentally, we turned out a few writers and journalists.

And yes, the school mascot is the Beaver. I was a high school Beaver.

rtm
BHS '81

]]> rtm http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/three_thing_i_learned_in_the_last_24_hou#c1013404 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/three_thing_i_learned_in_the_last_24_hou#c1013404 At Large Sat, 03 May 2008 20:46:17 -0800 Comment by ecce homo Portland is cool

Dan is annoying.

I bet he left Terry and "his" kid at home while he hangs in P-Town.

]]> ecce homo http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/three_thing_i_learned_in_the_last_24_hou#c1013408 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/three_thing_i_learned_in_the_last_24_hou#c1013408 At Large Sat, 03 May 2008 20:53:26 -0800 Comment by Jo "I really thought the Oregon Liquor Control Commission sucked and was anti-fun until I moved to Seattle."

Question: I'm a lifelong Oregonian and I'm moving to Washington in two weeks for a new job. Are the liquor laws there really stricter than they are here under the OLCC? I didn't think that was possible.

]]> Jo http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/three_thing_i_learned_in_the_last_24_hou#c1013421 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/three_thing_i_learned_in_the_last_24_hou#c1013421 At Large Sat, 03 May 2008 21:29:29 -0800 Comment by Abe Jo,

I tended some bar down in OR, and now work in the clubs up here. It seems that the laws are roughly the same - last call is 30 minutes earlier. But they are enforced with a wild eyed vindictive vigor far beyond OLCC's. Seriously, I felt the same way as you until I witnessed it repeatedly myself. From here, Oregon looks like California did when I lived in Oregon.

]]> Abe http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/three_thing_i_learned_in_the_last_24_hou#c1013425 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/three_thing_i_learned_in_the_last_24_hou#c1013425 At Large Sat, 03 May 2008 21:38:05 -0800 Comment by Vince It seems our government thinks we are children and must always be told how to behave. Unfortunately, in many cases that is true. But having nudity and alcohol in bars seems like the least we could expect.
Drink up you whores.

]]> Vince http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/three_thing_i_learned_in_the_last_24_hou#c1013478 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/three_thing_i_learned_in_the_last_24_hou#c1013478 At Large Sun, 04 May 2008 06:34:32 -0800 Comment by Mr. Astonished How old is Dan Savage?

I think he's starting to write like, he is, you know, middle-aged.

It must be tough getting older -- and more mature -- while being in charge of a "youth-oriented" publication.

I propose that he have some high schoolers ghost-write some of his posts so that he sounds more "with it."

He can clean up the grammar and spelling(leave the ----s in, for street cred), like when they write that "Hilary is a looser."

What do you think, gang?

]]> Mr. Astonished http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/three_thing_i_learned_in_the_last_24_hou#c1013548 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/three_thing_i_learned_in_the_last_24_hou#c1013548 At Large Sun, 04 May 2008 16:20:01 -0800 Comment by Mike in MO In St. Louis, they give you plastic cups to walk around with your booze.

]]> Mike in MO http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/three_thing_i_learned_in_the_last_24_hou#c1013623 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/three_thing_i_learned_in_the_last_24_hou#c1013623 At Large Mon, 05 May 2008 05:34:48 -0800 Comment by Hartiepie @20 Oh pish. Dan may be O-L-D for a queer guy, but he keeps up with them yunguns just fine because he uses FUCK constantly even when there's no point in doing so. And as every SLOG reader knows, you simply can't be hip without using FUCK at least once in every paragraph if you want to be considered a real live hipster........

]]> Hartiepie http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/three_thing_i_learned_in_the_last_24_hou#c1013627 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/three_thing_i_learned_in_the_last_24_hou#c1013627 At Large Mon, 05 May 2008 06:25:49 -0800 Comment by Dan Savage Fuck.

]]> Dan Savage http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/three_thing_i_learned_in_the_last_24_hou#c1013656 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/three_thing_i_learned_in_the_last_24_hou#c1013656 At Large Mon, 05 May 2008 09:40:49 -0800 Comment by Mr. Poe I'll admit, it doesn't work well in the podcast. I'd rather listen to loveline than listen to Savage Love's podcast. But reading Savage is okay.

"You fucking need to fucking leave your fucking boyfriend." That's an actual quote.

]]> Mr. Poe http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/three_thing_i_learned_in_the_last_24_hou#c1013810 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/three_thing_i_learned_in_the_last_24_hou#c1013810 At Large Mon, 05 May 2008 11:24:04 -0800 Comment by butterw I used to live in an apartment across the street from Beaverton High School. One time I got a softball through my window.

]]> butterw http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/three_thing_i_learned_in_the_last_24_hou#c1013862 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/three_thing_i_learned_in_the_last_24_hou#c1013862 At Large Mon, 05 May 2008 11:30:15 -0800 Comment by j bomb @4: that's because all the really good stuff is happening at uhx/urbanhonking

]]> j bomb http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/three_thing_i_learned_in_the_last_24_hou#c1014123 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/three_thing_i_learned_in_the_last_24_hou#c1014123 At Large Mon, 05 May 2008 12:25:11 -0800