2008 The Only Committee Meeting Worth Watching On a Lovely Saturday Afternoon
posted by on May 31 at 12:05 PM
And I’m not even sure it’s worth that, but just in case you’re interested the big, potentially campaign-defining meeting of the Rules & Bylaws Committee of the Democratic National Committee it’s livestreaming here. (And at other fine, wonk-infested establishments all over the web.)
Liveblogs here, here, here, and here.
As of this moment, 12:05 PST, the committee is taking a late lunch. They’ll be back at 1:15 PST for a debate—which, given the tenor so far, should be full of pointed declarations, paeans to the wisdom of various mommas, and breaks for applause and jeers from the audience.
If THAT's too boring, I suggest hopping over to NASA TV (http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/nasatv/index.html?param=media) to watch pre-launch activities for Discovery, scheduled to lift-off at 2:02 Pacific Time.
The Hillz people are driving me crazy. They keep talking about honoring the sacredness of Michigan's primary voters. Hello?? Anyone there??? The primary was a fucking joke!! Nobody took it seriously b/c we were TOLD IT WOULDN'T COUNT! Eff.
Christ.
Oh, my.
How long would it take the diehard Clinton supporters to get around to accusing Obama of murder? Well, now we know. And somehow Obama's base gets called cultlike.
I'm not sure if anyone is surfing the web this afternoon but I've come across a couple of references to the Obamas resigning from their church, anybody else seen anything about this?
@4 - yes, Obama has given a letter of resignation. Probably his relationship with them wasn't favorable to either party.
Anyways, they just announced: Florida's getting penalized. Big surprise.
Yes, PopTart, it's true!
In other news, the Clinton supporters at the committee meeting are utterly and totally classless. That is, they lack class. Please note that.
There were a bunch of people that booed at the mention of "unity". Nice! Why not just start a Clintonian Party?
Seriously, y'all. Listen to the cheap-ass Clinton supporters. Disgusting.
This is turning out to be tragicaly good television. The Clinton fans are as classy as the candidate they are backing. I really wonder how many Republicans are in there pretending to be Democrats?
Here goes Michigan!
Ickes is a jerk. Hijack? Really? STFU. It was a joke primary, Ickes. Fuck off.
wow. turned on the tv in the middle of the amazing shuttle launch. fueltankcam ftw! meanwhile, back on earth, a bunch of bickering monkeys argue over who gets to be head monkey.
"Yeah, so a candidate wasn't on the ballot. So the authorities told everyone the election wouldn't matter. So what?! Elections have flaws!"
Ickes is so full of shit.
They're taking it to the Credential Committee in Denver???? Fuck that shit. This just in: Clinton cares more about herself than about wresting control from the Republicans. Useless. Utterly useless.
Her supporters are nothing but trash. Nothing. But. Trash. Shameful and disgusting.
Clintonistas are the new Peronistas.
or the new gauchistas
tsm, and others, when you say he wasn't on the ballot in Michigan you are wrong. Misleading.
He was on the ballot.
He took himself off the ballot.
He didn't have to. Kucinich didn't, Dodd didn't, I believe, and HRC didn't.
You keep saying he wasn't on the ballot without further explanation because those words create the impression it was like communist E Germany or something -- as if he weren't allowed on the ballot.
It wasn't like that.
He was on the ballot.
He took himself off.
He didn't have to.
He was sucking up to IA and NH when he did it, too.
Meanwhile the FL deal is a good one. It's not punishing HRC. She gets what she mainly wanted (a) recognition of FL voters having votes that count, (b) this lets her count the popular vote in some kind of twisted media made up logic, but there it is.
And good for Obama for supporting it; you may have noticed he's like ten fucking points behind in FL so if you want to have a 50 state strategy it's a good move.
Meanwhile yes Obama did resign from Trinity Church
http://blogs.suntimes.com/sweet/2008/05/obama_resigns_from_trinity_uni.html
so I guess he thinks that white priest is an asshole, too, for making fun of women crying and saying "a whole lot of white people were sad" that Barack was winning.
Ie asserting if you're not for BHO u r racist, which is itself, duh, a racist charge.
Hopefully now that he's out of Trinity he won't start going to that Catholic Church with the crazy white priest.
Oh and good tactics, releasing it on a Saturday in the middle of all this. If he'll reject his church of 20 years and 2 of his spiritual advisors, maybe he does have the gumption to do what it takes to win.
PC (Or should I say Susan?) STFU.
Love,
Balt-O-Matt
Wait. That was my inner Clinton supporter speaking. Sorry, PC.
Damn I should've bet on this. What happened was exactly what I thought would happen, everyone seated, half vote for each delegate seated.
I'm beginning to think, despite pundits saying so, that this really won't be over Tuesday.
Ickes has lost every ounce of respect that I once had for him.
This is a disaster. It was staged to mollify the Clinton campaign and her supporters. But, they will not be mollified. They came to this committee meeting feigning an interest in reaching a solution. But, the only solution they'll settle for is full-seating. They'll now take this result and harangue the world from here through the Convention about how unfair it is.
All the while, it's a crock of shit. Florida and Michigan should not be seated, period. The votes taken in those states are irredeemably tainted.
Opening this up for discussion in the hopes of uniting the party was foolish and will have the opposite affect.
...finally, this circus is being orchestrated by the Clinton campaign, and they have lost every last bit of respect I had as well.
Discovery had a BEE-YOU-TEE-FULL Ascent To Orbit (ATO) this afternoon - truly glorious, if in fact a bit of a nail-biter (I always get nervous right around the 75 second mark).
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