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<title>Slog - Comments on Two Shot at Folklife Festival</title>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/shots_fired_at_seattle_center</link>
<description>Reports coming in of shots fired at Seattle Center. More info coming. Update: A man and a woman were shot near the Center fountain. Police have someone in custody....</description>
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<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 19:11:26 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by MadDog</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Hippy on hippy violence! When will it all end!?</p>]]></description>
<author>MadDog</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/shots_fired_at_seattle_center#c1032110</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/shots_fired_at_seattle_center#c1032110</guid>
<category>News</category>
<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 19:24:16 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by The General</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>During FOLKLIFE? Really? Bizarre.</p>]]></description>
<author>The General</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/shots_fired_at_seattle_center#c1032111</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/shots_fired_at_seattle_center#c1032111</guid>
<category>News</category>
<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 19:28:02 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by The General</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>The P-I says "neither person suffered life-threatening injuries."</p>]]></description>
<author>The General</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/shots_fired_at_seattle_center#c1032112</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/shots_fired_at_seattle_center#c1032112</guid>
<category>News</category>
<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 19:29:32 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by The General</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Meanwhile, the Times maintains with its lead headline: "Good vibes at folk festival."</p>]]></description>
<author>The General</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/shots_fired_at_seattle_center#c1032113</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/shots_fired_at_seattle_center#c1032113</guid>
<category>News</category>
<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 19:31:10 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by tabletop_joe</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>!</p>]]></description>
<author>tabletop_joe</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/shots_fired_at_seattle_center#c1032114</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/shots_fired_at_seattle_center#c1032114</guid>
<category>News</category>
<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 19:35:12 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by amp</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>SPD is too busy bothering pot smoking teenagers to notice agitated people waving guns around, apparently.</p>]]></description>
<author>amp</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/shots_fired_at_seattle_center#c1032115</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/shots_fired_at_seattle_center#c1032115</guid>
<category>News</category>
<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 19:36:03 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Cale</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>From the PI</p>

<p>"Seattle firefighters arrived to treat the wounded and officers handcuffed the suspected gunman, marching him through the crowd. His face bloodied, the man was taunted by many in the crowd, some of them throwing trash at him.</p>

<p>One man got into the suspect's face, screaming, "This is a peaceful event!""</p>

<p>What a sorry excuse for a human being. Who the fuck would bring a gun to Folklife?<br />
</p>]]></description>
<author>Cale</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/shots_fired_at_seattle_center#c1032119</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/shots_fired_at_seattle_center#c1032119</guid>
<category>News</category>
<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 20:37:20 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by RainMan</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>@6: At about 5:00 this afternoon I was walking down Pike Street between 4th and 3rd.  Six police officers--I counted--four of whom were on horseback, surrounded a very stoned and confused looking kid in his early 20s sitting on the sidewalk who kept repeating "I didn't do anything!"  I have no idea what was going on, nor did I stay to find out, but it seemed a bit like overkill to me.</p>]]></description>
<author>RainMan</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/shots_fired_at_seattle_center#c1032121</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/shots_fired_at_seattle_center#c1032121</guid>
<category>News</category>
<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 20:58:02 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Mahtli69</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>While I do not condone drum circle violence, I certainly understand it.</p>]]></description>
<author>Mahtli69</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/shots_fired_at_seattle_center#c1032122</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/shots_fired_at_seattle_center#c1032122</guid>
<category>News</category>
<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 21:01:33 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by stinkbug</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>great photo at the PI, if only because the guy on the right side is in the image:</p>

<p><a href="http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/dayart/20080524/450flolklife_shooting_12.JPG" rel="nofollow">http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/dayart/20080524/450flolklife_shooting_12.JPG</a></p>]]></description>
<author>stinkbug</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/shots_fired_at_seattle_center#c1032123</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/shots_fired_at_seattle_center#c1032123</guid>
<category>News</category>
<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 21:03:30 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Giffy</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Sure, we all hate folk life, but this is just taking it a bit too far. </p>]]></description>
<author>Giffy</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/shots_fired_at_seattle_center#c1032125</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/shots_fired_at_seattle_center#c1032125</guid>
<category>News</category>
<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 21:18:17 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Genevieve</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>What?<br />
It is supposed to be a place with crappy bongs, food on a stick and way too many banjos.<br />
Though I could see getting violent after way too much banjo music.</p>]]></description>
<author>Genevieve</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/shots_fired_at_seattle_center#c1032127</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/shots_fired_at_seattle_center#c1032127</guid>
<category>News</category>
<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 21:20:46 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by elenchos</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>It's guys like that give a bad rap to all the  pathetic losers who try to inflate their self-image by owning a gun <b>responsibly</b>.</p>]]></description>
<author>elenchos</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/shots_fired_at_seattle_center#c1032128</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/shots_fired_at_seattle_center#c1032128</guid>
<category>News</category>
<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 21:25:49 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Jessica</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>@10: What drugs have to be involved to make that outfit a good idea?</p>]]></description>
<author>Jessica</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/shots_fired_at_seattle_center#c1032131</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/shots_fired_at_seattle_center#c1032131</guid>
<category>News</category>
<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 21:58:41 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Judah</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Oh, this is... He pistol whipped someone <b>at a drum circle</b>. That just pleases me on so many levels. I think I've got a woody. <br />
</p>]]></description>
<author>Judah</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/shots_fired_at_seattle_center#c1032133</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/shots_fired_at_seattle_center#c1032133</guid>
<category>News</category>
<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 22:21:41 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Judah</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Oh, this is... He pistol whipped someone <b>at a drum circle</b>. That just pleases me on so many levels. I think I've got a woody. <br />
</p>]]></description>
<author>Judah</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/shots_fired_at_seattle_center#c1032134</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/shots_fired_at_seattle_center#c1032134</guid>
<category>News</category>
<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 22:21:43 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by tsm</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Yes, I must admit that I've often felt compelled to assault someone upon encountering a drum circle. Never with a deadly weapon, though.</p>]]></description>
<author>tsm</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/shots_fired_at_seattle_center#c1032136</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/shots_fired_at_seattle_center#c1032136</guid>
<category>News</category>
<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 22:27:17 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Jubilation T. Cornball</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Folk life<br />
Everybody needs a thrill<br />
Folk life<br />
Somebody's in a space 2 kill<br />
Folk life<br />
Everybody saw the running cop<br />
A shooting, it aint real funky<br />
Unless its got that pop<br />
Dig it</p>]]></description>
<author>Jubilation T. Cornball</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/shots_fired_at_seattle_center#c1032141</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/shots_fired_at_seattle_center#c1032141</guid>
<category>News</category>
<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 22:59:56 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Zander</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Shootings?  Some people just don't get it.<br />
Folklife really calls for the Wickerman treatment.</p>]]></description>
<author>Zander</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/shots_fired_at_seattle_center#c1032144</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/shots_fired_at_seattle_center#c1032144</guid>
<category>News</category>
<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 23:18:06 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by UnCommon Sense</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>These punks (as well as some of you) make me sick!  The hippies (friends of mine) got shot just sitting with a puppy in their lap and a jay being rolled.  The wannabe gangbanger punkass pistol-whipped another wannabe gangbanger punkass and the gun went off. My friends had nothing to do with the punkasses' problems.</p>]]></description>
<author>UnCommon Sense</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/shots_fired_at_seattle_center#c1032147</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/shots_fired_at_seattle_center#c1032147</guid>
<category>News</category>
<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 23:35:41 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by UnCommon Sense</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Expect the hippies to start retaking our city from wannabe gangbanger punkasses.</p>]]></description>
<author>UnCommon Sense</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/shots_fired_at_seattle_center#c1032148</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/shots_fired_at_seattle_center#c1032148</guid>
<category>News</category>
<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 23:37:27 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Robert Zimmerman</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>The bullets, my friends, are blowing in the wind, and it's a hard, hard rain gonna fall.</p>]]></description>
<author>Robert Zimmerman</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/shots_fired_at_seattle_center#c1032152</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/shots_fired_at_seattle_center#c1032152</guid>
<category>News</category>
<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 23:46:28 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Bellevue Ave</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>hippies arent know for doing anything much of anything. </p>]]></description>
<author>Bellevue Ave</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/shots_fired_at_seattle_center#c1032159</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/shots_fired_at_seattle_center#c1032159</guid>
<category>News</category>
<pubDate>Sun, 25 May 2008 00:15:38 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by alisha</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>why did the suspect shoot the people? i was there the whole day and didnt notice anything. so many people were doing drugs, the police didnt seem to care.</p>]]></description>
<author>alisha</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/shots_fired_at_seattle_center#c1032187</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/shots_fired_at_seattle_center#c1032187</guid>
<category>News</category>
<pubDate>Sun, 25 May 2008 08:42:27 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by WhyOh-WhyOh</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>So the guy had a permit to carry a concealed weapon, huh?  But he pulled out his gun and pistol whipped someone after a heated argument, and inadvertently shot 2 innocent bystanders... Fuck that shit.  I hope his permit gets revoked, and he gets hit heavily with criminal charges, as well as civil judgments.  Thanks to him, security at Folklife is only going to get a whole lot more strict. =(</p>]]></description>
<author>WhyOh-WhyOh</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/shots_fired_at_seattle_center#c1032191</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/shots_fired_at_seattle_center#c1032191</guid>
<category>News</category>
<pubDate>Sun, 25 May 2008 09:35:54 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by I am your Mother</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>If The Stranger staff had any heart at all, they would be setting up a benefit to help the victims cover their medical expenses and their rent, since the woman shot in the leg won't be a work for while.</p>

<p>Do you get it yet?</p>]]></description>
<author>I am your Mother</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/shots_fired_at_seattle_center#c1032205</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/shots_fired_at_seattle_center#c1032205</guid>
<category>News</category>
<pubDate>Sun, 25 May 2008 10:54:08 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Mahtli69</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>@21 <blockquote>Expect the hippies to start retaking our city from wannabe gangbanger punkasses.</blockquote></p>

<p>I'm trying to picture a mob of hippies kicking out all the wannabe gangbanger punkasses, and I'm having a tough time.</p>

<p>Also, would the REAL gangsters get a free pass? Maybe the hippies and real gangsters could form an alliance against the wannabes. That would be cool.<br />
</p>]]></description>
<author>Mahtli69</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/shots_fired_at_seattle_center#c1032209</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/shots_fired_at_seattle_center#c1032209</guid>
<category>News</category>
<pubDate>Sun, 25 May 2008 11:15:35 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by ladedada</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>I love how they have to call him the "suspected" gunman, despite the kajillion witnesses and photographic evidence. Eh, that's the law, I guess.</p>]]></description>
<author>ladedada</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/shots_fired_at_seattle_center#c1032218</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/shots_fired_at_seattle_center#c1032218</guid>
<category>News</category>
<pubDate>Sun, 25 May 2008 11:57:13 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by laterite</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>After looking at the PI gallery, it's clear hippies are just as wasteful as anyone else. The ground looked like it was coated in garbage.</p>]]></description>
<author>laterite</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/shots_fired_at_seattle_center#c1032234</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/shots_fired_at_seattle_center#c1032234</guid>
<category>News</category>
<pubDate>Sun, 25 May 2008 13:38:59 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by generic cleanup person</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>#29: ohhh, you really just figured that out, people in crowds are wasteful pig asses, great for you, thats never been observed after <b>any</b> party.</p>

<p>oh wait, you expected hippies to be better, 'cause you have a one dimensional and unrealistic view of what they are - or were- in this case...</p>

<p>people make waste. it happens. the point is when it is finally cleaned up what happens.</p>

<p>right? <br />
</p>]]></description>
<author>generic cleanup person</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/shots_fired_at_seattle_center#c1032303</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/shots_fired_at_seattle_center#c1032303</guid>
<category>News</category>
<pubDate>Sun, 25 May 2008 21:44:14 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by bongodrums</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Just to be clear, this did not start as a "drum circle" per se.  Manimou Camara from Guinea, West Africa and a group of musicians were playing folklorique percussion music from Guinea.  Other uninformed people with random and inappropriate instruments joined in, and formed a shape of.....  well, you get the picture. </p>

<p>Drum circles are an American abomination, and they don't come from any country, don't come from where bongos or djembes or congas or any other ethno-specific traditional instrument or music comes from.  Drum circle = lack of understanding/respect for all the beautiful drumming traditions this world has to offer.  Pseudo-melting pot abomination.  But it makes white people feel good about themselves!  Hooray white people!  We ought to praise their multicultural misappropriation!</p>

<p>This incident wasn't in a drum circle, but nearby where people happened to be playing drums.  It happened in a massive throng of kids smoking pot in the grass...  about 40 yards from where people were playing music.</p>

<p>The ground looked dirty because 500 people got up and ran like it was a soccer riot, leaving all of their shit on the ground at the same exact moment.   Many were unable to retrieve their shit due to the police taping off the area.</p>]]></description>
<author>bongodrums</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/shots_fired_at_seattle_center#c1032307</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/shots_fired_at_seattle_center#c1032307</guid>
<category>News</category>
<pubDate>Sun, 25 May 2008 21:55:15 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Never trust a spinner....</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Were there middle-aged people doing that spinning dancing that people do at Grateful Dead concerts? That might have set the shooter off....</p>]]></description>
<author>Never trust a spinner....</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/shots_fired_at_seattle_center#c1032308</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/shots_fired_at_seattle_center#c1032308</guid>
<category>News</category>
<pubDate>Sun, 25 May 2008 22:03:44 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by generic cleanup person</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>hey mr. "bongodrums" you are not helping at all,  but thanks for the ethnomusicology of djembes of western Africa, sheesh it's not anyones fault except for the assholes that fought and, the fact that one of 'em had a gun(legally, as if that makes it better)..and still, even hippies are at times wasteful pricks.  I clean up after 'em, no big whoop.   </p>]]></description>
<author>generic cleanup person</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/shots_fired_at_seattle_center#c1032310</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/shots_fired_at_seattle_center#c1032310</guid>
<category>News</category>
<pubDate>Sun, 25 May 2008 22:21:51 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Bellevue Ave</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>white people are an abomination for african music.</p>]]></description>
<author>Bellevue Ave</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/shots_fired_at_seattle_center#c1032337</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/shots_fired_at_seattle_center#c1032337</guid>
<category>News</category>
<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 03:00:20 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by boobcat</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Innocent people being shot = not funny.</p>

<p>Sarcastic idiots posting trash on the Internet about innocent people being shot = assholes.</p>

<p>Questions?</p>]]></description>
<author>boobcat</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/shots_fired_at_seattle_center#c1032514</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/shots_fired_at_seattle_center#c1032514</guid>
<category>News</category>
<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 00:35:40 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by doogie</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>bongodrums...you are a scary person indeed. Usually racists are unintelligent lambs following their shepard. Your racism plus your finely choosen and orderly narration makes me sad for my generation and my childens generation. I guess i'll have to work a bit harder.</p>]]></description>
<author>doogie</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/shots_fired_at_seattle_center#c1032688</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/shots_fired_at_seattle_center#c1032688</guid>
<category>News</category>
<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 12:48:16 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by boobcat</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and bongodrums:</p>

<p>I've been participating in the DRUM CIRCLE on the lawn northeast of the International Fountain for twenty-five years. There is ALWAYS a drum circle there during Folklife. This is a place where percussionists and their fans gather and where ALL SKILL LEVELS ARE WELCOME to join in and participate. Get it? FOLKlife, as in all us "folks" making music and art.</p>

<p>If highly skilled percussionists want to perform on one of the stages, then they need to submit demos and go through the normal process of applying to perform. If they want to perform as buskers and not be joined by "icky white people", then they need to do so SOMEPLACE ELSE besides the lawn northeast of the International Fountain. Of course, any and all levels will be warmly accepted by long-time Folklife drummers at the usual spot next year and every year.</p>

<p>Oh, and drumming is part of EVERY human tradition, dating back to prehistory. My Native American ancestors and family were/are drummers. So were the ancestors of the Germans, the English, the Incas, the Spanish, the...well, you get the idea. Many of the participants at the drum circle "looked white" to your discerning eye, but were from Latin American performing groups visiting for Folklife. I know because I spoke with several of them. Great drummers, too.</p>

<p>Get over yourself. Please.</p>]]></description>
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