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Tuesday, May 13, 2008

Shorter Crosscut

posted by on May 13 at 18:06 PM

Rail was invented a long time ago, therefore rail is dumb.

(Next week on Crosscut: Walking—SO Precambrian!)

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Um, am I the only one who does not know what "Precambrian" means?

Posted by StrangerDanger | May 13, 2008 6:18 PM

Hey, look at it this way: at least we have a 100% reliable source of grump in our lives -- and right at our fingertips. Back in the old days, you'd have to spend half an hour riding a streetcar to your grandfather's house.

Posted by Patrick | May 13, 2008 6:29 PM

You know, they're right -- streetcars are ass. Slow, at grade, stuck in traffic, completely unsegregated and thus dangerous.

It's also a bit mystifying how we had such overwhelming civic anguish over the monorail, voting on it FIVE TIMES, yet are now proceeding with streetcar plans with no voting at all, and seemingly no public discussion or interest. They're just doing it.

Ross also covers the history of clusterfucking and missed opportunities well, and offers (gasp!) conflicting viewpoints.

What we're doing is making absolutely sure we get the worst possible combinations of systems for the maximum possible cost. The correct analogy isn't a Mercedes, as in the article, but a car with square wheels.

Posted by Fnarf | May 13, 2008 6:30 PM

No, StrangerDanger -- Erica doesn't either.

Posted by Fnarf | May 13, 2008 6:32 PM

PreCambrian: "Back in the PreCambrian Era, one could only go down to Oxford, there was no good alternative, by jove, don't you konw?"

Posted by PC | May 13, 2008 6:49 PM

Sorry, PC -- the noun or adjectival form for Cambridge is Cantabrigian, not Cambrian.

Posted by Fnarf | May 13, 2008 6:52 PM

I had to laugh at that "19th century" crack, Erica, considering you could buy a car in 1865. And Fnarf, it's funny isn't it, it's totally useless technology and yet you see it everywhere you travel. When will people learn!

Posted by MvB | May 13, 2008 6:52 PM

Nowhere in Erica's piece do I see "19th Century". Nor is it true in any meaningful sense that you could buy a car in 1865. Realistic car production -- models you could widely purchase, not novelties -- began in the early 1900s.

Posted by Fnarf | May 13, 2008 7:03 PM

I want mass transit as much as the next career pedestrian, but this Ross fellow is right, you know. The S.L.U.T. is definitely not the solution to our transportation problem.

Posted by Baxter | May 13, 2008 7:08 PM

Councilmember Nick Licata and Peter Sherwin on one side and Councilmember Jan Drago and James Kelly on the other - of opposing positions on the Streetcar Network Proposal:

Posted by LH | May 13, 2008 7:17 PM

In other news, apparently there is an obscure blog called Crosscut on the internet.

Posted by bluh? | May 13, 2008 7:51 PM

Shorter Slog: Horse and buggy may clog the streets with manure, but at least it's not the bus. Plus, the Sierra Club is backing it.

Posted by collie | May 13, 2008 8:18 PM


Is that like the "paper" for Skid Row inhabitants?

Posted by Will in Seattle | May 13, 2008 8:22 PM

Hey ECB! You forgot to mention that this particular idiot doesn't even live in Seattle. I'm sure that day-to-day life in Port Townsend has given him a special lens on what we need.

And his crack about trolley's not working on water? Now I understand why he gets the privilege to knock-elbows with good 'ol Knute.

Posted by MonkeyNose | May 13, 2008 9:21 PM

a streetcar network is dumb. 70 years after having torn the city's previous streetcar network, we're going to rebuild it?

how's that again?

Posted by ho' know | May 13, 2008 10:11 PM

It's all about Fremont.

Posted by Will in Seattle | May 14, 2008 12:56 AM

Ross Anderson, washed up Seattle Times columnist, Discovery Institute fellow, and Port Townsend resident doesn't like trains.

I wonder when he proposes replacing the state ferry system with hundreds of small Intelligently Designed private foot ferries?

Dinosaurs are not extinct - they're on life support.

Posted by Tim | May 14, 2008 1:53 AM

We are supposed to get new bus service in King County from "Transit Now." We voted for higher sales taxes in 2006. When's the "transit" and the "now" part of Transit Now scheduled to begin?

Posted by just askin' | May 14, 2008 7:02 AM

We should use the example of Third Avenue as a model for other bus system tweaks.

Posted by Greg | May 14, 2008 8:59 AM

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