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That attitude is precisely what turns off people from your/our candidate, Dan.

Cool it.

Posted by Non | May 8, 2008 3:09 PM
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When our elected representatives fail to represent us, we get cranky. We get an "attitude" about it. After all, one of the reasons we are supposed to be able to trust super delegates is that they are accountable to their constituents for their actions, including who they endorse and support.

So the cowardly public officials who ducked, and continue to duck, the controversy and let this ugly thing play out, should not be let off the hook.

Posted by elenchos | May 8, 2008 3:28 PM
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Fuck off elenchos.

It's not "representing you" when a superdelegate chooses (and takes time to choose) who they are going to use the vote THEY are entrusted with (not you) to cast. Check your rulebook.

It's not a democratic representation. Too bad so sad.


Just be glad he chose Obama, what the hell.

Posted by Non | May 8, 2008 3:32 PM
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Anytime at least a week before filing date is not late.

After that, and you shouldn't be surprised when you lose in our Top Two Primary (hint: it's not just the 36th that's going to be fun this year).

Posted by Will in Seattle | May 8, 2008 3:36 PM
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He waited until it was over to decide. That's one way to do it. There are no rules for superdelegates; they do what they want. McDermott is doing it a different way: he's waiting for purposes of his own political leverage. He's trying to see if he can use his decision to attract attention at the convention. He's laughably inept at that game, but it's his choice. Other superdelegates will be angling for administration jobs and stuff.

The thing that makes it kind of annoying is that if every superdelegate who was going to end up going for Obama eventually did it today, he'd have enough delegates to win, and this would be over. But, hey, prima-donnas in politics? No news there.

Posted by Fnarf | May 8, 2008 3:45 PM
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No, you fuck off Non. YOU fuck off. YOU!!!!

Any public official who displease me for whatever is going to hear about it, and if I'm in their district, they'll lose my vote. Too bad for them. No rulebook says I have to vote for them, and a certain US Constitution says I am very much empowered to petition them with my grievances large, grievances small and even grievances unfair and petty.

Posted by elenchos | May 8, 2008 3:46 PM
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Non seems a little sensitive. Wow!

Posted by calm down | May 8, 2008 3:59 PM
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@7

I'm not sensitive, it was just that enchelos was so blatantly wrong that I jumped to using naughty language.

Posted by Non | May 8, 2008 4:02 PM
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What about Gary Larsen?

Posted by josh | May 8, 2008 4:05 PM
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What @6 and @7 said.

Posted by Mike of Renton | May 8, 2008 4:05 PM
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@10

"Any public official who displease me for whatever is going to hear about it"(!!!!!!!!!!!)

was so petty and troll like that I thought that he was being satirical.

You embarrass yourselves.

Posted by Non | May 8, 2008 4:11 PM
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OK, fine. You're so smart and I'm so dumb. I'm a big fat troll and you're sitting there with your own rule book and everything.

Please explain to me why if a legislator uses their vote (not mine, theirs) in congress in a way I don't like, I can criticize them. "Why'd you vote against my favorite bill, damn you?" But if they use their super delegate vote in a way I don't like, I'm supposed to shut up. And I'm supposed to re-elect them? Why?

Ted Kennedy can ignore the will of his constituents, and maybe he can afford to. Lucky Ted. But Larsen ain't no Kennedy and you'd think he would know what's good for him. Gregoire seems to have figured out who she works for.

Posted by elenchos | May 8, 2008 4:23 PM
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@ 12

Weren't we talking about superdelgates voting at the convention?

You're angle in this argument could have been the recourse they face if not reflecting the manifest will of their constituents (say, your voting against them - the superdelagate vote caster - in the next election). Instead you started talking about voting in Congress and Kennedy and Gregoire and lost me somewhere along the way.

Posted by Non | May 8, 2008 4:37 PM
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Your angle, as it were.

Posted by Non | May 8, 2008 4:39 PM
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Yeah, it's too bad you couldn't follow. Oh well. I would go over it again but I'm certain everyone else reading gets it, so it isn't necessary.

Posted by elenchos | May 8, 2008 4:49 PM
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No, I mean that YOU MAKE NO SENSE so I stopped reading to correct you.

Goodbye.

Posted by Non | May 8, 2008 4:58 PM
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No. You. YOU!!!!!

Posted by elenchos | May 8, 2008 5:03 PM
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Well, there is one rule about superdelegates ...

They're not allowed to wear their stretchy tights until they declare who they are voting for.

Posted by Will in Seattle | May 8, 2008 5:07 PM
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Elenchos, are you suggesting that if you don't like something Rick Larsen does, you're not obligated by law to vote for him? Gosh. That's pretty controversial.

If it's something else going on here, I don't understand.

Posted by Fnarf | May 8, 2008 5:11 PM
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elenchos just hates getting thrown from his high horse.

Posted by laterite | May 8, 2008 8:30 PM
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Indeed, Fnarf, that is all I'm saying. Yet some people have a problem with it.

Posted by elenchos | May 9, 2008 9:25 AM

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