Slog - Comments on Rick Larsen Endorses Barack Obama http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/rick_larsen_endorses_barack_obama From the PI: Barack Obama picked up another superdelegate from Washington state Thursday when Rep. Rick Larsen announced his support for the Democratic presidential candidate. "I believe that Sen. Obama is frankly the best candidate," Larsen said. "This week Sen. Obama has proven he is tough and resilient." Frankly, Rick, you're a little late. Your constituents came to that conclusion—Obama is the best candidate—months and months ago. But welcome to the club.... Copyright 2008 Thu, 08 May 2008 14:56:45 -0800 Fri, 09 May 2008 09:25:24 -0800 http://www.movabletype.org/?v=3.34 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Comment by Non That attitude is precisely what turns off people from your/our candidate, Dan.

Cool it.

]]> Non http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/rick_larsen_endorses_barack_obama#c1020378 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/rick_larsen_endorses_barack_obama#c1020378 2008 Thu, 08 May 2008 15:09:29 -0800 Comment by elenchos When our elected representatives fail to represent us, we get cranky. We get an "attitude" about it. After all, one of the reasons we are supposed to be able to trust super delegates is that they are accountable to their constituents for their actions, including who they endorse and support.

So the cowardly public officials who ducked, and continue to duck, the controversy and let this ugly thing play out, should not be let off the hook.

]]> elenchos http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/rick_larsen_endorses_barack_obama#c1020405 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/rick_larsen_endorses_barack_obama#c1020405 2008 Thu, 08 May 2008 15:28:54 -0800 Comment by Non Fuck off elenchos.

It's not "representing you" when a superdelegate chooses (and takes time to choose) who they are going to use the vote THEY are entrusted with (not you) to cast. Check your rulebook.

It's not a democratic representation. Too bad so sad.


Just be glad he chose Obama, what the hell.

]]> Non http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/rick_larsen_endorses_barack_obama#c1020417 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/rick_larsen_endorses_barack_obama#c1020417 2008 Thu, 08 May 2008 15:32:41 -0800 Comment by Will in Seattle Anytime at least a week before filing date is not late.

After that, and you shouldn't be surprised when you lose in our Top Two Primary (hint: it's not just the 36th that's going to be fun this year).

]]> Will in Seattle http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/rick_larsen_endorses_barack_obama#c1020427 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/rick_larsen_endorses_barack_obama#c1020427 2008 Thu, 08 May 2008 15:36:47 -0800 Comment by Fnarf He waited until it was over to decide. That's one way to do it. There are no rules for superdelegates; they do what they want. McDermott is doing it a different way: he's waiting for purposes of his own political leverage. He's trying to see if he can use his decision to attract attention at the convention. He's laughably inept at that game, but it's his choice. Other superdelegates will be angling for administration jobs and stuff.

The thing that makes it kind of annoying is that if every superdelegate who was going to end up going for Obama eventually did it today, he'd have enough delegates to win, and this would be over. But, hey, prima-donnas in politics? No news there.

]]> Fnarf http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/rick_larsen_endorses_barack_obama#c1020451 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/rick_larsen_endorses_barack_obama#c1020451 2008 Thu, 08 May 2008 15:45:23 -0800 Comment by elenchos No, you fuck off Non. YOU fuck off. YOU!!!!

Any public official who displease me for whatever is going to hear about it, and if I'm in their district, they'll lose my vote. Too bad for them. No rulebook says I have to vote for them, and a certain US Constitution says I am very much empowered to petition them with my grievances large, grievances small and even grievances unfair and petty.

]]> elenchos http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/rick_larsen_endorses_barack_obama#c1020452 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/rick_larsen_endorses_barack_obama#c1020452 2008 Thu, 08 May 2008 15:46:00 -0800 Comment by calm down Non seems a little sensitive. Wow!

]]> calm down http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/rick_larsen_endorses_barack_obama#c1020490 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/rick_larsen_endorses_barack_obama#c1020490 2008 Thu, 08 May 2008 15:59:29 -0800 Comment by Non @7

I'm not sensitive, it was just that enchelos was so blatantly wrong that I jumped to using naughty language.

]]> Non http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/rick_larsen_endorses_barack_obama#c1020494 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/rick_larsen_endorses_barack_obama#c1020494 2008 Thu, 08 May 2008 16:02:15 -0800 Comment by josh What about Gary Larsen?

]]> josh http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/rick_larsen_endorses_barack_obama#c1020504 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/rick_larsen_endorses_barack_obama#c1020504 2008 Thu, 08 May 2008 16:05:05 -0800 Comment by Mike of Renton What @6 and @7 said.

]]> Mike of Renton http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/rick_larsen_endorses_barack_obama#c1020507 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/rick_larsen_endorses_barack_obama#c1020507 2008 Thu, 08 May 2008 16:05:23 -0800 Comment by Non @10

"Any public official who displease me for whatever is going to hear about it"(!!!!!!!!!!!)

was so petty and troll like that I thought that he was being satirical.

You embarrass yourselves.

]]> Non http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/rick_larsen_endorses_barack_obama#c1020526 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/rick_larsen_endorses_barack_obama#c1020526 2008 Thu, 08 May 2008 16:11:34 -0800 Comment by elenchos OK, fine. You're so smart and I'm so dumb. I'm a big fat troll and you're sitting there with your own rule book and everything.

Please explain to me why if a legislator uses their vote (not mine, theirs) in congress in a way I don't like, I can criticize them. "Why'd you vote against my favorite bill, damn you?" But if they use their super delegate vote in a way I don't like, I'm supposed to shut up. And I'm supposed to re-elect them? Why?

Ted Kennedy can ignore the will of his constituents, and maybe he can afford to. Lucky Ted. But Larsen ain't no Kennedy and you'd think he would know what's good for him. Gregoire seems to have figured out who she works for.

]]> elenchos http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/rick_larsen_endorses_barack_obama#c1020559 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/rick_larsen_endorses_barack_obama#c1020559 2008 Thu, 08 May 2008 16:23:45 -0800 Comment by Non @ 12

Weren't we talking about superdelgates voting at the convention?

You're angle in this argument could have been the recourse they face if not reflecting the manifest will of their constituents (say, your voting against them - the superdelagate vote caster - in the next election). Instead you started talking about voting in Congress and Kennedy and Gregoire and lost me somewhere along the way.

]]> Non http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/rick_larsen_endorses_barack_obama#c1020592 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/rick_larsen_endorses_barack_obama#c1020592 2008 Thu, 08 May 2008 16:37:26 -0800 Comment by Non Your angle, as it were.

]]> Non http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/rick_larsen_endorses_barack_obama#c1020600 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/rick_larsen_endorses_barack_obama#c1020600 2008 Thu, 08 May 2008 16:39:28 -0800 Comment by elenchos Yeah, it's too bad you couldn't follow. Oh well. I would go over it again but I'm certain everyone else reading gets it, so it isn't necessary.

]]> elenchos http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/rick_larsen_endorses_barack_obama#c1020622 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/rick_larsen_endorses_barack_obama#c1020622 2008 Thu, 08 May 2008 16:49:47 -0800 Comment by Non No, I mean that YOU MAKE NO SENSE so I stopped reading to correct you.

Goodbye.

]]> Non http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/rick_larsen_endorses_barack_obama#c1020637 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/rick_larsen_endorses_barack_obama#c1020637 2008 Thu, 08 May 2008 16:58:08 -0800 Comment by elenchos No. You. YOU!!!!!

]]> elenchos http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/rick_larsen_endorses_barack_obama#c1020648 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/rick_larsen_endorses_barack_obama#c1020648 2008 Thu, 08 May 2008 17:03:31 -0800 Comment by Will in Seattle Well, there is one rule about superdelegates ...

They're not allowed to wear their stretchy tights until they declare who they are voting for.

]]> Will in Seattle http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/rick_larsen_endorses_barack_obama#c1020658 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/rick_larsen_endorses_barack_obama#c1020658 2008 Thu, 08 May 2008 17:07:32 -0800 Comment by Fnarf Elenchos, are you suggesting that if you don't like something Rick Larsen does, you're not obligated by law to vote for him? Gosh. That's pretty controversial.

If it's something else going on here, I don't understand.

]]> Fnarf http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/rick_larsen_endorses_barack_obama#c1020666 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/rick_larsen_endorses_barack_obama#c1020666 2008 Thu, 08 May 2008 17:11:58 -0800 Comment by laterite elenchos just hates getting thrown from his high horse.

]]> laterite http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/rick_larsen_endorses_barack_obama#c1020785 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/rick_larsen_endorses_barack_obama#c1020785 2008 Thu, 08 May 2008 20:30:21 -0800 Comment by elenchos Indeed, Fnarf, that is all I'm saying. Yet some people have a problem with it.

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