Well, now everybody in the Springs knows where to go for all the hot, underage action.
It's so kinky. I can't wait for the consensual role-playing version.
Oh yeah, this too.
Didn't Freud write about how father's secretly want to fuck their daughters? (or is it the son wanting to fuck the mothers?) Whatever it was, those pictures SCREAM incest!!
And you know what they say about Incest; it's a game the whole family can enjoy!!
I don't want it to be creepy, but the pictures, damn creepy!
"Stephen Clark, 64, came to the ball for the first time with Ashley Avery, 17, who is “promised” to his son, Zane, 16."
The picture from Dan's earlier post with the girls in their white dresses circled around the cross totally looks like they're dancing around a maypole. I think this whole ritual has a similar subtext.
Holy christmas, that pic under # 2 is SOFA KING creepy.
Now if you could only get rid of all the dads, you could take this from creepy to hot in two seconds...
There's got to be some intentionality on the part of the writer, photographer or editor. Right? I mean that picture in #2 is just screaming to be interpreted in exactly the way we are.
Not that I don't think the event is creepy, but the word choice and way the photographs were taken reinforce that impression. A LOT.
The author wasn't even very subtle about evoking incest with the writing. Come on. Why "flushed" and not just "tired?" There was enough freaky material with that sort of embellishment.
I agree with leek about the writer and editor. The tie-in between the murky waters of exploitationquote by Mr. Wilson and the finale of the father taking his daughter for a walk around the hotel’s dark, glassy lake is literary heaven, pure heaven.
@3 It's "[...]Pederasto, the game for ALL the family."
And yes, I do realize that pederasty male to male, but close enough.
The idea is this: if girls are getting enough love and attention from their fathers, they won't seek out love and attention from other men.
The assumption is that only reason any girl ever wants to lose her virginity is to fill a Daddy-shaped hole in her heart.
'Cause, you know, good Christian girls only have sex for validation, never for enjoyment.
Creepy? How about this sentence:
If most teenage girls would not be caught dead dancing with their dads, the girls at the ball twirled for hours with their game but stiff fathers.
Isn't this what got that guy in Austria into so much trouble recently. All he wanted was to keep his little angel in her very own "purity" dungeon (oh, I mean room), where she could keep all of her children/siblings "pure" as well.
Is it just the lighting, or are the dresses in those photos off-white?
The first two hours of the gala passed like any somewhat awkward night out with parents, the men doing nearly all the talking and the girls struggling to cut their chicken.
oh yeah. Men are mundane and intelligent and women can't even manage knife and fork.
Yet the graying men in the shadow of their glittering daughters were the true focus of the night. To
those frail, teenaged white roses, won't have sex because they are trained not to decide, do, want anything. they are their men's trophy, nothing else.
I agree it's creepy, but its not as creepy as a young teenager who hasn't had a strong father figure in her life shacking up with some way older boyfriend who's just using her for sex.
Nah, nothing creepy about taking two “flushed, sleepy” young girls for a creepy walk around the creepy, glassy lake. Nothing creepy about that at all.
I find the whole idea of a "purity ball" intellectually repugnant, but this bit about taking two "flushed, sleepy" young girls for a creepy walk around the creepy lake is bullshit. Because, see, the two young girls are his daughters, you ignorant twat. I know the whole idea of a man having an intimate and caring relationship with girls he doesn't want to fuck is utterly antithetical to your thinking about how men's minds work, but not only is it possible -- it's actually fairly common.
Your attitude says a lot more about your twisted preconceptions than it does about the father or his daughters -- their prior participation in a misogynistic fundamentalist cult ritual notwithstanding.
raindrop, is your assertion that this sort of event prevents that sort of outcome? If so, would you also then agree with the corollary: If teenage girls do not participate in an event such as this, they are more likely to end up shacking up with some way older boyfriend who's just using her for sex?
@6 Maypoles and May Day celebrations are fertility celebrations and encourage liaisons, not discourage them. I don't understand how they could have a similar subtext if this event is designed to avert sex.
"Stephen Clark, 64, came to the ball for the first time with Ashley Avery, 17, who is “promised” to his son, Zane, 16. "
@19 is right. The purity balls are weird, religious nuttery to be sure, but painting men who are close to their daughters as pedophiles or potential daughter-rapists is complete bullshit and absurdly sexist. Is it only religious men who are automatically suspected of wanting to fuck their daughters? What about moms and their "momma's boys"?
Again, the purity balls are creepy for lots of reasons, but just because you (we) don't care for religious people and don't agree with their lifestyle doesn't make them fucking child rapists.
Here's the extent of my dad's "purity ball" speech, c. 1978: "Jeezisgoddamnchrist, don't go out there and get pregnant or you'll be eating dog food off the back porch." It worked.
Maybe if the fathers hadn't waited until their daughters were at prime virginity-losin' age to get involved with their lives, they wouldn't have to be so worried about it now.
And EWWWW. Being escorted to the ball by your boyfriend's dad? Creepy McCreepersons.
@ 19, 23 - exactly.
Inkweary: You're right. I just meant that the phallic and fertility symbolism seems pretty familiar, and this rite seems to be trying to subvert them into a uniquely American Evangelical take on the whole sexual-rite-of-passage angle. The goal seems to be to celebrate the girls' budding sexuality while simultaneously placing strict controls on it. It seems to be highly focused on maintaining the daughters' market value as marriageable virgins.
"Creepy and incestuous" is the best diversion you can come up with to avoid the possibility that the father's are sincere and are doing this because they really care about their daughters?
I feel nauseated.
Encouraging fathers to spend time with and be involved in their daughters life=good
Encouraging fathers to view their daughters sexuality as a commodity they must guard=bad.
I thought, absent the purity ball context, that the father taking his daughters for a walk around the lake was sweet. Those are the kind of memories that kids often cherish.
Has all the fixin's of a reality show. Can't wait!
"Asked for her opinion on widespread rumors that Barack Obama betrothed his two underage daughters to the gay Muslim atheist property developer Rev. Rezko-Wright at a recent purity ball in San Francisco, Senator Clinton said the allegations were, 'untrue. Probably. This sort of thing certainly does go on among unpatriotic fancy-talking elitists. Who eat a lot of watermelon. But that's neither here nor there.'"
For anyone who has read "Lolita" as often as I have, the "flushed, tired " girls and the "glass" lake have very specific connotations which I can't believe the writer of the story didn't know.
I'm sorry, 100% of these dads are either child molesters or want to be child molesters. It's just that simple. As for the girls - all I can say is, good luck making it to adulthood without serious emotional scars.
The girl in the first picture almost has the pose down right. She just needs to open her mouth wider.
it's creepy, but its not as creepy as a young teenager who hasn't had a strong father figure in her life shacking up with some way older boyfriend who's just using her for sex
Also, @ 23: being involved in your kids' lives and attending a father-teenage daughter dance centered around, ahem, viginity are two very different things.
being involved in your kids' lives and attending a father-teenage daughter dance centered around, ahem, viginity are two very different things.
Really? How so?
Be really specific.
You didn't seal the deal, comedically speakin', about filling holes. But I won't finish the job, lest Laurelgardner get the vapors.
Some of these gals will turn out okay. Yeah yeah, some will be uptight, but I'm sure some latte-sipping Volvo-driving parents at the Unitarian Church are finding some other way to tighten similar mental screws in their kids' noggins.
These gals just might hold off a little longer. Or do all SORTS of things except the ol' in-out. Or they might grow up to feel very NAUGHTY about the fun they're having, which might be a benefit.
I can only imagine. I grew up with no religion, one Scandinavianish parent, and just didn't receive a whole bunch of "NAUGHTY!" instruction in those years. I was pretty much left alone, and to this day, I suspect Madonna is having more fun. She feels NAUGHTY, breaking x,y, and z rules.
Okay, it's 11 pm, time for me to grab some baby oil and go fuck my plastic grocery bag collection.
banjoyboy, that is priceless.
Wanting to spend time with your daughter and be active in her life is an admirable goal. Being an active participant in this bullshit sexist event is not a very good way to achieve that goal. The messages it sends are not exactly healthy, positive ones. I'm all for kids waiting until they're a bit older to have sex, but the whole dads guarding their purity thing is ridiculous.
Oh, come on. This is nothing more than a stupid beat-you-over-the-head-with-Christianity version of what used to be commonplace and, yes, innocent event: A Father/Daughter breakfast or lunch - dreary, chaste, but mostly secular events that might at the most have had a short address from an elderly pastor.
Most of the fathers and daughters at this thing probably felt pretty awkward about this shit, but they go along, because their church expects them to.
And it's constantly reinforced in lowbrow movies and TV shows as well: The former "playboy" daddy who feels the need to be a pitbull to his little girl's boyfriends is a stock character. Same old crap, just with rented tuxes and formals from Sears.
Sometimes a banana is just a banana.
Because every Christian dad who wants his daughter to be a virgin is an INCESTUAL CHILD MOLESTER! The pictures and adjectives PROVE it.
Every child deserves a god-fearing mother and father.
This should be a regular feature! It's awesome the way Erica DEMOLISHES Christianity, man.
Well there should be some sort of happy medium here. My late dad, who was a very religious man - but not an asshole about it - certainly loved my sister, and wanted what was best for her. But he would never have attended something called a "purity ball" (for one thing, he couldn't have kept a straight face while mentioning that name), nor would my sister dream of attending something like that, had they existed then.
At best, some sort of father/daughter dinner-dance, with a bar so he could get a martini, would be much more his speed. Something that didn't cost much, and ended early enough so he could get home to watch Johnny Carson.
But beyond that, both he and my mom knew enough about life to know that it's not a good idea to try to get a kid to "pledge" to anything. It's much better to know your kid, and what he/she is thinking, and what scares and thrills them about how their body is changing. Going through puberty is tough enough without constant harping about the evils of sex.
One thing that nobody has yet mentioned is the pernicious subtext: that sex is evil and dirty.
The girls are "pure" because they haven't had sex. Sex, therefore, is bad, evil, horrible, dangerous, etc.; and the girls will be fucked up about it because sex is also the strongest human need, bar the desire to live or eat.
It's not just creepy, it's sick.
is it wrong to encourage your kids to put off sexual activity (with others) for as long as possible? no.
is this more than a bit neurotic and ritualistic about it? yes.
Agreed with ellarosa. (& Where are the boy balls, anyway?)
This whole thing is weird...how about just raising your daughters to respect themselves?
No need to go to sex related balls. Geez
The boy balls are held in dark places, but the location is constantly changing. Especially when it's our turn at bat.
Look, yes, the whole father protecting his little girls virginity thing is creepy. Dress up and go to a ball with Daddy? That is just cute. I think it is sweet that the one father went for a walk with his daughters afterwards.
I am pretty sure if this was a father-daughter ball for a less creepy cause no one here would be trashing the cute father daughter moments. We don't need to imply that all zealous religious people are incestuous freaks.
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