Slog - Comments on Re: Clinton and Her "White Americans" http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/re_clinton_and_her_white_americans Let's reflect for a few more blog moments on the rather amazing statement that Hillary Clinton made yesterday explaining her justification for remaining in the race for the Democratic nomination. Sorry for re-posting the statement in full, but it deserves a second look: “I have a much broader base to build a winning coalition on,” she said in an interview with USA TODAY. As evidence, Clinton cited an Associated Press article “that found how Sen. Obama’s support among working, hard-working Americans, white Americans, is weakening again, and how whites in both states who had not completed college were supporting me."... Copyright 2008 Thu, 08 May 2008 09:45:40 -0800 Sun, 11 May 2008 08:30:43 -0800 http://www.movabletype.org/?v=3.34 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Comment by Will in Seattle Obama is about expanding the Democratic Party to represent all Americans and our core values of Truth, Justice, and the American Middle Class way of life.

Clinton is about her peeps.

McCain is about his (adopted) peeps working for the uber-elite top 0.1 percent of America while becoming serfs.

Choose.

Me, I'm going with the guy who makes more pies, not the ones who want to shrink the pies.

]]> Will in Seattle http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/re_clinton_and_her_white_americans#c1019667 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/re_clinton_and_her_white_americans#c1019667 2008 Thu, 08 May 2008 09:51:04 -0800 Comment by Jiberish clinton has always been for minorities so she finds it a big galling that they don't show a bit more respect. she comes across as the white housewife with a person of color maid who becomes bewildered when they want to better themselves/vote...

]]> Jiberish http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/re_clinton_and_her_white_americans#c1019677 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/re_clinton_and_her_white_americans#c1019677 2008 Thu, 08 May 2008 09:58:00 -0800 Comment by six shooter She's positioning herself for a powerful exit. If there's a divide in the party (there is), and if she can paint herself as representative of the half of the divide Obama doesn't reach (she can), then she loses strongly.

Expect MORE "I can bring the Democrats X" in the upcoming week.

]]> six shooter http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/re_clinton_and_her_white_americans#c1019678 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/re_clinton_and_her_white_americans#c1019678 2008 Thu, 08 May 2008 09:58:01 -0800 Comment by MK "Remember: Hillary Clinton cannot win the Democrat nomination through the votes of ordinary Americans"

"Democrat nomination"?? I thought only the Right used that insult to grammar to piss us off. It's DemocratIC nomination.

]]> MK http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/re_clinton_and_her_white_americans#c1019681 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/re_clinton_and_her_white_americans#c1019681 2008 Thu, 08 May 2008 09:59:07 -0800 Comment by JC Maybe this is her way of uniting the Democratic party. If she acts crazy enough, her supporters won't feel so bad for abandoning her and rallying around Obama. It's already working.

]]> JC http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/re_clinton_and_her_white_americans#c1019693 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/re_clinton_and_her_white_americans#c1019693 2008 Thu, 08 May 2008 10:04:22 -0800 Comment by cochise. Man, what a ball-buster. She's now acting like a bitch or even a fat, lesbian harpy. She reminds me of my wife, nag, nag, nag - lie, lie, lie - cackle, cackle, cackle (at least my wife has never push me to cheat!).

Just drop OUT!

If she ever wants to be in a position like this again (or any woman for that matter), she needs to show that she's a competent, liberal, intelligent and tough woman. Men don't need to prove this, it's a given.


pfffffffffffff

]]> cochise. http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/re_clinton_and_her_white_americans#c1019709 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/re_clinton_and_her_white_americans#c1019709 2008 Thu, 08 May 2008 10:14:53 -0800 Comment by PC she should concede. stephanopoulos said she wants to negotiate her way out in exchange for vp. she shouldn't do that. it shouldn't be a quid pro quo. it's obama's to offer not hers to demand. he's the winner, he gets the choice and deserves the respect.

]]> PC http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/re_clinton_and_her_white_americans#c1019714 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/re_clinton_and_her_white_americans#c1019714 2008 Thu, 08 May 2008 10:17:29 -0800 Comment by Offensive! Please delete @6. Sounds a lot like ecce.

]]> Offensive! http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/re_clinton_and_her_white_americans#c1019715 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/re_clinton_and_her_white_americans#c1019715 2008 Thu, 08 May 2008 10:18:57 -0800 Comment by mackro mackro When you have a popular person-vs-person series on TV, you don't end the fight in the MIDDLE of the series, right?

This is just WWE for the Democrats at this point.

]]> mackro mackro http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/re_clinton_and_her_white_americans#c1019718 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/re_clinton_and_her_white_americans#c1019718 2008 Thu, 08 May 2008 10:19:45 -0800 Comment by cochise. @8 fascist! You’re “pure”, clean, non-offensive world will never exist.

]]> cochise. http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/re_clinton_and_her_white_americans#c1019719 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/re_clinton_and_her_white_americans#c1019719 2008 Thu, 08 May 2008 10:22:16 -0800 Comment by cochise. oooops, you no what i meen.

]]> cochise. http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/re_clinton_and_her_white_americans#c1019725 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/re_clinton_and_her_white_americans#c1019725 2008 Thu, 08 May 2008 10:23:49 -0800 Comment by Mr Joshua I don't think "pyrrhic victory" is the right term for Al Gore in the 2000 election. A pyrrhic victory is happens at great cost to the victor and Al Gore neither suffered much nor actually won the election.

If, say, McCain's wife died of cancer propelling him to victory, that would be pyrrhic.

]]> Mr Joshua http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/re_clinton_and_her_white_americans#c1019807 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/re_clinton_and_her_white_americans#c1019807 2008 Thu, 08 May 2008 11:16:31 -0800 Comment by Eli Sanders Good point, Mr. Joshua. Deleted "pyrrhic."

]]> Eli Sanders http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/re_clinton_and_her_white_americans#c1019859 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/re_clinton_and_her_white_americans#c1019859 2008 Thu, 08 May 2008 11:42:14 -0800 Comment by Matthew "Democrats don’t need to win over every last uneducated white voter in America in order to have a successful coalition."

And thank fuck for that...what a horrible fucking party we would have if that were the case.

]]> Matthew http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/re_clinton_and_her_white_americans#c1019865 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/re_clinton_and_her_white_americans#c1019865 2008 Thu, 08 May 2008 11:45:36 -0800 Comment by Westside forever The Dixiecrats have risen again!

]]> Westside forever http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/re_clinton_and_her_white_americans#c1019886 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/re_clinton_and_her_white_americans#c1019886 2008 Thu, 08 May 2008 11:56:09 -0800 Comment by I've got A.D.D. Don't worry about it too much.

Most Democratic Voters are not really paying attention to this or the specifics of the statements being made, or the pundits, the bloggers, etc.

Obama will be fine.

The Democrats are going to kick McCain's ass.

In a month no one will even remember this.

]]> I've got A.D.D. http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/re_clinton_and_her_white_americans#c1019902 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/re_clinton_and_her_white_americans#c1019902 2008 Thu, 08 May 2008 12:04:09 -0800 Comment by bob She's treading water until her people can come up with some dirt on Obama that will blow him out of the race. Maybe he had an affair, maybe he used to roll joints with paper that looked like tiny American flags, something like that.

]]> bob http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/re_clinton_and_her_white_americans#c1019936 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/re_clinton_and_her_white_americans#c1019936 2008 Thu, 08 May 2008 12:25:13 -0800 Comment by elenchos There was this James Cagney movie where the priest asked him to act terrified when they drug him to the electric chair at the end of the movie. So the kids watching him would lose respect for him and not become notorious gangsters themselves. What movie was that?

]]> elenchos http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/re_clinton_and_her_white_americans#c1020042 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/re_clinton_and_her_white_americans#c1020042 2008 Thu, 08 May 2008 12:57:11 -0800 Comment by James Cagney angels with dirty faces

]]> James Cagney http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/re_clinton_and_her_white_americans#c1020101 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/re_clinton_and_her_white_americans#c1020101 2008 Thu, 08 May 2008 13:15:30 -0800 Comment by Jay 17: That's exactly what she's doing. Buying time before the next big "scandal" which will probably involve race, radical politics or sexual indiscretions. It's so fucking transparent.

]]> Jay http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/re_clinton_and_her_white_americans#c1020150 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/re_clinton_and_her_white_americans#c1020150 2008 Thu, 08 May 2008 13:32:14 -0800 Comment by whatevernevermind "Al Gore neither suffered much nor actually won the election."

We'll never know how much he suffered, but we do know that he won the election. What he lost was the illegal Supreme Court ruling. In Post-Democracy America, not getting the Presidency is not the same thing as not being elected to it.

]]> whatevernevermind http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/re_clinton_and_her_white_americans#c1020400 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/re_clinton_and_her_white_americans#c1020400 2008 Thu, 08 May 2008 15:26:33 -0800 Comment by Bellevue Ave @21, why was gore so bad a candidate that he could have won without some small shenanigans going against him?

]]> Bellevue Ave http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/re_clinton_and_her_white_americans#c1020424 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/re_clinton_and_her_white_americans#c1020424 2008 Thu, 08 May 2008 15:35:58 -0800 Comment by LMSW Two possibilities come to mind.
She wants something in exchange for her support, that is in exchange for delivering the non-obama vote.
She is setting up a "I told you so" for 2012.

]]> LMSW http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/re_clinton_and_her_white_americans#c1020742 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/re_clinton_and_her_white_americans#c1020742 2008 Thu, 08 May 2008 19:03:43 -0800 Comment by Uneducated White Voters http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wd6HbBwg9iw

]]> Uneducated White Voters http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/re_clinton_and_her_white_americans#c1022071 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/re_clinton_and_her_white_americans#c1022071 2008 Sun, 11 May 2008 08:30:43 -0800