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<description>Ah, Texas. A homeless man who spit in the mouth and eye of a police officer and then taunted him, saying he was H.I.V. positive, was sentenced to 35 years in prison on Wednesday for harassing a public servant with a deadly weapon: his saliva. Because of the deadly weapon finding, the man, Willie Campbell, 42, of Dallas, will not be eligible for parole until he has served half his sentence. Does it matter that you can&apos;t get HIV from saliva? Apparently not to juries in Texas....</description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 10:30:42 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by philly</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>this happened to a guy in NJ in the 90's too.</p>]]></description>
<author>philly</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/positively_ridiculous#c1026403</link>
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<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 10:35:54 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Mr. Poe</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>One less psychotic bum off the street. In a perfect world, the officer would have shot him.</p>]]></description>
<author>Mr. Poe</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/positively_ridiculous#c1026425</link>
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<category>News</category>
<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 10:44:49 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by COMTE</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>"When lugies are outlawed, only outlaws will hock lugies."</p>]]></description>
<author>COMTE</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/positively_ridiculous#c1026430</link>
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<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 10:48:25 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by umvue</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>It's called "law".  A deadly weapon is a deadly weapon by definition/statute, regardless of the amount of deadly it posseses.<br />
See, e.g.<br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deadly_weapon" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deadly_weapon</a><br />
</p>]]></description>
<author>umvue</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/positively_ridiculous#c1026433</link>
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<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 10:50:57 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by UNPAID BLOGGER</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>I'd assume the bum has gum disease, in which case he has trace amounts of blood in his saliva... not exactly sanitary or safe by any means.</p>]]></description>
<author>UNPAID BLOGGER</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/positively_ridiculous#c1026450</link>
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<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 10:59:35 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by umvue</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Not a lawyer but reading TX appeals my bets are that this case, if appealed, may be overturned due to inability to show "capability" of causing death or serious bodily injury.</p>]]></description>
<author>umvue</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/positively_ridiculous#c1026464</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/positively_ridiculous#c1026464</guid>
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<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 11:04:52 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Xian</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Dallas Morning News has more details:<br />
<a href="http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/dn/latestnews/stories/051508dnmetspit.2fc6bdb.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/dn/latestnews/stories/051508dnmetspit.2fc6bdb.html</a></p>

<p>Given that the man already has a history with the police and jail, he's not on solid ground to begin with.  </p>

<p>He was using his HIV status to intimidate the officer and resist arrest, and quite honestly gives off the impression that if he could have transmitted the disease by saliva, he certainly would; the fact that he intended to do harm to the officer, regardless of the effectiveness of it, is a huge strike against him.  He may not have actually had a "deadly weapon", but he acted as if his saliva was and used it as if it was, and that's something highly relevant.  If you want to get especially nit-picky (which I'm sure the prosecution was), it is theoretically possible to transmit this way if he had enough blood in his saliva and the cop had an open sore in his mouth or on his face; a ludicrous long-shot, to be sure, but just as exploitative of the ignorance around HIV transmission and AIDS in general as spitting in the cop's eyes and then turning around and say "I have AIDS!"</p>

<p>In short, while I have no love for cops, this guy gets no sympathy.</p>]]></description>
<author>Xian</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/positively_ridiculous#c1026465</link>
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<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 11:05:34 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by brandon</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>sorry, saliva isn't a deadly weapon.  even HIV+ saliva.  this has been known for, oh, a couple decades now.</p>]]></description>
<author>brandon</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/positively_ridiculous#c1026469</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/positively_ridiculous#c1026469</guid>
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<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 11:07:47 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Fnarf</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Doesn't matter. If I rob a bank, it doesn't matter if I have a real gun in my pocket or just my finger. If the note says "I have a gun" I'm in deep doo-doo.<br /><br />
At least he's not homeless anymore, huh?</p>]]></description>
<author>Fnarf</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/positively_ridiculous#c1026488</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/positively_ridiculous#c1026488</guid>
<category>News</category>
<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 11:23:14 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Mr Fuzzy</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>I'm guessing he doesn't mind being in jail, since he's homeless.</p>]]></description>
<author>Mr Fuzzy</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/positively_ridiculous#c1026498</link>
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<category>News</category>
<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 11:31:43 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Sarah</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Having never been either, I'm curious to know whether it is worse to be homeless or jailed.  On the one hand, you have the freedom to roam about and be as crazy as you please; on the other, you get fed regularly and have a relatively safe place to sleep at night.  Anyone?</p>]]></description>
<author>Sarah</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/positively_ridiculous#c1026516</link>
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<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 11:38:29 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Y.F.</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>I think I'll save my compassion for some other homeless person. One that doesn't go around trying to purposely infect other people with HIV. Yeah, it's not likely he'd ever succeed in actually infecting somebody by spitting on them, but he's TRYING to give it to other people, which makes him something of a douche.</p>]]></description>
<author>Y.F.</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/positively_ridiculous#c1026534</link>
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<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 11:49:13 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Fnarf</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Sarah, I've been both. They both suck more than you can possibly imagine. Homeless is worse.</p>]]></description>
<author>Fnarf</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/positively_ridiculous#c1026541</link>
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<category>News</category>
<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 11:53:51 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Will in Seattle</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>There's no IQ test to be on a jury.</p>

<p>But you do have to support capital punishment for cattle rustling and anyone DWB.</p>]]></description>
<author>Will in Seattle</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/positively_ridiculous#c1026570</link>
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<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 12:10:45 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by ecce homo</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Fuck the bum,</p>

<p>I am with Poe. It's too bad the cop didn't shoot the shit head.</p>]]></description>
<author>ecce homo</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/positively_ridiculous#c1026596</link>
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<category>News</category>
<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 12:24:35 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Alberto Gonzalez</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>@4 - Brilliant. Next time I'm in court attempting to defend a client from whatever bullshit enhancement the prosecution has thrown at them for pure political gain, I'll make sure to look the judge straight in the eye and cite wikipedia. </p>

<p>@7 - Fortunately, in this country, you go to trial on current charges, not previous ones. It is entirely irrelevant to the current charge that "he has a history with the police and jail." What is the travesty here is the completely idiotic deadly weapon enhancement, not the assault charge. His attorney, undoubtedly an overworked, underpaid public defender for whom I have sympathy, still should have known better and beat the deadly weapon enhancement. </p>]]></description>
<author>Alberto Gonzalez</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/positively_ridiculous#c1026614</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/positively_ridiculous#c1026614</guid>
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<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 12:35:35 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by MarsAttack</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>I have to agree with the many of the posters here: the man lost my sympathy the second he actively tried to infect another person with HIV, regardless of how ineffective the attempt turned out to be. Though he may have used the wrong bodily fluid this time- who is to say that he wouldn't manage to get it right the next time?</p>

<p>I agree with Dan that it is not a good message to preach false facts: saliva does not, in fact, carry the disease. BUT: the intent was there, and that alone means this man deserves the jail time/psychiatric help.</p>]]></description>
<author>MarsAttack</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/positively_ridiculous#c1026619</link>
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<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 12:36:57 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by tiffany</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Absolutely shocking.</p>]]></description>
<author>tiffany</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/positively_ridiculous#c1026740</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/positively_ridiculous#c1026740</guid>
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<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 13:57:27 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by PC</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>@16<br />
we are not his defense lawyers and we find him guilty of trying to inflict fear of harm on someone just doing their job.  the perp is an asshole in other words.  and though the law says you can't bring in past charges many folks think the law is an asshole, too.  in every other arena of life we judge everyone based on their entire record of truthfulness and creaating havoc in general.  </p>]]></description>
<author>PC</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/positively_ridiculous#c1026747</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/positively_ridiculous#c1026747</guid>
<category>News</category>
<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 14:00:12 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by saxfanatic</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>I'm waiting for the new SPIKE TV reality cop show where a highly trained and well armed team of agents take down rude and unsightly homeless people. </p>]]></description>
<author>saxfanatic</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/positively_ridiculous#c1027061</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/positively_ridiculous#c1027061</guid>
<category>News</category>
<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 17:50:13 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Papayas</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>If I walk into a bank and tell people I have a gun (even if I don't), I should be charged.  If I walk into a bank and tell people that I'm going to shoot them with my balloon, I should be taken to a psych ward.  This guy belongs in a pysch ward.  In terms of homeless vs. jail, I've worked with homeless people who have gone to jail.  They say that jail is worse.  If homeless people want to be in jail, they would be committing crimes to get there.  This guy tried to avoid jail, which tells me he prefers homelessess.  I would choose homelessness, as do most of the homeless people in America.</p>]]></description>
<author>Papayas</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/positively_ridiculous#c1027073</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/positively_ridiculous#c1027073</guid>
<category>News</category>
<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 18:06:04 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Magic Lugee</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>So ... the absence of a deadly weapon has no bearing on a conviction for "harrassment with a deadly weapon."</p>

<p>It's obvious what happened.  He was a habitual offender, and the prosecutor's office saw an easy way of taking care of a problem.  </p>

<p>Only issue is, to do so, they charged the man with something of which he was innocent.  Saliva is not deadly.  They wouldn't have tried that on a first-time offender, because who sees the need for putting a first-time offender away for 35 years because he drunkenly spat at a cop? </p>

<p>Ridiculous.  Should have been thrown out.  I do have sympathy for him.  Obviously he was an asshole -- obviously he ruined some cops' day, and he's obviously habitually violent.  But 35 years for spitting at a man?</p>

<p>Talk about the invisible masses. </p>]]></description>
<author>Magic Lugee</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/positively_ridiculous#c1027091</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/positively_ridiculous#c1027091</guid>
<category>News</category>
<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 19:09:23 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by puzzlegal</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Saliva might not be deadly, but blood can carry HIV.  And if he's homeless, the odds are excellent that he has gum disease and there is blood in his saliva.  It was perfectly reasonable for a cop to be afraid of that.  </p>

<p>Seems to me that a guy who goes around making a credible threat of infecting someone with HIV is guilty of "harassment with a deadly weapon".</p>]]></description>
<author>puzzlegal</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/positively_ridiculous#c1027231</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/positively_ridiculous#c1027231</guid>
<category>News</category>
<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 21:23:09 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Mud Baby</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Given that it happened in Texas, the perp is lucky he wasn't sent to the chair...</p>]]></description>
<author>Mud Baby</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/positively_ridiculous#c1027292</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/positively_ridiculous#c1027292</guid>
<category>News</category>
<pubDate>Sun, 18 May 2008 15:02:47 -0800</pubDate>
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