Slog - Comments on Onward To the Rules & Bylaws Committee! http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/onward_to_the_rules_bylaws_committee Tomorrow Hillary Clinton takes her fantastic campaign voyage to the Rules & Bylaws Committee of the Democratic National Committee, which she hopes will resolve the Michigan and Florida mess in her favor and thus convince the country that she should be the nominee. As a general rule I'd say that when the fate of your campaign hinges on the vote of a committee within a committee, you're not in a good spot. Or maybe it just means you're a Democrat. In any case, here's a primer on what to expect.... Copyright 2008 Fri, 30 May 2008 09:30:56 -0800 Sat, 31 May 2008 11:58:31 -0800 http://www.movabletype.org/?v=3.34 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Comment by Cato the Younger Younger Whatever happens Terry McAuliffe will say that Hillary will be the nominee no matter what!

]]> Cato the Younger Younger http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/onward_to_the_rules_bylaws_committee#c1035327 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/onward_to_the_rules_bylaws_committee#c1035327 2008 Fri, 30 May 2008 09:39:54 -0800 Comment by montex Am I the only one who thinks the Rules Committee should simply enforce the rules? Why is it that Clinton feels the rules shouldn't apply to her? She was perfectly fine with the rules when she thought she had the nomination in the bag, but now that she has no other way to get the nomination she demands that they bend the rules JUST FOR HER.

Every day, Clinton supplies another reason why she is unfit for the office of the Presidency. No wonder she keeps praying for a spotlight to fall on Obama's head.

]]> montex http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/onward_to_the_rules_bylaws_committee#c1035336 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/onward_to_the_rules_bylaws_committee#c1035336 2008 Fri, 30 May 2008 10:01:35 -0800 Comment by daniel So I'm an Obama supporter and a fairish support of the "rules" but I can see one advantage of changing the rules and even seating all of the delegates: it means the end of Iowa and NH in 2012. What could the dems possibly do in 2012? Say: OK guys we REALLY mean it THIS TIME: no queue jumping. Maybe we could even have a national primary & just get this crap over with.

]]> daniel http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/onward_to_the_rules_bylaws_committee#c1035337 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/onward_to_the_rules_bylaws_committee#c1035337 2008 Fri, 30 May 2008 10:04:05 -0800 Comment by Original Monique Dear Hillary,

Please stop. You are losing credibility and empathy by the minute. Were you treated poorly by the media? Yes. Was there rampant sexism in this campaign? Yes. Does that mean you should keep at this horrible losing game, insulting the very voters that had confidence in you? No. Just stop. Please.

End the pettiness. End the stereotype. Just smile and wave and stump for Obama. I am sorry things didn't work out for you. I really am. I am sorry I probably won't see a woman president in my lifetime. I truly wish things had played out differently, that you had picked a better staff, that you hadn't made huge tactical errors throughout your campaign. You ruined your chances, you made the mistakes that cost you the nomination. I understand that is a bitter pill to swallow, but you must swallow it. It's your fault, and you need to grow up and take responsibilty. You aren't going to win.

Take the silver medal. This just wasn't your time sweetheart.

Hugs and Kisses,

Women everywhere

]]> Original Monique http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/onward_to_the_rules_bylaws_committee#c1035338 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/onward_to_the_rules_bylaws_committee#c1035338 2008 Fri, 30 May 2008 10:05:29 -0800 Comment by PC http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video_log/2008/05/obamas_church_back_in_the_news.html

Unity, unity rah rah rah!

]]> PC http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/onward_to_the_rules_bylaws_committee#c1035339 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/onward_to_the_rules_bylaws_committee#c1035339 2008 Fri, 30 May 2008 10:06:03 -0800 Comment by tsm Well said, OM@4, except that this ...

I am sorry I probably won't see a woman president in my lifetime.

is ridiculous, particularly because I know you're not a senior citizen. If you told people, in 2003, would believe that a black Illinois state legislator was to be the Democrats' nominee in 2008, how many would ask what you were smoking?

]]> tsm http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/onward_to_the_rules_bylaws_committee#c1035477 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/onward_to_the_rules_bylaws_committee#c1035477 2008 Fri, 30 May 2008 10:33:32 -0800 Comment by tsm Shit, let's try that again.

"If you told people, in 2003, that a black Illinois state legislator was to be the Democrats' nominee in 2008, how many would ask what you were smoking?"

]]> tsm http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/onward_to_the_rules_bylaws_committee#c1035483 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/onward_to_the_rules_bylaws_committee#c1035483 2008 Fri, 30 May 2008 10:34:38 -0800 Comment by RHETT ORACLE I agree with tsm that OM will see a woman president in her lifetime, but that woman will still have to wear heels and dance backward. Because that's how we are.

]]> RHETT ORACLE http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/onward_to_the_rules_bylaws_committee#c1035527 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/onward_to_the_rules_bylaws_committee#c1035527 2008 Fri, 30 May 2008 10:41:28 -0800 Comment by pox And if She doesn't get what She wants tomorrow, She can appeal to the Seating Committee, which doesn't meet until the convention. That way She gets a convention fight, in which all bets are off and all delegates are back on the table. That's the only way She has a greater than zero chance of being president, but will also doom the Democrats in November.

Raise your hand if you think Her loyalty to party and country is stronger than Her ambition and entitlement.

]]> pox http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/onward_to_the_rules_bylaws_committee#c1035600 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/onward_to_the_rules_bylaws_committee#c1035600 2008 Fri, 30 May 2008 10:51:08 -0800 Comment by RHETT ORACLE I know better than to omit a germane cultural reference:

The Boston Globe [obituaries]; 4/26/1995; Jay Carr, Globe Staff; Ginger Rogers, American movies' princess of dance...It read, "Everything Fred Astaire did, Ginger Rogers did backwards and in high heels."
]]> RHETT ORACLE http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/onward_to_the_rules_bylaws_committee#c1035604 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/onward_to_the_rules_bylaws_committee#c1035604 2008 Fri, 30 May 2008 10:52:00 -0800 Comment by elenchos Do we really need Hillary to stump for Obama? There must be some way to avoid that. Couldn't she just go away? I'm saying that because I picture her telling people to vote for him while we all know she thinks he only McCain is qualified to be President.

Wouldn't that make you feel dirty?

]]> elenchos http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/onward_to_the_rules_bylaws_committee#c1035614 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/onward_to_the_rules_bylaws_committee#c1035614 2008 Fri, 30 May 2008 10:53:00 -0800 Comment by keshmeshi @9,

I don't know about her loyalty to party and country, but if she takes this to the convention and loses, her political career will be over. I guess it depends whether she's willing to take that chance. Being a U.S. Senator is nothing to sneeze at. I guess we'll see whether she's willing to throw that in the garbage.

]]> keshmeshi http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/onward_to_the_rules_bylaws_committee#c1035644 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/onward_to_the_rules_bylaws_committee#c1035644 2008 Fri, 30 May 2008 10:58:32 -0800 Comment by arduous @12, eh. People have done way worse and lived to see their political career move on and up. Her political career wouldn't be over, not by a long shot.

]]> arduous http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/onward_to_the_rules_bylaws_committee#c1035694 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/onward_to_the_rules_bylaws_committee#c1035694 2008 Fri, 30 May 2008 11:08:11 -0800 Comment by w7ngman #6 re #7, what are *you* smoking?

]]> w7ngman http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/onward_to_the_rules_bylaws_committee#c1035733 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/onward_to_the_rules_bylaws_committee#c1035733 2008 Fri, 30 May 2008 11:16:15 -0800 Comment by Guillermo Brown The folks at iNewsTube.com are pointing out that Obama may have to give up all his FL delegates because of his violation of rule Rule 20 - Section C 1. b

http://inewstube.com/politics/may_31_dnc_rules_and_bylaws_meeting_preview_obama_may_be_forced_to_for feit_fl_delegates.html

]]> Guillermo Brown http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/onward_to_the_rules_bylaws_committee#c1035866 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/onward_to_the_rules_bylaws_committee#c1035866 2008 Fri, 30 May 2008 11:51:42 -0800 Comment by lol @15: Don't you mean "I", not "the folks at iNewsTube.com"?

Kind of the internet equivalent of attributing your own opinions to "some people say".

]]> lol http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/onward_to_the_rules_bylaws_committee#c1036630 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/onward_to_the_rules_bylaws_committee#c1036630 2008 Fri, 30 May 2008 16:23:36 -0800 Comment by Lee Gibson So, Senator Clinton has yet another rule that only applies to other people. Great.

So Obama has to forfeit all his Florida delegates. Since there AREN'T any Florida delegates, that's hardly a big deal, is it?

]]> Lee Gibson http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/onward_to_the_rules_bylaws_committee#c1037223 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/onward_to_the_rules_bylaws_committee#c1037223 2008 Sat, 31 May 2008 11:58:31 -0800