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<description>Barack Obama is leaving his church after another pastor made national news, this time with harsh words about Hillary Clinton. Which sets up the next chapter: Obama&apos;s election year search for a new spiritual home....</description>
<copyright>Copyright 2008</copyright>
<pubDate>Sat, 31 May 2008 16:50:16 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Balt-O-Matt</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps he can join that super-secret right wing prayer group that Hillary's a part of!</p>]]></description>
<author>Balt-O-Matt</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/odrama#c1037338</link>
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<pubDate>Sat, 31 May 2008 16:56:14 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by PopTart</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Hey, I wrote a post about this in the committee meeting post at 3:25pm. I didn't send in a Slog tip because I didn't think anybody was reading those, I thought putting it there would get it read quicker. </p>

<p>So, I was FIRST. If the Internet is a race, I won for once and I want credit!</p>

<p><br />
</p>]]></description>
<author>PopTart</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/odrama#c1037343</link>
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<pubDate>Sat, 31 May 2008 17:02:45 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Jessica</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>What a dumbfuck move on the part of the guest speaker.  I know that UUC has an open-pulpit policy (speakers can say things the congregation disagrees with), but after all the intense scrutiny of the last month or so, what kind of assclown gets up in (at this point) the most-watched pulpit in the nation and talks shit about "white privilege"?  </p>

<p>Jesus, this shit is irritating.  Like, so Hillary's basically out at this point, so SOMEONE has to take up the slack on the "stupid shit said" line?  Can't McCain's people do that, for once?</p>]]></description>
<author>Jessica</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/odrama#c1037355</link>
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<category>2008</category>
<pubDate>Sat, 31 May 2008 17:26:13 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by tsm</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>We'll get you a pint next Thursday at Smith as an award, @2.</p>]]></description>
<author>tsm</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/odrama#c1037356</link>
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<category>2008</category>
<pubDate>Sat, 31 May 2008 17:27:43 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Chris</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>I feel sorry for BHO. The media hounded him out of his own church. </p>]]></description>
<author>Chris</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/odrama#c1037362</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/odrama#c1037362</guid>
<category>2008</category>
<pubDate>Sat, 31 May 2008 17:42:18 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by CP</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>If he were a Republican (say, King Ronnie), he could just make Christian-ish noises in public, but not actually attend any particular church.</p>

<p>But he's not, so he must attend a church, and whatever church he chooses, the pissing upon will begin. And Michelle Malkin shall monitor the flock's scarf wearing next fall.</p>]]></description>
<author>CP</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/odrama#c1037364</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/odrama#c1037364</guid>
<category>2008</category>
<pubDate>Sat, 31 May 2008 17:53:03 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by skye</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>i wouldn't be entirely surprised if at some point we hear michelle obama watches rachael ray's 'cooking with terror' show.</p>]]></description>
<author>skye</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/odrama#c1037376</link>
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<category>2008</category>
<pubDate>Sat, 31 May 2008 18:10:27 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Cato the Younger Younger</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>I hear that Pastor Hagee is always accepting new members and "hunters" for God? </p>]]></description>
<author>Cato the Younger Younger</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/odrama#c1037378</link>
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<category>2008</category>
<pubDate>Sat, 31 May 2008 18:16:59 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by elswinger</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>If the priest had done it at another church (or the Apollo) it wouldn't be news.</p>

<p>If Obama weren't black the press would not be investigating his church.  What church does McCain go to, and if he doesn't go to a church, why not.</p>

<p>This seems to me, the first time that people care about what church people do.  They're both Christians so they should shut the fuck up.</p>]]></description>
<author>elswinger</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/odrama#c1037396</link>
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<category>2008</category>
<pubDate>Sat, 31 May 2008 19:04:54 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Mike in Iowa</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Thank GOD!!!!!!!!!!</p>]]></description>
<author>Mike in Iowa</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/odrama#c1037405</link>
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<category>2008</category>
<pubDate>Sat, 31 May 2008 19:20:15 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Chris in Tampa</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Ooh, he should pick the Church of Scientology!</p>]]></description>
<author>Chris in Tampa</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/odrama#c1037417</link>
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<category>2008</category>
<pubDate>Sat, 31 May 2008 20:10:37 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by The CHZA</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>I don't even think Obama is religious. Which is great, I just can't stand all of these moronic standards that are set up by the society/media nowadays. Flag, Jesus, Guns!</p>]]></description>
<author>The CHZA</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/odrama#c1037428</link>
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<category>2008</category>
<pubDate>Sat, 31 May 2008 20:38:12 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by rob</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>I hear the FLDS needs fresh blood. Plus the Obamas have a couple of young girls who would doubtless be a big hit there.</p>

<p>Seriously, it pisses me off so bad that the tight-sphincter brigades gave Reagan such a pass on churchgoing but they're all up in the Dems' shit about who and where and when. Why in, um, God's name can't people get that freedom of religion also includes freedom FROM religion?</p>]]></description>
<author>rob</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/odrama#c1037434</link>
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<category>2008</category>
<pubDate>Sat, 31 May 2008 21:09:06 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by NapoleonXIV</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Call me elitist, but all good cooking is done with terror.</p>

<p>Makes the meat tastier.  ;)</p>]]></description>
<author>NapoleonXIV</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/odrama#c1037436</link>
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<category>2008</category>
<pubDate>Sat, 31 May 2008 21:10:55 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by superyeadon</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>he needs to join the church of obama. it's been up and running for quite a while now.</p>]]></description>
<author>superyeadon</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/odrama#c1037443</link>
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<category>2008</category>
<pubDate>Sat, 31 May 2008 22:22:38 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by RainMan</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Actually there are some Christians for whom the Sermon on the Mount is more important than the Book of Leviticus.  Finally the monopoly over public discussion of religion in this country that the fundamentalist assholes have had for the last 30 years is coming to an end.</p>]]></description>
<author>RainMan</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/odrama#c1037456</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/odrama#c1037456</guid>
<category>2008</category>
<pubDate>Sat, 31 May 2008 23:47:23 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by LMSW</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>From the link.<br />
“When Hillary was crying, and people said that was put on — I really don’t believe it was put on,” said Father Pfleger, 59, the white pastor of a predominantly black South Side church. “I really believe that she just always thought: ‘This is mine. I’m Bill’s wife, I’m white and this is mine. I just got to get up and step into the plate.’ And then, out of nowhere, came, ‘Hey, I’m Barack Obama.’ And she said, ‘Oh, damn. Where did you come from? I’m white. I’m entitled. There’s a black man stealing my show.”</p>

<p>Father Pfleger, a well-known longtime activist and friend of Mr. Obama, issued an apology late Thursday. “I regret the words I chose on Sunday. These words are inconsistent with Senator Obama’s life and message, and I am deeply sorry if they offended Senator Clinton or anyone else who saw them.”</p>

<p>What a half-assed apology, typical of yet another wannabe religious political figure. <br />
He regrets his choice of words, rather than the meaning of the words. Thus, it becomes a seemingly minor matter regarding his choice of words and these words resultant meaning which are inconsistent with Obama's life and message rather than Pfleger's intended message, which is not referred to or regretted.</p>

<p>By finishing with the requisite "I'm sorry if they" (the words, not himself) "offended Senator Clinton", he avoids owning the intention and apologizing to Clinton and "anyone else who saw them". By using this end tag of "anyone else who saw them" he <br />
further minimizes his ownership of the words by limiting his partial apology someone he doesn't like (clinton) and to people who might have seen the words rather than read or heard the words.</p>

<p>However, in doing so he obliquely refers to the some of the most damaging aspects of his speech, which are the visible and contextual components of his performance. This performance is akin to a white minstrel show whereupon a white actor wearing a collar cavorts about like a funny white person in drag for an approving black audience. Owww. With friends like this...  No wonder Obama is distancing himself from this loose cannon church.</p>]]></description>
<author>LMSW</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/odrama#c1037459</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/odrama#c1037459</guid>
<category>2008</category>
<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 00:03:29 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by fluteprof</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>About f-ing time.</p>]]></description>
<author>fluteprof</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/odrama#c1037517</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/odrama#c1037517</guid>
<category>2008</category>
<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 09:05:17 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by kim</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>how long before obama's disassociation with his christian church gets spun by some idiot as proof of his affiliation with islam? what a non-issue/ridiculous drama.</p>]]></description>
<author>kim</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/odrama#c1037749</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/odrama#c1037749</guid>
<category>2008</category>
<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 09:46:59 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by BC</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Obama is finally behaving like what he is:  a Democrat politician out to win at any cost. What matters a 'church' when one has already made his pact with Faust?</p>]]></description>
<author>BC</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/odrama#c1037921</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/odrama#c1037921</guid>
<category>2008</category>
<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 12:34:54 -0800</pubDate>
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