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<description>I have no love for Alice Walker. The best thing to come out of her vapid career is a movie based on her most famous book. The director of Jaws can place his interpretation of Walker&apos;s novel in the list of his five most important works. His film is yet another piece of evidence for those who correctly argue that a good movie is more likely to come from a weak novel than a strong one. Walker owes her entire value as an artist to this movie. Upon reading this article yesterday morning, my dislike of Alice Walker&apos;s work was...</description>
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<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 10:33:54 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by mj</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Obviously I'm missing the deeper meaning of this post!<br />
Or perhaps in my simplistic way of seeing things you are saying the daughter should just buck up and handle it and stop complaining, thats life!</p>]]></description>
<author>mj</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/mothers_and_daughters#c1015573</link>
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<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 10:30:19 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Mr. Poe</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>What the fuck? You're an idiot, Charles.</p>]]></description>
<author>Mr. Poe</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/mothers_and_daughters#c1015576</link>
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<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 10:30:48 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Some Other Joe</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Charles,</p>

<p>A lot of what you write I like; some of what you write I disagree with. Generally though, I respect you. However, I do not respect passive aggressive. </p>

<p>Please, more Philosophy, Marxism and Dutch architecture.</p>]]></description>
<author>Some Other Joe</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/mothers_and_daughters#c1015594</link>
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<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 10:36:20 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Rotten666</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>huh?</p>]]></description>
<author>Rotten666</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/mothers_and_daughters#c1015605</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/mothers_and_daughters#c1015605</guid>
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<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 10:39:35 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Breklor</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I hate abused children too.  All that deriving of power from mistreatment, using people to beat and rape them just so they can build up their resentment and control the world.</p>]]></description>
<author>Breklor</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/mothers_and_daughters#c1015624</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/mothers_and_daughters#c1015624</guid>
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<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 10:43:55 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Catman</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Rebecca Walker is a fucking bitch! I met her and had to escort her around my university for her lecture, and she was pissed because women of color ignored her publicity and dit not attend her talk. Instead, it was filled with white sorority girl types, and that pissed her off.</p>]]></description>
<author>Catman</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/mothers_and_daughters#c1015639</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/mothers_and_daughters#c1015639</guid>
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<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 10:45:43 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by kat</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Ease up on the hate Charles.  It'll do your body good.</p>]]></description>
<author>kat</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/mothers_and_daughters#c1015662</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/mothers_and_daughters#c1015662</guid>
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<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 10:50:57 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Karlheinz Arschbomber</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>I'm solidly in the anti-Charles camp, normally, but I get what he's saying here.   Chill, Slogpuppies!</p>]]></description>
<author>Karlheinz Arschbomber</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/mothers_and_daughters#c1015678</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/mothers_and_daughters#c1015678</guid>
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<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 10:55:11 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Jimmy</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>I'd say Charles nailed it:</p>

<p>Ressentiment is a sense of resentment and hostility directed at that which one identifies as the cause of one's frustration, an assignation of blame for one's frustration. The sense of weakness or inferiority and perhaps jealousy in the face of the "cause" generates a rejecting/justifying value system, or morality, which attacks or denies the perceived source of one's frustration. <b>The ego creates an enemy, to insulate itself from culpability.</b></p>]]></description>
<author>Jimmy</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/mothers_and_daughters#c1015681</link>
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<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 10:57:08 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Hartiepie</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>I have worked with teen moms and they tell me that is often why they had children -- they were alone and they wanted someone to love who would love them back. They thought a baby would do the trick. Even if it's not accurate, it's pretty simple teen thinking really.</p>

<p>I really don't know what you are on about Charles.</p>]]></description>
<author>Hartiepie</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/mothers_and_daughters#c1015693</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/mothers_and_daughters#c1015693</guid>
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<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 11:00:04 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by josh bomb</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>charles, this may be the best thing i've ever read.</p>]]></description>
<author>josh bomb</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/mothers_and_daughters#c1015731</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/mothers_and_daughters#c1015731</guid>
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<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 11:12:58 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Fnarf</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>"Swamp creatures" may be a little heavy-handed, but he's sort of right. It's not that this woman's story isn't more or less true, for her, but it sounds like pretty ordinary dim-bulb therapy-session stuff, not a book that sentient adults should be reading.</p>]]></description>
<author>Fnarf</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/mothers_and_daughters#c1015737</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/mothers_and_daughters#c1015737</guid>
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<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 11:16:00 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by keshmeshi</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>@10,</p>

<p>How did they deal with it when their kids inevitably turned into ungrateful shitheads?</p>]]></description>
<author>keshmeshi</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/mothers_and_daughters#c1015757</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/mothers_and_daughters#c1015757</guid>
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<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 11:23:30 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by TheEditorYouNeed</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Yes, clearly the stuff of greatness is not Rebecca's garbage but Charles' trashing - slithering and hissing indeed. If "All of their strength is drawn from the one they despise," Becky has made a man out of you. Alas, if only should could have made you a writer, too. </p>]]></description>
<author>TheEditorYouNeed</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/mothers_and_daughters#c1015807</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/mothers_and_daughters#c1015807</guid>
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<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 11:37:51 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by -B-</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Ok Charles I get it already. You hate women that are not just sex objects.<br />
</p>]]></description>
<author>-B-</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/mothers_and_daughters#c1015809</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/mothers_and_daughters#c1015809</guid>
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<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 11:38:20 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Fnarf</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>No, -B- -- it is Rebecca Walker who is nothing but a sex object. I'm sure Charles has no trouble with women who are adept creative artists.</p>]]></description>
<author>Fnarf</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/mothers_and_daughters#c1015859</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/mothers_and_daughters#c1015859</guid>
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<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 11:55:09 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Deeply Depressed</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>My respect for black female literati (walker, angelou, morrison) has declined over the years and I've come to see most of them as intelectualy empty. They paved the way for the crap we see now from writers like Zane.</p>]]></description>
<author>Deeply Depressed</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/mothers_and_daughters#c1015887</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/mothers_and_daughters#c1015887</guid>
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<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 12:02:03 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Deeply Depressed</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>My respect for black female literati (walker, angelou, morrison) has declined over the years and I've come to see most of them as intelectualy empty. They paved the way for the crap we see now from writers like Zane.</p>]]></description>
<author>Deeply Depressed</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/mothers_and_daughters#c1015891</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/mothers_and_daughters#c1015891</guid>
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<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 12:02:50 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by SeMe</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>is she hot?</p>

<p>forget resentment, revenge is where its at.</p>]]></description>
<author>SeMe</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/mothers_and_daughters#c1015917</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/mothers_and_daughters#c1015917</guid>
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<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 12:13:12 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Some Other Joe</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Really,</p>

<p>Am I the only one who thought that last paragraph was aimed more at the Charles haters than at Rebecca herself?</p>]]></description>
<author>Some Other Joe</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/mothers_and_daughters#c1015918</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/mothers_and_daughters#c1015918</guid>
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<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 12:13:53 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by swamp creatures???? wow.</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>this post is ridiculous.  relationships between mothers and daughters are extraordinarily complex.  charles, what an ignorant, arrogant perspective.   get some help for your attitude toward women.</p>]]></description>
<author>swamp creatures???? wow.</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/mothers_and_daughters#c1015934</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/mothers_and_daughters#c1015934</guid>
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<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 12:20:38 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by swamp creatures???? wow.</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>this post is ridiculous.  relationships between mothers and daughters are extraordinarily complex.  charles, what an ignorant, arrogant perspective.   get some help for your attitude toward women.</p>]]></description>
<author>swamp creatures???? wow.</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/mothers_and_daughters#c1015936</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/mothers_and_daughters#c1015936</guid>
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<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 12:20:52 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by michael strangeways</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Rebecca Walker IS awful and she's not a pathetic, abused victim of anything. She's spent her entire adult life exploiting her mother in one form or the other. Alice Walker wasn't a perfect mother, but Rebecca Walker is the perfect example of a monster daughter.</p>]]></description>
<author>michael strangeways</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/mothers_and_daughters#c1015973</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/mothers_and_daughters#c1015973</guid>
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<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 12:30:04 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by elswinger</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>No more wire coat hangers!</p>]]></description>
<author>elswinger</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/mothers_and_daughters#c1016027</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/mothers_and_daughters#c1016027</guid>
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<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 12:44:42 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by CA</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Rebecca seems to be articulating similar feelings to that of what Julian Lennon has said about his father.  Great, charismatic artists dont always make great parents.    </p>]]></description>
<author>CA</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/mothers_and_daughters#c1016075</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/mothers_and_daughters#c1016075</guid>
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<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 13:01:19 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Fnarf</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, John Lennon was an asshole. Julian should be telling it to his therapist and not selling it to us. If your abuse, and your relationship to the famous person, becomes your source of income, you're never going to get rid of it.</p>]]></description>
<author>Fnarf</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/mothers_and_daughters#c1016206</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/mothers_and_daughters#c1016206</guid>
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<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 13:59:31 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by David E.</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>I like that you take Nietzsche's analysis of a <i>cultural</i> tendency/phenomenon of post-Enlightenment society and apply it to a single individual.  Well played, sir.</p>]]></description>
<author>David E.</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/mothers_and_daughters#c1016220</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/mothers_and_daughters#c1016220</guid>
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<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 14:03:18 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by mj</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>@26 You're so right and made a great a point.</p>

<p>It kind makes the abuse become your whole identity! It's better to let go and move on.</p>

<p>It's make what Charles said true, If the one she despises is weak, she too is weak.<br />
It's just all kind of sick.</p>]]></description>
<author>mj</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/mothers_and_daughters#c1016319</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/mothers_and_daughters#c1016319</guid>
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<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 14:39:52 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by the child speaks</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Interesting how she's now blamed for exploiting her Mother's fame when from her autobiography it appears it's the Mother and Father who failed her.</p>

<p>Children don't give a rat's ass about the "work" famous parents (and their fans)  consciously of unconsciously imagine justifies the emotional neglect of offspring, and why should they? But they will carry the psychic disruption of this neglect for the rest of their lives. </p>

<p>I say let her speak as she sees fit. Who are any of you to say otherwise? Only then can the parent's work be fully known. </p>]]></description>
<author>the child speaks</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/mothers_and_daughters#c1016567</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/mothers_and_daughters#c1016567</guid>
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<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 16:51:57 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Fnarf</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>The parent's life failings don't say anything at all about the work. The work stands on its own. If you need the author's biography to understand the work you're either not really reading it, or it's not art.</p>]]></description>
<author>Fnarf</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/mothers_and_daughters#c1016590</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/mothers_and_daughters#c1016590</guid>
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<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 17:02:36 -0800</pubDate>
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