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Wednesday, May 7, 2008

It’s Over, Hillary

posted by on May 7 at 8:55 AM

Me, on the all-powerful Slog yesterday evening:

It’s over. Either she just doesn’t know it yet, or she just doesn’t care.

Tim Russert, later in the evening:

We now know who the Democratic nominee’s going to be, and no one’s going to dispute it.

Bob Franken, a couple of hours later:

Let’s put it right on the table: It’s over. It’s over.

George Stephanopoulos this morning:

This nomination fight is over.

Bob Shrum, this morning:

The campaign may go on but the contest is now over: Obama is the Democratic nominee for president. Now the decision for her is how she wants to end this.

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1

You forgot to quote me.

Posted by Mr. Poe | May 7, 2008 9:04 AM
2

"You forgot to quote me" - Mr. Poe

Posted by Bellevue Ave | May 7, 2008 9:08 AM
3

What changed for these people since, oh, March?

Posted by w7ngman | May 7, 2008 9:08 AM
4

As goes Erica C. Barnett, so goes the media.

Posted by minderbender | May 7, 2008 9:12 AM
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at this point i think she doesn't care...i don't know if she knows how to stop

Posted by Jiberish | May 7, 2008 9:14 AM
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Great. The more they say that, the more her and her supporters' stubborn impulses will kick in and compel her to stick around.

Posted by tsm | May 7, 2008 9:26 AM
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Everyone is saying it. Everyone looks at the stats. Noone will believe it until she announces she will do it.

It is like everyone in the country sees the logic but she fails to, and she has some kind of invisible grip on the country to hold them hostage.

It is a very telling example of how fucked up our country is that we allow someone as blindly destructive to our politics to continue this charade.

The media is eating up the controversy. "Will She?" "Won't She?" What is the math? They turned this nomination into a MTV Grudge match Super Bowl, and turned the Democratic nomination process into a farce.

Fuzzy math, rules get changed, Super Delegates get extra special power...

This is a democracy that we allow to exist?

Posted by Reality Check | May 7, 2008 9:27 AM
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The look on their faces is beautiful.

Posted by Alan | May 7, 2008 9:32 AM
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Sad, but true.

Posted by boxofbirds | May 7, 2008 9:39 AM
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Narcissists can't stop.

Only the money, or the lack thereof, will stop her.

Posted by max solomon | May 7, 2008 9:45 AM
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One of the oddities here is that usually Quixotic candidates are there to bring issues to the table that nobody would ever discuss, like a Department of Peace or getting back on the gold standard. But Hillary is out there campaigning pointlessly on the most moderate, familiar, mainstream, predictable set of positions you could ever dream of.

Posted by elenchos | May 7, 2008 9:57 AM
12

Hillary has become that crazy lady on the street corner who lives alone with 34 cats and the odd ball lizard roaming around her home. They will pull her out after she is living knee deep in cat shit.

Expect McCain to pick Hillary as his running mate by June 3 2008.

McCain / Clinton 2008!!!!

Posted by Cato the Younger Younger | May 7, 2008 9:58 AM
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Damn. After seeing that look on Bill's face I almost feel sorry for her. I always liked Bill Clinton despite his flaws, and it's been heartbreaking watching him wallow in the muck and mud to help Hillary. But they both brought this upon themselves when they adopted Rovian tactics to smear Obama. But it didn't work and I'm thrilled about that.

Posted by montex | May 7, 2008 10:00 AM
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Wait - did Ben Smith and Sullivan say it's over? You can't call it without quoting them.

Posted by hairyson | May 7, 2008 10:04 AM
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@ 12: You have a problem with 34 cats?

Posted by crazycatguy | May 7, 2008 10:40 AM
16

A few of my friends are still in denial on this one.

Posted by Will in Seattle | May 7, 2008 11:01 AM
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My goddamn neighbor has at least 34 cats. The whole neighborhood smells like cat piss.

Posted by KeeKee | May 7, 2008 11:12 AM
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@17 .... uh ... WTF?

Posted by Will in Seattle | May 7, 2008 12:05 PM
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"You forgot to quote me" - Mr. Poe

That was a very interesting point, Bellevue Ave.

Posted by Will in Seattle | May 7, 2008 12:07 PM
20

Boxers & politicians usually smile the biggest right before they get knocked out.

Congrats to the Blue Bloods on their latest reincarnation of George McGovern.

Posted by quin | May 7, 2008 12:19 PM
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Boxers & politicians usually smile the biggest right before they get knocked out.

Congrats to the Blue Bloods on their latest reincarnation of George McGovern.

Posted by quin | May 7, 2008 12:20 PM
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Boxers & politicians usually smile the biggest right before they get knocked out.

Congrats to the Blue Bloods on their latest reincarnation of George McGovern.

Posted by quin | May 7, 2008 12:20 PM
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Hillary is the commensurate strategist (which is something I have always liked about her -- she is always looking to pull out some kind of victory even in defeat).

You can bet she is looking at negotiating some other power position or concessions from her pledged delegate, from Obama, from Howard Dean and the DNC, etc. to drop out now and not take this through until June.

It might be an ask about the VP position, it might be a pledge to give her the Senate Majority Leader position, Secretary of Education, Secretary of State. Who knows?

Anyway, she is in a power position as the probable loser but b/c it is not yet over she has a short window to find he victory in defeat. And, in my opinion, I think she'd be great in any of those positions.

She is a bad ass!

Posted by Shark Attack | May 7, 2008 1:20 PM
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The simple reality is that NEITHER Clinton or Obama can lock up the nom solely on elected delegates at this point (assuming MI & FL don't get tossed into the soup at some point), and Hil's early muscling to get superdelegates to commit to her is what's kept her in this long.

While there have been a handful of defections, and while many of the uncommitted's may be leaning towards Obama at this point, it's going to take a mass wave of Obama committments from the remaining supers to finally convince Hil that she's not going to win; otherwise, she's going to stay in no matter what, even if it means slugging it out on the convention floor.

One thing you can say for her: she's no quitter, and I think that sense of fighting to the end, even against overwhelming odds does in fact appeal to many voters - and may well appeal to many currently uncommitted delegates as well.

Posted by COMTE | May 7, 2008 1:29 PM
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Personally, I think this whole narrative of it being so awful that the nominee hasn't been decided before the convention is ridiculous. Conventions used to be where the candidates were finally decided, but in the last few contests, we've allowed them to become coronations. All this drama about how things should have been/need to be wrapped up is simply a media creation to get people to continue consuming their product (i.e., all the punditocracy's analyses, etc. that go beyond the basic facts of who won where, etc.). It's not the nomination battle itself that is the problem, it's how both sides (but particularly Clinton's -- I'm an Obama supporter, full disclosure) have been carrying out their campaigns. If they were dealing with substantive issues in a civil manner instead of fear-mongering with 3 AM ads, etc., it wouldn't matter how long things went on, because they wouldn't be giving the GOP any ammunition for the general. But alas, I am likely just whistling in the dark here.

Posted by bookworm | May 7, 2008 2:15 PM

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