Slog - Comments on Issuing Marriage Licenses to Gay Couples the Moral Equivalent of Gassing Jews

Comment by Mike in MO

Mike in MO — Thu, 22 May 2008 09:56:17 -0800

woah! that is some serious hyperbole!

Comment by Sparky

Sparky — Thu, 22 May 2008 09:57:15 -0800

It's a gay Auschwitz threat!

Comment by Cato the Younger Younger

Cato the Younger Younger — Thu, 22 May 2008 09:58:25 -0800

In case you have not figured it out: The GOP's total stratagy for 2008 is make liberals the same as Nazi's. Just take a look at what has been going on: Bush and his appeasement speach in Isreal, and now this.

Expect Obama to have a doctored picture of him with a Charlie Chaplin mustache anytime.

Comment by COMTE

COMTE — Thu, 22 May 2008 10:03:56 -0800

That has to be one of the most patently OFFENSIVE statements I think I've ever read!

Equating the desire for two adults to engage in a social contract that allows them to share legal, financial and social rights, responsibilities and obligations, with the brutal execution of six million jews, gypsies, gays (!), and other "undesirables" is reprehensible almost beyond comprehension.

Those of you who profess "Christian Values", but who disagree with these unambiguously bigoted, hateful purveyors of filth need to stand up and let your fellow "believers" know, in no uncertain terms, that this is unacceptible, and will NOT be tolerated.

Comment by also

also — Thu, 22 May 2008 10:08:57 -0800

It's not offensive, it's funny and self-destructive. By making themselves laughingstocks, Save California is doing their part to push everyone who's not utterly psychotic over to the side of marriage equality. We should be thanking them!

Comment by Abby

Abby — Thu, 22 May 2008 10:15:57 -0800

The Internet is escaping into real life...

Comment by The Artist Formerly Known As Sigourney Beaver

The Artist Formerly Known As Sigourney Beaver — Thu, 22 May 2008 10:20:43 -0800

But Pastor Hagee said the Nazis were a god-sent force for good. I'm confused.

Comment by PopTart

PopTart — Thu, 22 May 2008 10:30:16 -0800

Marriage is equivalent to death?

Comment by Kalakalot

Kalakalot — Thu, 22 May 2008 10:32:48 -0800

I'm with also @ 5. This is great. If the wingnuts are reduced to risable arguments like this, they must be seriously running out of ammunition.

Comment by Jake

Jake — Thu, 22 May 2008 10:54:05 -0800

If your pastor stood at the pulpit and ordered you to wait outside gay bars and beat up faggots, would you?

Comment by Mike of Renton

Mike of Renton — Thu, 22 May 2008 11:05:49 -0800

Wow, apparently Moore's Law and Godwin's Law are merging into one.

As a discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches one. The length of the discussion needed to approach one will shrink by 50% every year.

Comment by MarsAttack

MarsAttack — Thu, 22 May 2008 11:24:06 -0800

Horrifying. . . . I have no words. No words.

Well, other than to say that whoever wrote that has completely mocked the persecution, pain, and suffering of six million jews, blacks, gays, and other "undesirables" labeled such by the Nazi agenda. That is by far one of the most offensive thing I've heard yet.

Comment by Will in Seattle

Will in Seattle — Thu, 22 May 2008 11:25:30 -0800

The amusing part is when Communists like the GOP try to call liberals Nazis.

I mean, seriously?

Comment by Breklor

Breklor — Thu, 22 May 2008 11:30:13 -0800

Oh man, I so call Godwin on that shit.

Comment by inkweary

inkweary — Thu, 22 May 2008 11:48:06 -0800

They also reference the Dred Scott case which defedned the property rights of slave owners. It is very odd that they are using examples of heinous civil rights violations to deny civil rights to a group they don't like.

Comment by Fire with fire

Fire with fire — Thu, 22 May 2008 12:05:16 -0800

Where's the best place to send money to help defeat their godawful anti-marriage ammendment? The forces of good on this issue need our money now.

Comment by Westside forever

Westside forever — Thu, 22 May 2008 12:09:03 -0800

Man, the Xtian wingnuts are really getting desperate. Won't it be interesting when they finally turn to actual terrorism. Gitmo's going to get some bible thumpers to put next to the Koran nuts!

Comment by Vince

Vince — Thu, 22 May 2008 12:17:34 -0800

They are desperate to get out the zealots in this election. This is the revolting non-sense they resort to because these people aren't motivated by John McLame.

Comment by T.G.

T.G. — Thu, 22 May 2008 12:22:38 -0800

What? Like you are all surprised at a comment like this? This is yet another symptom of the dumbing down of public discourse. Hardly surprising after the last 8 years.

Comment by catnextdoor

catnextdoor — Thu, 22 May 2008 12:26:35 -0800

fucking dirtbags.

Comment by edsbowlingshoe

edsbowlingshoe — Thu, 22 May 2008 12:41:02 -0800

Someone should blast some crabgas on the Save California folks.

Comment by Bruce Garrett

Bruce Garrett — Thu, 22 May 2008 13:31:46 -0800

Ask yourself if any of the morally righteous folks over at Save California would have refused to sign an order sending a gay man to the concentration camps. Go ahead. Try not to laugh.

Comment by Bruce Garrett

Bruce Garrett — Thu, 22 May 2008 14:34:48 -0800

And...I see they're invoking Dred Scott too. I have a question. Why do you never see these groups invoking Plessy v. Ferguson as an example of bad law that should be civilly disobeyed?

I know...I know...

Comment by TheyHaveOnePoint

TheyHaveOnePoint — Thu, 22 May 2008 15:30:38 -0800

"Save California" has a point in that the California Supreme Court is expressly prohibited by their constitution from making law. Assuming the Court has a valid constitutional argument against the marriage restriction, instead of extending the marriage laws to gays they should have struck down California's marriage laws altogether.

Comment by Dean P

Dean P — Thu, 22 May 2008 18:07:57 -0800

Um, TheyHaveOnePoint, do you have any idea what you're talking about? The Court didn't make law. It found the prohibition unconstitutional. If that's the same as making law, then the Court couldn't do anything.

Comment by Alex

Alex — Thu, 22 May 2008 20:41:06 -0800

24: The CA Supreme Court found that baning gay marriage violated both the liberty and equality rights as outlined in that state's constitution: a fact that was stated in just about every news article on the ruling. The decision explicitly parallels the US Supreme Court's ruling in Loving v. Virgina--do you feel that the federal SC should have struck down all state's marriage laws, rather than (as they did) extend them fairly to everyone?

I do believe that getting the government out of the marriage business is an idea with some merit, since a lot of the strife around this area stems from the fact that marriage is the name both for a civil institution and a religious sacrament. Calling the piece of paper the government gives you something else would eliminate the argument that churches should have some say in who can have a civil marriage and who can't. But that *would* be creating a new law, which is something no court can do, so it wasn't an option for the CA court.

Comment by Ivan

Ivan — Fri, 23 May 2008 08:37:48 -0800

They're just trying to protect gays from the horrors of marriage that they themselves are experiencing. It's the ultimate Christian act of selflessness. How can you not see that?

Comment by Eric Peters

Eric Peters — Fri, 23 May 2008 10:37:05 -0800

Bible-banging Jesus Nazis and other Kooky Konsherdative Khristians have used this kind of rhetoric before. One appropriate response would be to look in the Yellow Pages and call your local Assemblies of God, Vineyard, Southern Baptist or Church of the Nazarene congregation and just ask them how many child-molesting Christo-fascists they have guarding their nurseries. Then send some money to your local UCC, MCC or welcoming Episcopalian, United Methodist, Roman Catholic, ELCA Lutheran, PCUSA Presbyterian or Disciples of Christ Christian church or to Harry Knox at HRC or the Institute of Welcoming Resources (despite its record of wrongful discrimination on other grounds) at the National Gay and Lesbian Task Force.

Comment by kat

kat — Fri, 23 May 2008 16:09:17 -0800

Alex,
As good an idea as that is and how nice it sounds, Christians would never go for it. You'd have to pry the word marriage out of their cold, dead fingers.

Comment by Jon

Jon — Fri, 23 May 2008 19:13:07 -0800

Hey, It's like, marriage is a gas, man.

Comment by Nico

Nico — Fri, 23 May 2008 19:32:46 -0800

This just betrays how stupid conservatives really are. The Nazis didn't just persecute Jews. They persecuted gypsies, Jehovah's Witnesses and HOMOSEXUALS. If anyone can be compared to the Nazis, it's the people who want to deprive homosexuals of the basic dignity of rights accorded to all human beings.

Comment by Bob S. Laquer

Bob S. Laquer — Fri, 23 May 2008 22:59:54 -0800

OOhhh...words are dangerous around here. The people who expressed their opinions have a right to do so. At least for now. So what if you or I do not like what they have to say. But it worked. It got the attention of myself and scores of others.

Comment by queerunity

queerunity — Sat, 24 May 2008 14:01:42 -0800

these comments are BEYOND insane
http://www.queersunited.blogspot.com

Comment by John

John — Sat, 24 May 2008 14:56:38 -0800

Does anyone see hypocrasy in those lines?

The person who wrote that is persecuting Gays and Lesbians like the Nazi's were persecuting Jews.

Gays and Lesbians in America are also becoming a scapegoat to the moral decay as well as the economic downfall of the United States.
Jews were also a scapegoat to the economic decline of Germany.

Those who are persecuting the LGBT community are the Nazi's. Not those who identify themselves with the LGBT.

If this person wants to bring up parallels between Nazi's and Jews versus Conservatives and the LGBT Community, they should realize who is persecuting whom.

Comment by gryph

gryph — Mon, 26 May 2008 07:39:28 -0800

It looks like they took that passage down and replaced it with a slightly less offensive one.

Comment by Thomas Mc

Thomas Mc — Mon, 26 May 2008 08:35:36 -0800

The Nazis sure do like to talk about gassing people, don't they?

Comment by kh

kh — Mon, 26 May 2008 11:42:31 -0800

"Ask your county clerk if they were a Nazi officer during WWII and had been ordered to gas the Jews, would they?"

Nevermind anything else: is this even a grammatical sentence?

It seems symptomatic of schizophrenia to me.