ECB is a tool!

She's a woman, apparently that's enough for ECB, the issues she supports are completely irrelevant.

But you have to face up to the fact that you're just really, really, really bad at this. I know there are other, quieter Hillary fans around at the Stranger. Perhaps you might ask them to take on the Hillary shilling (Shillarying?), since they couldn't possibly do a worse job of it than you have.

The only good thing to come if it was this: http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/index.jhtml?videoId=166514&title=blanguage

BTW, guys, have you seen that e-mail going around proving Obama is a Muslim? It's so scary! I'll post more about it later today!!

Don't act like you don't feel the same way I do.

Can you find a similar (supposedly unconscious) mannerism in umpteen hours of pre-existing Obama tape?

Can you find a similar instance of a dramatic pause around a scratch or other unconscious gesture?

Not only is this total bullshit, it is old bullshit.

Sad, really sad.

We all know that you read the comments to your posts constantly. It's time for you to put up an update and admit you were wrong or link to the MyDD post about this.

Dated, factually incorrect, debunked, lame bullshit. Period.

And still desperate for something - anything - anything at all to attack him on.

Give up Hils, you lost.

Stop pushing attack vids that McCain staffers and financial supporters sent you ...

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Erica wins.

An Internet troll, or simply troll in Internet slang, is someone who posts controversial and usually irrelevant or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum, with the intention of baiting other users into an emotional response[1] to generally disrupt normal on-topic discussion.[2] or to support Hillary's sinking candidacy [3]

Are there any tactics of the right Clinton supporters aren't willing to use?

If you've been following election results in the UK, you'll see what happens to left-leaning parties that try to mimic their right-wing opponents: they lose.

If so, how do you explain the shadow of his index finger tip projected on the same cheek, distant from the finger tip itself?

Which one of us is descending into madness here?

RonK, once you actually type out a sentence like this in earnest, and think it's making a meaningful point, it's a sign that it's time for you to step away from the keyboard and the political blogs for a little while and regain perspective.

Ron, I'm telling you this as someone who has met you and has even had nice conversations with you in the past. Please see a mental health specialist as soon as you can and deal with whatever is going on inside your head right now. You are not in a good place and you need help. I'm sorry if I've made jokes about it. I will stop. Just get the help you need.

Do you have an explanation? Or do you not?

Is it significant that Obamanaists can almost universally convince themselves of this physically impossible interpretation? Might it cast doubt on their collective interpretation of other information?

Note to readers: Lee/thehim and I intersect in some interests, worthy causes and social circles, but I have never considered him a person of sound mind or judgment. He has previously exhibited a faith in his determination of others' beliefs, attitudes and mental states at a distance and without evidence, and his attempts at explicit reasoning from evidence are not much more impressive.

PS and if he did it on purpose, rock the fuck on. When did the Stranger start hiring uptight soap-mouthed prudes?

I simply noted that the photo "two finger scratch" photo indisputably portrays a one-finger scratch.

Is that premise now granted? If it is, we can proceed with the analysis. If it's not (and I believe you'll find most Obamanaists, against the evidence, will not grant this premise), then we're not operating in the realm of physically realistic interpretation, are we?

Um, I think it's safe to say you've asserted it. Otherwise, why the fuck would be arguing about the shadow of his finger?

Is that premise now granted? If it is, we can proceed with the analysis.

Please get help.

That doesn't fully explain why you repeatedly come out of an exchange thinking the people who disagree with you must be crazy, but it helps.

As for the argument in progress, it stands unrefuted but uncompleted. Maybe someone familiar with principles of evidence and inference (Golob?) would like to take a stepwise stab at discourse over what can and can't be determined from the information at hand.

Dude, you're full on bonkers. The argument you're making isn't even in the neighborhood of sane.

As for the argument in progress, it stands unrefuted but uncompleted. Maybe someone familiar with principles of evidence and inference (Golob?) would like to take a stepwise stab at discourse over what can and can't be determined from the information at hand.

Something tells me Jonathan has more important things to do.

BTW, here's a good clip from The Daily Show making fun of this.

Wow. Ok.

Can you find a similar (supposedly unconscious) mannerism in umpteen hours of pre-existing Obama tape?

Can you find a similar instance of a dramatic pause around a scratch or other unconscious gesture?

Why even bring this up then? Are you trying to say it was a meaningful gesture or not?

Yeah, MyDD did say he scratched with two fingers. Who cares. They made a mistake. If you read the original DailyKos diary, it says nothing of the sort. Either you believe Obama flipped Hillary off, or you believe the alternate angle showing that he doesn't. Quibbling over whether two fingers contacted his face is pointless.

Clinton, on the other hand, constantly gives huge swaths of the country the finger by claiming that legitimate caucuses (including ours) don't count, that any state where she doesn't win is full of effete, latte-drinking snobs, that we're "boutique" states, etc. Clinton's campaign constantly insults not only the people who didn't vote for her, but her own supporters if they happen to live in states where she didn't win.

If you're going to take offense at something, I'd choose that over Obama's phantom finger.