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<title>Slog - Comments on Hillary&apos;s Sabotaged Campaign Ad</title>
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<description>Ru-roh. Someone doesn&apos;t think much of Hillary Clinton&apos;s gas-tax holiday—someone that works on or for the Clinton campaign. There&apos;s a new ad up at HillaryClinton.com. You might want to watch it now before the campaign yanks it down. The ad attacks Barack Obama for not supporting Hillary&apos;s gas-tax holiday, a bit of cheap economic populism that isn&apos;t playing well with voters. Here&apos;s the ad: Now check out this screen grab... The text of the mocked-up newspaper story under the headline &quot;Obama attacks Clinton&apos;s Gas Tax Plan&quot; is drawn from this story about Troopergate—not Bill Clinton&apos;s troopergate, but Eliot Spitzer&apos;s. Still,...</description>
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<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 17:20:03 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by YO</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Haaaaa!</p>]]></description>
<author>YO</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/hillarys_sabotaged_campaign_ad#c1022873</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/hillarys_sabotaged_campaign_ad#c1022873</guid>
<category>2008</category>
<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 17:34:44 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by keshmeshi</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>The "Clinton aides admit..." line looks like it was taken from an Obama campaign ad.  I'm chalking this up to plain old incompetence, which seems to be typical for Hillary's campaign.</p>]]></description>
<author>keshmeshi</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/hillarys_sabotaged_campaign_ad#c1022876</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/hillarys_sabotaged_campaign_ad#c1022876</guid>
<category>2008</category>
<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 17:36:33 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by elenchos</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Byzantine organization ya got there, lady.  I always suspect the eunuchs, personally.  Fucking palace eunuchs are tangled up in every damn thing.</p>]]></description>
<author>elenchos</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/hillarys_sabotaged_campaign_ad#c1022877</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/hillarys_sabotaged_campaign_ad#c1022877</guid>
<category>2008</category>
<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 17:38:36 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Will in Seattle</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>When you're in free fall and the Net is open to all, this is the least of your problems ...</p>

<p>That said, Sen McCain would just be Bush III, no matter how you slice it ...</p>]]></description>
<author>Will in Seattle</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/hillarys_sabotaged_campaign_ad#c1022881</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/hillarys_sabotaged_campaign_ad#c1022881</guid>
<category>2008</category>
<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 17:41:45 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by tsm</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>It feels like dead-horse-beating to bash the bumbling Clinton campaign at this point, except that the horse is still somehow convinced it's alive.</p>]]></description>
<author>tsm</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/hillarys_sabotaged_campaign_ad#c1022888</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/hillarys_sabotaged_campaign_ad#c1022888</guid>
<category>2008</category>
<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 17:49:11 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by siri marino</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>This ad looks like it's made FOR FIVE YEAR OLDS. "Big stupidhead Obama wants *you* to pay for your gas. Booo! But Hillary is going to make the gas companies pay for your gas! Yey!! FREE GAS FOR EVERYONE IN SMURF VILLAGE!! YEY!" What's next Hillary, a tax rebate?  How about taking all Americans out for some free ice cream?  </p>]]></description>
<author>siri marino</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/hillarys_sabotaged_campaign_ad#c1022898</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/hillarys_sabotaged_campaign_ad#c1022898</guid>
<category>2008</category>
<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 18:04:53 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by BCnOR</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>That screen grab came from part of the commercial explaining that all Obama can do is attack Hillary on the gas tax issues because he doesn't have a plan of his own.....it's pretty clear. Put the Cool-Aid down and pay attention.</p>]]></description>
<author>BCnOR</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/hillarys_sabotaged_campaign_ad#c1022923</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/hillarys_sabotaged_campaign_ad#c1022923</guid>
<category>2008</category>
<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 19:07:31 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by keshmeshi</title>
<description><![CDATA[<blockquote>How about taking all Americans out for some free ice cream?</blockquote>

<p>Now that's a campaign promise I can get behind.</p>]]></description>
<author>keshmeshi</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/hillarys_sabotaged_campaign_ad#c1022940</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/hillarys_sabotaged_campaign_ad#c1022940</guid>
<category>2008</category>
<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 19:52:14 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by daniel</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Anyone know of a good explanation why moving the tax from one line of the oil industry's ledger to another will do anything at all?  They already pay the gas tax with the money we give them at the pump they'll pay this new tax with the money we give them at the pump.  What am I missing?</p>]]></description>
<author>daniel</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/hillarys_sabotaged_campaign_ad#c1022955</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/hillarys_sabotaged_campaign_ad#c1022955</guid>
<category>2008</category>
<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 20:33:33 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by nb</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>and for some reason it's still up on her website. way to show how much you care...</p>]]></description>
<author>nb</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/hillarys_sabotaged_campaign_ad#c1022958</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/hillarys_sabotaged_campaign_ad#c1022958</guid>
<category>2008</category>
<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 20:58:59 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by David Wright</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Daniel @ 9: There is a branch of economic analysis called "tax incidence" (see Wikipedia) devoted to calculating who actually pays a given tax.</p>

<p>The application of the theory to a sales tax on gas is pretty straightforward, which is why pretty much all economists agree that this tax borne mostly by producers, not consumer, and therefore its elimination will mostly benefit producers, not consumers.</p>

<p>The application of the theory to a profit tax is much less clear-cut. Whether it is borne by consumers or owners depends in part on whether accounting rules can be "gamed" to make a profit disappear for tax purposes. The indicence of a windfall profit tax, which attempts to figure out what the profit would have been in the absence of some real event and levy a tax on the difference between that imaginary profit and the real profit, is even murkier; such taxes has historically resulted in endless lawsuits over how the windfall should be calculated.</p>

<p>In summary: (1) In theory, it's entirely possible for the tax incidence of a profit tax be different than the tax incidence of a sales tax. Knowing hat a sales tax is borne mostly by consumers or producers doesn't allow you to say with certainly that the incidence of a profit tax would look the same. (2) Assuming that what you want is for producers to bear the tax, it's hard to see how switching from a sales to a profix tax could help in this particular case, since the sales tax is already borne mostly by the producers.</p>]]></description>
<author>David Wright</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/hillarys_sabotaged_campaign_ad#c1022989</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/hillarys_sabotaged_campaign_ad#c1022989</guid>
<category>2008</category>
<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 23:03:08 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Derek</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Still looking for someone to explain why they used the title of an AP article, melded with a photoshopped New York Post article talking about TROOPERGATE. (neither source cited) Also, In their rush to put up images reminding her voters how much she's been "victimized" by Obama, why the hell would you include one with a CITED quote stating, "CLINTON AIDS ADMIDT...HELP HER POLITICALLY"??  I'm Hillary Clinton and I approved this message, right?  Punked or not, like so many other aspects of her campaign, they blew it. And as Pres. Truman, her favorite quotable president liked to say--"The buck stops here."</p>

<p>The only folks drinking any Kool Aid are the ones actually buying what this pathetic, petty, pandering, solipsistic a**hole is selling.  "Help, help, I'm being attacked and repressed!  Save me hard-working Americans, white Americans!"  According to the online gas tax calculator, I would save all of 15 dollars this summer thanks to HillBill & Sleepy McBush.</p>]]></description>
<author>Derek</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/hillarys_sabotaged_campaign_ad#c1022993</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/hillarys_sabotaged_campaign_ad#c1022993</guid>
<category>2008</category>
<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 23:40:52 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by LAWSource</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>THIS AD IS MISLEADING and DRASTICALLY</p>

<p>Misrepresents Obama's Position on this ISSUE!!</p>]]></description>
<author>LAWSource</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/hillarys_sabotaged_campaign_ad#c1022994</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/hillarys_sabotaged_campaign_ad#c1022994</guid>
<category>2008</category>
<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 23:41:22 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by UNPAID BLOGGER</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>While watching that video, the part the struck me the most was her faining love for the proletariat voters... I can almost see her singing her mantra over and over again in her head:  "Just two more months, Hills, just two more months and we'll have complete control... BWAHAHAHAHA!!"</p>

<p>And then she bit the head off a bat or some shit.</p>]]></description>
<author>UNPAID BLOGGER</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/hillarys_sabotaged_campaign_ad#c1023005</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/hillarys_sabotaged_campaign_ad#c1023005</guid>
<category>2008</category>
<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 01:18:01 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by David Pearlman</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>TROOPERGATE. ha! Thats where Larry Patterson and Roger Perry (2 arkansas state troopers) said they arranged sex liaisons for Bill Clinton. The fact that this word was artificially Photoshopped into a Hillary ad, AND the ad features clear text reading "Clinton Aides admit it won't do much for you" AND "Obama plan: tax oil companies" (revealing that he does indeed, have a plan) shows a level of incompetence that is astounding. The context doesn't matter. This ad isn't just TO 5 year-olds, it looks like it was made BY 5 year-olds. <br />
<br /><br />Good job on this Dan- it's getting the huge play it deserves on Huffington, Digg, and Daily Kos. <b>The word "troopergate" is now back in the news! </b></p>]]></description>
<author>David Pearlman</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/hillarys_sabotaged_campaign_ad#c1023008</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/hillarys_sabotaged_campaign_ad#c1023008</guid>
<category>2008</category>
<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 03:37:38 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by rose</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>More scandal</p>

<p>Whitewater controversy<br />
Castle Grande<br />
C<br />
Paula Casey<br />
Lloyd Cutler<br />
F<br />
Robert B. Fiske<br />
Eugene Fitzhugh<br />
Vince Foster<br />
H<br />
David Hale (Whitewater)<br />
John Haley<br />
K<br />
Larry Kuca<br />
 L<br />
John Latham (Whitewater)<br />
Bruce Lindsey<br />
M<br />
William J. Marks Sr.<br />
Charles Matthews (Whitewater)<br />
Jim McDougal<br />
Susan McDougal<br />
Mack McLarty<br />
N<br />
Bernard W. Nussbaum<br />
P<br />
Robert W. Palmer<br />
R<br />
Janet Reno<br />
Robert Ray (prosecutor)<br />
 R cont.<br />
Christopher Ruddy<br />
S<br />
Stephen Smith (Whitewater)<br />
Kenneth Starr<br />
Joshua Steiner<br />
T<br />
Susan Thomases<br />
Harry Thomason<br />
Linda Thompson (attorney)<br />
Jim Guy Tucker<br />
U<br />
United States Senate Whitewater Committee<br />
W<br />
Chris Wade<br />
Susan Webber Wright<br />
 </p>

<p>Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Whitewater_figures"<br />
</p>]]></description>
<author>rose</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/hillarys_sabotaged_campaign_ad#c1023010</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/hillarys_sabotaged_campaign_ad#c1023010</guid>
<category>2008</category>
<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 03:57:20 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by PC</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>It's a trend, whenever Hillary is about to win another primary we see an irrelevant, Hillary bashing post on Slog.</p>

<p>IT's like this defense mechanism.</p>

<p>Relax, don't fel so threatened, Obama's going to win.  Yes, it's scary to ask your self why he can't win in a state like Oh or PA being ahead and spending millions more, or today why is he going to lose WV big time?   OR why'd he just basically give up on Ky?</p>

<p>But man up, he has time to recover in time for the general election.  </p>

<p>MEanwhile he's going to FL and MI addressing those concerns mentioned here about those states...he's startign the general eletion campaign as suggested....he's starting the national voter reg. drive...oh btw how come no word of that here?  Where do we sign up to go visit NM or NV or CO and get some sunshine registering voters this summer?</p>]]></description>
<author>PC</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/hillarys_sabotaged_campaign_ad#c1023025</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/hillarys_sabotaged_campaign_ad#c1023025</guid>
<category>2008</category>
<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 07:23:31 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by cochise.</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>@17 unPC</p>

<p>"Yes, it's scary to ask your self why he can't win in a state like.."</p>

<p>ummm beacuse hillary is still in the race? she can help him win those states by dropping out.</p>

<p>"OR why'd he just basically give up on Ky"</p>

<p>you are aware that hillary "gave up" on 23+ states and territories to focus on 27 right?</p>

<p>"Where do we sign up to go visit NM or NV or CO and get some sunshine registering voters this summer?"</p>

<p>ummm have you tried googling it? the deomcratic party could actually use you help. but i'm sure you were just joking. keep fighting you nobel fight mi amigo.</p>]]></description>
<author>cochise.</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/hillarys_sabotaged_campaign_ad#c1023028</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/hillarys_sabotaged_campaign_ad#c1023028</guid>
<category>2008</category>
<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 07:42:55 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by daniel</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Thanks David that was awesome.  I figured it might have something to do with a bit deeper analysis than I was using to bash Hillary (maybe something to do with it being a per-unit vs a fixed tax, but it sounds like that's just the beginning.)  I'm still going to bash her though.</p>

<p>p.s. So... PC and unPC are different right?</p>]]></description>
<author>daniel</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/hillarys_sabotaged_campaign_ad#c1023031</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/hillarys_sabotaged_campaign_ad#c1023031</guid>
<category>2008</category>
<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 07:47:41 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by irl</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>don't matter if it makes sense or is worth it or how it is paid, who pays in the long run or any of that logical stuff being pointed out. . .just like the many, many USA'rs BHO says cling to their guns and religion - they will cling to a little gas relief. or tax rebate incentives or a 5K loan.</p>]]></description>
<author>irl</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/hillarys_sabotaged_campaign_ad#c1023033</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/hillarys_sabotaged_campaign_ad#c1023033</guid>
<category>2008</category>
<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 07:56:50 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by daniel</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>The thing is... didn't the president just send everyone a fucking $600 check?  It's horrible but I want to ask the gas is expensive people what did you do with that?  We'd be better off just cutting people another check.</p>]]></description>
<author>daniel</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/hillarys_sabotaged_campaign_ad#c1023101</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/hillarys_sabotaged_campaign_ad#c1023101</guid>
<category>2008</category>
<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 10:07:19 -0800</pubDate>
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