Slog - Comments on Here We Go Again http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/here_we_go_again Tomorrow Democrats in Indiana and North Carolina will go to the polls to help settle this never-ending fight between Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama. For those keeping track, it's now been five months since the Iowa caucuses, all of the latest delegate counts have Obama ahead of Clinton by about 130 delegates, and yet lots of people (including Obama and Clinton) are saying they think this fight will last all the way until the last primaries on June 3—or even until the Democratic National Convention in late August (psychosomatic ebola be damned). Steel yourselves, people. The polls have Clinton up... Copyright 2008 Mon, 05 May 2008 10:05:45 -0800 Mon, 05 May 2008 12:57:26 -0800 http://www.movabletype.org/?v=3.34 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Comment by SeMe ~Indiana~

]]> SeMe http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/here_we_go_again#c1013671 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/here_we_go_again#c1013671 2008 Mon, 05 May 2008 10:10:19 -0800 Comment by Will in Seattle She should have dropped out after the loss in Guam.

As goes Guam, so goes the nation.

]]> Will in Seattle http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/here_we_go_again#c1013677 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/here_we_go_again#c1013677 2008 Mon, 05 May 2008 10:18:01 -0800 Comment by Eli Sanders Thanks SeMe. Fixed.

]]> Eli Sanders http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/here_we_go_again#c1013679 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/here_we_go_again#c1013679 2008 Mon, 05 May 2008 10:19:29 -0800 Comment by some dude spin me round right round like a record right round...

]]> some dude http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/here_we_go_again#c1013685 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/here_we_go_again#c1013685 2008 Mon, 05 May 2008 10:27:17 -0800 Comment by Andy Niable ...and steel yourselves for the Credentials Committee fight over the seating of the Florida and Michigan delegates... the so-called "Nuclear Option"

]]> Andy Niable http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/here_we_go_again#c1013686 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/here_we_go_again#c1013686 2008 Mon, 05 May 2008 10:28:23 -0800 Comment by It's Mark Mitchell I'm ready for anything. As long as I never have to hear Dan Abrams talk about it.

]]> It's Mark Mitchell http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/here_we_go_again#c1013691 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/here_we_go_again#c1013691 2008 Mon, 05 May 2008 10:34:00 -0800 Comment by fucking memes goddamn I hate how everything is the nuk-u-lar option now. It's not gonna happen anyhow -- Dean isn't gonna give Clinton control of the rules committee. Part of me hopes that Clinton does get the ultimate nomination -- the Democratic party would be splintered, fractured so bad that a third party would almost have to form from it.

]]> fucking memes http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/here_we_go_again#c1013699 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/here_we_go_again#c1013699 2008 Mon, 05 May 2008 10:43:35 -0800 Comment by Travis Cook If this Democratic Primary Season has had one consistent aspect to it, it's that it does not want to die. So knowing that, it's really easy to predict primary results (it's how I pegged PA's spread at +9 points for Hillary).

Basically, figure out the results that best keep alive the nomination process, and voila... insta-prediction. So for tomorrow, I'd guess Barack wins NC by 8 and Hillary wins IN by 5.

Blacks vote for Barack and whites are scared of him ... blah blah blah... maybe momentum is shifting to Hillary... blah blah blah... we find out (again) that endorsements don't mean anything... blah blah blah... same ol' stuff.

Just please make it stop. I'm not finding this fun anymore.

]]> Travis Cook http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/here_we_go_again#c1013700 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/here_we_go_again#c1013700 2008 Mon, 05 May 2008 10:45:05 -0800 Comment by max solomon, WINE DRINKING LIBERAL i'm starting to really dislike the white blue collar voter. don't you WANT a president smarter, thinner, and cooler than you?

AND HE'S NOT EVEN THAT BLACK!

]]> max solomon, WINE DRINKING LIBERAL http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/here_we_go_again#c1013707 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/here_we_go_again#c1013707 2008 Mon, 05 May 2008 10:49:35 -0800 Comment by Trevor Hillary is making it ok for white people to use race as a pretext to oppose Obama, setting him up to lose in November.

Just imagine if she had bailed in early March, and called for unity behind Obama. No Pennsylvania race baiting. Support for Obama during the Wright controversy, lambasting it as a distraction from the Iraq war and the need for white and black working people to receive greater benefits from a government now skewed toward the very wealthy. No Michigan/ Florida bullshit. No ridiculous angling for superdelegates.

She's giving swift boat tactics a good name. Saying she's doing it on behalf of the white working class. Making it sound like Obama is out to screw them, cannot represent them. Hillary has done what the Republicans couldn't. She's made it ok to vote against Obama because of race. An victory in Indiana would be a vindication of this strategy, and a signal of disaster to come.

]]> Trevor http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/here_we_go_again#c1013714 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/here_we_go_again#c1013714 2008 Mon, 05 May 2008 10:55:22 -0800 Comment by tsm May I take this opportunity to point out that Hillary now has another truly awful pander to add to the gas tax holiday?

Clinton has decided to further tarnish her tough-on-policy credentials by slamming McCain for his willingness to echo Bush's refusal to accept the current farm bill ... The trouble is that on this count, both McCain and Bush are actually right (marking perhaps a first among Bush's myriad veto threats this year) ...

[T]he bill in its present form--among its many failings--continues [to] fully subsidize farmers who make as much as $1 million a year. What's more, federal subsidies aren't fully phased out until a farmer's income hits $1.95 million.

With food prices skyrocketing, farmers do not need your aid right now. Especially the ones with seven-figure incomes.

I'll be honest: As an Obama supporter, Hillary often did better flexing her wonkish muscle in debates, and I was left worrying a tad bit about Obama's own policy instincts by comparison. Seeing her take such dumb policy positions finally gets rid of any tiny remaining bit of unease I had. Phew.

]]> tsm http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/here_we_go_again#c1013723 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/here_we_go_again#c1013723 2008 Mon, 05 May 2008 11:00:07 -0800 Comment by inkweary I don't see this as damaging to the party. I think it is good for us all and is contributing to the huge surge in interest in voting and nominee selection. Any candidate that can't take the politicking for the nomination would not be able to withstand the rigors of the actual campaign to come. This is testing Obama's resolve, which he needs to counter the inexperience charge" and HRC is challenging the belief that she is "unelectabe".

]]> inkweary http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/here_we_go_again#c1013726 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/here_we_go_again#c1013726 2008 Mon, 05 May 2008 11:00:58 -0800 Comment by Darlene I totally agree with Trevor. The only leadership Clinton has shown, as far as I'm concerned, is in making racism respectable.

]]> Darlene http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/here_we_go_again#c1013779 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/here_we_go_again#c1013779 2008 Mon, 05 May 2008 11:18:44 -0800 Comment by Cow Huh, I didn't realize Iowa was back in early December.

(It's been 4 months, no?)

]]> Cow http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/here_we_go_again#c1013825 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/here_we_go_again#c1013825 2008 Mon, 05 May 2008 11:26:27 -0800 Comment by Pander Bears Need Luv Too! Think of the poor pander bears, displaced by Global Warming, and the lack of a cheap gas tax rebate for the oil firms that are contributing to my campaign!

Won't YOU help save a pander bear?

(this message has been approved by the Hils for Pander Bears campaign and paid for by McCain/Bush 08)

]]> Pander Bears Need Luv Too! http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/here_we_go_again#c1013857 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/here_we_go_again#c1013857 2008 Mon, 05 May 2008 11:29:56 -0800 Comment by 99.999999999% of America So who won the election? I, uh, forgot to vote. Was it last week? Did the Mormon guy win, or that guy from New York?

]]> 99.999999999% of America http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/here_we_go_again#c1014062 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/here_we_go_again#c1014062 2008 Mon, 05 May 2008 12:09:33 -0800 Comment by Will in Seattle No, it was that really old guy from Arizona, the Cialis spokesman, @16.

]]> Will in Seattle http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/here_we_go_again#c1014258 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/here_we_go_again#c1014258 2008 Mon, 05 May 2008 12:57:26 -0800