FYI, sarcasm doesn't make you sound smart or witty.

And the chicken is delicious!

Oh, but it's delicious! It's delicious! Delicious! What is it about that word that supposedly carries so much power over you? We get it. You find it delicious. Control yourself why don't you. Control your desires instead of being so proud of sating every little urge and want. At least don't brag that you ate something; it's not a great accomplishment.

Then you take the dead body and boil it in hot water and remove the feathers then clean the inside of it out.

But still, I love fried chicken!!!! YUMMY!

That being said, I have to say that Ezell's is delicious and a local business that does good things. However, that doesn't mean you should eat there every day; a once in awhile fried chicken feast (or, in my case, a liver and gizzard feast) is not going to kill you.

Yes Cato, like I said, we get it.

I just hate this kind of story because it feeds into a myth that people on the left tend to gobble up like fried chicken: small businesses should be glorified, big businesses are probably up to something.

Shame Ezell's is the target. Is someone stealing the fryer grease?

that's slightly different from ilicit (sic):
Main Entry: il·lic·it
Pronunciation: \(ˌ)i(l)-ˈli-sət\
Function: adjective
Etymology: Latin illicitus, from in- + licitus lawful — more at licit
Date: 1506
: not permitted : unlawful

Troll all you want, but please use the correct words.

I apologize, and shall always spellcheck my entries on message boards from here on out.

That's why I prefer lightly grilled, skin-off chicken breast with baby carrots and chinese broccoli on a bed of creamy polenta.

It's much more humane.

As a matter of fact, I DO feel like chicken tonite!

http://slog.thestranger.com/2006/10/its_peta_tuesday_at

pretty embarrassing if you ask me, so egg of your face fool.

and @9 chickens adds more than a "little flavor"? get real, fo real. but man, I must say, pork adds the MOST flavor. now tofu on your face punk.

Well, except for a few.

But most vegetarians like being tickled, in my personal experience.

On that note, I am glad to say I started this whole nonsense!

why can't people decide whether to eat fried chicken or not? why does something potentially unhealthy necessarily warrant it being banned or crapped upon by other people. shall we lock up all the people that have unprotected sex?

freedom to choose; powerful and without harm to anyone not making the choice (and if there is there are legal options available or taxes to pay for externalities)

Funniest exchange in days

Also: Fuck you murderer!!!

I've personally given up on trying to "convert" people, but I still think I can answer your question. For myself, anyway.

The point is NOT why they were bred, or even that they are killed. The point is that the vast majority of animals raised for food in this country are treated inhumanely. They suffer. A lot. Basically, their only experience of life is suffering. I find that to be morally indefensible. And the critters can't stage a revolution. They are powerless. Which is why I used to waste my time advocating for them.

I eventually realized that people don't really care about morality. They care about fines/incarceration. If it's legal, OR they can get away with it, they mostly just don't care. The pushy veggies haven't given up on you giving a damn. Give them some credit for speaking up for suffering individuals who can't speak for themselves.

I'm so silly as to care. So, for me, the easy answer is to stop buying (and eating, but buying is the important part) meat. But it's possible to get meat from humanely-raised animals. There are still environmental and health problems associated with them, and I do well on a vegan diet, so I don't bother. But if I needed to eat meat for some reason, I'd look carefully at my sources.

:)

As far as small businesses go, the Republicans are slowly convincing me that small businesses only exist to help justify tax cuts for CEOs of large businesses.

And need I point out that animals don't have the intellectual capacity to agree or disagree about anything - that's one reason why they're SO DELICIOUS!

Anybody who says otherwise clearly hasn't spend much time around livestock, poultry or the like - fenceposts have more emotional and intellectual capacity, truly.

Which is not to say eating at Ezell's on a regular basis is necessarily good for you either, but do keep in mind folks, it ain't the chicken that'll kills ya, it's the yummy, yummy deep-fat frying oil that'll take you on a one-way trip to Coronary-town

Intelligence is not the same as capacity to suffer. By that logic, there would be no moral problm with torturing retarded people.

Chickens are dumb, but they act like they feel pain, they have the physiological capacity to feel pain, they have the evolutionary incentive to feel pain. . . makes sense to think that they feel pain.

In other words, if there are X number of chickens raised each year for food, and X number of chickens killed each year for food, and we eliminate all demand for X number of chicken deaths by burning every KFC and Ezell's to the ground, there will not be X chickens running around and having chicken parties and chicken outings to see Iron Man 2. There will be X less chickens born every year in the U.S.

Is it better for X chickens to live and then die, or for them never to have lived at all?

I think it's possible to have such a shitty quality of life that it's not worth living, yeah. And I think that the vaaaaast majority of animals raised for food fall into that category. I don't think most people realize just how badly they are treated. There's plenty of documentation/video out there, for those who are interested in knowing what they are funding. Awful stuff.

It doesn't have to be that way. But most people aren't willing to pay what it would cost to give the animals lives worth living.

As if you didn't know that it feels good. Of course it feels good; it's heroin for fuck's sake.

So yes. Everyone, but everyone, agrees meat is "deliiiiiicious". So stipulated. Really. Nobody every said it wasn't. Yet still, they'll keep repeating those words, delicious, yummy, tasty. Delicious, yummy, tasty, ad infinitum, ad nauseum .

It's the mechanism of addition to cling to these base desires and ignore everything else.

Will that satisfy the most strident vegetarians? No, they won't be happy until all animal products are eliminated from our diet and our lifestyles. But it will make us all feel better about biting into our burger, and I'd be fine paying a little extra for that.

Well said.

It is true that humans are made to eat meat, as was pointed out earlier. Yet, as the ever astute Bellvue Ave. stated we do have the choice to choose. Just because you aren't seeing these terrible factory farms, these hormone injections, these animals suffering, doesn't mean that it isn't happening. You know that it is happening, and you know that there are other ways to feed yourself and keep yourself happy that doen't involve you supporting these massive industries that make a profit by torturing living things. You choose to support it. Great. However, it has be said that you can judge a society based on how they treat their animals. That seems a bit saccharine, however, I do think there is a really ugly sense of entitlement that comes with being an American and when anyone points out that perhaps as a culture we don't need to eat meat three meals a day, and that to obtain healthy meat it means that the price may go up people flip their shit. No one is saying you are wrong to want to eat meat, but you are wrong to support the industry. You can say all day that animals exist only for consumption, but knowing all the other shit going on it just makes you an Asshole.

i DO have a problem with you not knowing the difference between a grammer and a spell checker. debe ser profundamente humillada!

ahora, huevo en su CARA!

You might be missing the irony of calling someone out on their grammar/syntax/spelling and then not checking your spelling. But good job knowing an obscure language like Spanish.

"Meat is Murder," however, is not an argument, it's just a dumb, inflammatory slogan. And the reason it's dumb and kinda offensive to a lot of people, myself included, is because it basically says animals are people, which they aren't. It is possible to believe their suffering should be minimized without taking the further step of granting them the same full rights enjoyed by people. And anthropomorphizing animals to the extent that PETA does, besides being incredibly obnoxious, is just flat-out silly.

And elenchos, the reason people keep saying "yummy" etc is probably because they've heard this sermon about a gazillion times and are deliberately saying that to piss off the self-righteous vegans in their midst. You know, for laughs. Seems to be working like a charm.

Of course, it may be because Ezell's chicken really is delicious, which is true. I can't eat myself anymore, on accounta cholesterol issues. But still.

and yes, i feel proud of the english i have leaned since i have been here. but i'm getting the sense that you're making fun of my home language by sarcastically calling it obscure. as if obscurity equals quality! way to make fun of an immigrant to prop your ass up, asshole. making fun of mexican americans seems to be the "in" thing nowadays. feel better?

my man nico is not going to be happy about this.

PETA has a record of success that few animal welfare or environmental groups can match. Everyone bitches about their tactics, but when was the last time you saw someone wearing real fur? They have moved the center of the animal rights debate far from where it stood when they began, and other animal groups stood by in slackjawed wonder.

They were also the first, and for a time the only, major group, including Greenpeace and the Sierra Club, saying that cows are the #1 cause of global warming. Nobody else was willing to go there, but it is true and it needed to be said.

So when I say "meat is murder" and they respond by turning into Rush Limbaugh, it means I'm winning.

And who is Nico, and why is he vaguely threatening me?

GO GO PETA.

I agree, "meat is murder" is not an argument, and I get frustrated with animal rights activists who go around making dumb arguments when there are extremely solid arguments to be made. My BA is in philosophy, and I focused heavily on ethics. None of my ethics profs knew of a good argument refuting Singer (of Animal Liberation fame). So, I emailed Singer and asked him who he thinks makes the strongest argument against him. He told me, I read the guy's book. . . still pretty weak.

Not that most people base their choices on the strength of philosophical arguments. I'm just sayin'. "Meat is murder" is a waste of everybody's time.

I know people do the "yummy" think as a response to the sermon. It's all very childish. We're making choices every damn day that matter. We should be able to have a discussion about them without it devolving into THAT. Yet, it always does.

If it is ridiculous to care about ethics, health, and the environment. . well. . . I'm delighted to be ridiculous. Thx. :)

PETA spends less than one percent of its multi-million dollar budget actually helping animals. The group euthanized (killed) more than 1,900 animals in 2003 alone -- that's over 85 percent of the animals it received. In fact, from July 1998 through the end of 2003, PETA killed over 10,000 dogs, cats, and other "companion animals" at its Norfolk, Virginia headquarters. That's more than five animals every day. On its 2002 federal income-tax return, PETA claimed a $9,370 expense for a giant walk-in freezer, the kind most people use as a meat locker or for ice-cream storage. But animal-rights activists don't eat meat or dairy foods. So far, the group hasn't confirmed the obvious -- that it's using the appliance to store the bodies of its victims.