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<title>Slog - Comments on Drumming in Park Bugs Neighbors</title>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/drumming_in_park_bugs_neighbors</link>
<description>Posted by news intern Chris Kissel By now, those living along the perimeter of Cal Anderson Park have probably come to accept late-night noise as a fact of life. After all, the park is two blocks from the bar-filled Pike/Pine area, hangout of Seattle&apos;s most rollicking hipsters. What they haven&apos;t gotten used to, some neighbors say, is the loud drumming emanating from the park. Apparently, this particular kind of noise has been coming from the park for a while, at least according to the neighbors I talked to. Strange noises, including those produced by drums, have been an issue since...</description>
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<title>Comment by demo kid</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Drumming in park fucking bugs everyone.  It seriously makes me contemplate hippiecide.</p>]]></description>
<author>demo kid</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/drumming_in_park_bugs_neighbors#c1036317</link>
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<category>City</category>
<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 14:33:56 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by mattymatt</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>I can't take seriously any person who claims that there's a difference between drumming and noise.</p>]]></description>
<author>mattymatt</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/drumming_in_park_bugs_neighbors#c1036330</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/drumming_in_park_bugs_neighbors#c1036330</guid>
<category>City</category>
<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 14:38:08 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Jessica</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Um, if you MUST drum, perhaps not on a Sunday morning in a park closely surrounded by residences?  That's not how to make friends and influence people (unless you're planning on influencing them to call the cops and file noise complaints).</p>]]></description>
<author>Jessica</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/drumming_in_park_bugs_neighbors#c1036331</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/drumming_in_park_bugs_neighbors#c1036331</guid>
<category>City</category>
<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 14:38:30 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by nimbyhater</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>So cameras  are ok, drumming not so much. You live in a city! Noise is part of life. Get a hobbie or something. sheesh.And you never know, those drummers might be packing!</p>]]></description>
<author>nimbyhater</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/drumming_in_park_bugs_neighbors#c1036343</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/drumming_in_park_bugs_neighbors#c1036343</guid>
<category>City</category>
<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 14:42:48 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by shitbrain</title>
<description><![CDATA[<blockquote>“The carpenter” is Mitch Allen, whose work-in-progress home faces the playground portion of the park. He said noise always keeps him up, but that drumming hasn’t been an issue in the last year or so.</blockquote>

<p>Well, that dude's fucking construction noise bugs the HELLS out of me. Sumbitch was hammering away yesterday evening, as a matter of fact -- well after 5:00, even.</p>

<p>One would've thought that one could drop by the park to escape this city's omnipresent construction racket. But it's alas not the case.</p>

<p></p>

<p>At least not at this park.<br />
</p>]]></description>
<author>shitbrain</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/drumming_in_park_bugs_neighbors#c1036348</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/drumming_in_park_bugs_neighbors#c1036348</guid>
<category>City</category>
<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 14:45:26 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Zoesanne</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>A little 'no drumming' rule here and a little 'no plastinated human remains' there.  Eh...who cares! </p>

<p>Keep blinding people with minutiae and no one will notice the erosion of other rights.  Really, no one will know….  </p>]]></description>
<author>Zoesanne</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/drumming_in_park_bugs_neighbors#c1036355</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/drumming_in_park_bugs_neighbors#c1036355</guid>
<category>City</category>
<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 14:54:56 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Bellevue Ave</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>bad architecture isn't nimby but this is? </p>]]></description>
<author>Bellevue Ave</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/drumming_in_park_bugs_neighbors#c1036358</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/drumming_in_park_bugs_neighbors#c1036358</guid>
<category>City</category>
<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 14:55:43 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by tiffany</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>personally i really appreciate the drumming. it reminds me of nice weather and good vibes. if she doesn't like it she should move somewhere quiet and predictable like the suburbs. </p>]]></description>
<author>tiffany</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/drumming_in_park_bugs_neighbors#c1036361</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/drumming_in_park_bugs_neighbors#c1036361</guid>
<category>City</category>
<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 14:58:32 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Bellevue Ave</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>being against bad architecture isn't nimby but being against drumming is? </p>]]></description>
<author>Bellevue Ave</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/drumming_in_park_bugs_neighbors#c1036363</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/drumming_in_park_bugs_neighbors#c1036363</guid>
<category>City</category>
<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 14:59:06 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by alien</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Ugh! Will somebody please fire Savage and hire Kissel instead? This is one of the best written articles I've read on Slog.</p>]]></description>
<author>alien</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/drumming_in_park_bugs_neighbors#c1036378</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/drumming_in_park_bugs_neighbors#c1036378</guid>
<category>City</category>
<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 15:07:14 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Nick &quot;Well Hung&quot; Lowe</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>I love the sound of breaking glass, especially when it's caused by the impact of a freshly killed hackeysack zombie drumdude being thrown into the biggest window of a badly architectured Capitol Hill condo--like, for example, Brix.<br />
</p>]]></description>
<author>Nick &quot;Well Hung&quot; Lowe</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/drumming_in_park_bugs_neighbors#c1036379</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/drumming_in_park_bugs_neighbors#c1036379</guid>
<category>City</category>
<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 15:07:20 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Queen_of_Sleaze</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>If I lived next door, Cal Anderson would definitely be soaked in the vile, smelly blood of hippies as both they and their drums totally SUCK! </p>

<p>But one thing about this story that doesn't suck (or presumably, smell): The name "Royal Alley-Barnes".</p>

<p>I SO wish my parents had thought to bless me with such an amazing and poetic name, and I can only hope that I will think of a name so amazingly bitchin for my own children, should I choose to breed.</p>]]></description>
<author>Queen_of_Sleaze</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/drumming_in_park_bugs_neighbors#c1036383</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/drumming_in_park_bugs_neighbors#c1036383</guid>
<category>City</category>
<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 15:08:16 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by P to the J</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Jessica.  Sunday morning.  Wake n' Bake. Quiet time.  Coffee.  Calmness.  Drumming does not jibe with that vibe.  What's wrong with coming out at, say, 1PM?  That's when I'm gone on my bike ride, anyways.</p>]]></description>
<author>P to the J</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/drumming_in_park_bugs_neighbors#c1036384</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/drumming_in_park_bugs_neighbors#c1036384</guid>
<category>City</category>
<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 15:08:18 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by orangekrush</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>I'd rather take drumming and not the ear splitting city wide noise pollution of all the neo suburbia under the pretense of density going on. NY is quieter as far as that goes.<br />
</p>]]></description>
<author>orangekrush</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/drumming_in_park_bugs_neighbors#c1036386</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/drumming_in_park_bugs_neighbors#c1036386</guid>
<category>City</category>
<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 15:09:10 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by john cocktosin</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>The carpenter should hire that guy who shot up the drum circle / hippies at folk life to "take care of the problem".  </p>]]></description>
<author>john cocktosin</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/drumming_in_park_bugs_neighbors#c1036402</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/drumming_in_park_bugs_neighbors#c1036402</guid>
<category>City</category>
<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 15:19:10 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by brett</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>if it bothered his wife so much "she had tears in her eyes" then she probably has an undiagnosed mental illness.  </p>

<p>so she sends her husband, who has no real complaint, to bitch about it.  i had neighbors just like that.</p>]]></description>
<author>brett</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/drumming_in_park_bugs_neighbors#c1036404</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/drumming_in_park_bugs_neighbors#c1036404</guid>
<category>City</category>
<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 15:20:13 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Tiktok</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Carpenter dude's wife thinks she has it bad now--wait until the goddamn bass solo starts...</p>]]></description>
<author>Tiktok</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/drumming_in_park_bugs_neighbors#c1036449</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/drumming_in_park_bugs_neighbors#c1036449</guid>
<category>City</category>
<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 15:31:24 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Will in Seattle</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>People who live near parks need to learn to close their windows.</p>

<p>Or take up drumming.</p>]]></description>
<author>Will in Seattle</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/drumming_in_park_bugs_neighbors#c1036525</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/drumming_in_park_bugs_neighbors#c1036525</guid>
<category>City</category>
<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 15:50:40 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Fnarf</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>I like how all these newly-minted urbanites have this idea that "it's a city, it's supposed to be noisy" means you can do anything you want without regard to anyone else. No, you CAN'T do anything you want, and if what you want is playing your fucking drums in a neighborhood park, you should have your hands broken.</p>]]></description>
<author>Fnarf</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/drumming_in_park_bugs_neighbors#c1036557</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/drumming_in_park_bugs_neighbors#c1036557</guid>
<category>City</category>
<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 16:02:38 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by bang</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>this city is so fucked. Its a park not your living room. if you can't stand the sounds move to another fucking neighborhood you fucking nazi son of a bitch!</p>]]></description>
<author>bang</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/drumming_in_park_bugs_neighbors#c1036616</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/drumming_in_park_bugs_neighbors#c1036616</guid>
<category>City</category>
<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 16:20:48 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Jessica</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Fnarf has it.  While my apartment building's quiet hours are 9pm-9am, does that mean that at 9:15am on a Sunday morning I should listen to Cannnibal Corpse with the volume at 11?  No.  Drumming is one of those sounds that penetrates walls and is historically designed to travel long distances, from what I understand.  Maybe we could round up a pack of drummers to go drum in the parks or driveways of everyone's neighborhoods and see if they still say "just close a window".  </p>

<p>Just because you CAN doesn't mean you SHOULD.</p>]]></description>
<author>Jessica</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/drumming_in_park_bugs_neighbors#c1036618</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/drumming_in_park_bugs_neighbors#c1036618</guid>
<category>City</category>
<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 16:21:01 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Mahtli69</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>@19 - Or at least pistol whipped.</p>]]></description>
<author>Mahtli69</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/drumming_in_park_bugs_neighbors#c1036628</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/drumming_in_park_bugs_neighbors#c1036628</guid>
<category>City</category>
<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 16:23:21 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by bang</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Let me just say one thing... Jessica and fnarf, it does however mean you can. In all honesty, if you don't like the noises created in a specific neighborhood, particularly one with a park, then don't live in that neighborhood. Community space is available to everyone. that means if you want to go out there and tell everyone around how that guy shouldn't be drumming, you have that right, but he also has the right to continue drumming. </p>]]></description>
<author>bang</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/drumming_in_park_bugs_neighbors#c1036636</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/drumming_in_park_bugs_neighbors#c1036636</guid>
<category>City</category>
<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 16:25:38 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by kinkos</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>now the cops can use those decibel meters on both the nightclubs AND the parks!  hooray!</p>]]></description>
<author>kinkos</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/drumming_in_park_bugs_neighbors#c1036647</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/drumming_in_park_bugs_neighbors#c1036647</guid>
<category>City</category>
<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 16:30:12 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Bellevue Ave</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>how many of you think that these home owners are wrong but stopping a building from going up because it is boring is right?<br />
</p>]]></description>
<author>Bellevue Ave</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/drumming_in_park_bugs_neighbors#c1036713</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/drumming_in_park_bugs_neighbors#c1036713</guid>
<category>City</category>
<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 16:57:02 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by genevieve</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>I used to work in the Hugo House when it was New City Theater, in a office facing the park. As soon as the weather turned warm, there would be some drummer dude magically appearing each morning. I consider it a sing of changing season, same as the ducks returning to swim in the fountain (then the reservoir). This was over a decade ago, so it's not a new phenomenon, and while I can appreciate that it's annoying to hear that all the time if you live there - well, it's a PARK. Doesn't mean people can make any noise they want 24/7 but drumming suring the day doesn't seem unreasonable for a park. </p>

<p>OTOH, someone in the middle of house construction that certainly affects their neighbors complaining about public noise is a bit rich.</p>

<p>OTT, but a month or so ago, I saw a guy playing a sitar in Cal Anderson Park. Who has a freaking sitar, and of those who do, who hauls it to a park? That thing was huge!</p>]]></description>
<author>genevieve</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/drumming_in_park_bugs_neighbors#c1036719</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/drumming_in_park_bugs_neighbors#c1036719</guid>
<category>City</category>
<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 16:58:54 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by keshmeshi</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>People who regularly live in cities, whose ancestors lived in cities, know perfectly well how to behave in one.  Americans, with their love for suburbia, assume that if you live in a city, you have to put up with tons of bullshit.  Not so.  Go to a real city, like in Europe, and try playing some fucking drums.  You will not be well received.  Yes, it's a public space and people deserve not to be disturbed by others' behavior and bullshit in that public space.</p>

<p>It's no wonder with you knuckleheads' attitude that most Americans are terrified of giving up their cars and moving to the city.</p>]]></description>
<author>keshmeshi</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/drumming_in_park_bugs_neighbors#c1036757</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/drumming_in_park_bugs_neighbors#c1036757</guid>
<category>City</category>
<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 17:16:39 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Will in Seattle</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Our news intern should join the drummers in the park.</p>

<p>And set fire to a Hybrid Hummer (mpg ... still way too frickin low).</p>

<p>To keep warm ...</p>]]></description>
<author>Will in Seattle</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/drumming_in_park_bugs_neighbors#c1036799</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/drumming_in_park_bugs_neighbors#c1036799</guid>
<category>City</category>
<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 17:37:13 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Will in Seattle</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>@25 - well, if they were 40 to 100 story mixed-income residential rental apartment buildings near the parks ... um, I don't know, so long as they had drum circles on the roof ...</p>]]></description>
<author>Will in Seattle</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/drumming_in_park_bugs_neighbors#c1036803</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/drumming_in_park_bugs_neighbors#c1036803</guid>
<category>City</category>
<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 17:40:01 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Dougsf</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Living in a loud, urban area doesn't mean you can make whatever noise you want. It's exactly the opposite. The closer your neighborers, the smaller the splash you need to make.</p>

<p>Also, fuck drumming. Fuck bongos, and fuck the idiots who play them in the park. Get a practice space like ever other musician has to. Or go back to playing hacky sack, you can do that quietly in the park all night long if you like. </p>]]></description>
<author>Dougsf</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/drumming_in_park_bugs_neighbors#c1036823</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/drumming_in_park_bugs_neighbors#c1036823</guid>
<category>City</category>
<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 17:49:41 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by danny</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>I walked by the drumming two Sundays ago.  It was some kind of African dance inspired aerobics class.  I think there were two guys drumming, one guy leading the class and about 30 people following his moves.</p>]]></description>
<author>danny</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/drumming_in_park_bugs_neighbors#c1036888</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/drumming_in_park_bugs_neighbors#c1036888</guid>
<category>City</category>
<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 18:46:22 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by RainMan</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>I once heard a bagpiper in Cal Anderson Park one Sunday morning a few years ago.  I wonder if his next of kin was notified of the location of his remains...</p>]]></description>
<author>RainMan</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/drumming_in_park_bugs_neighbors#c1036978</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/drumming_in_park_bugs_neighbors#c1036978</guid>
<category>City</category>
<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 20:46:35 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by homage to me</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Persoanlly, I like my drumming to be balanced by some interminable car alarm.  This makes for a sweet Sunday morning serenade.</p>]]></description>
<author>homage to me</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/drumming_in_park_bugs_neighbors#c1037154</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/drumming_in_park_bugs_neighbors#c1037154</guid>
<category>City</category>
<pubDate>Sat, 31 May 2008 07:59:52 -0800</pubDate>
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