Comments on Barack Obama Is White
Actually a stupid point.
Jim Crow segregationists didn't care if you were half white. Nor did people in the North who wrote racial covenants. People didn't pass based on lineage. They passed based solely on appearance and affect. Obama doesn't look white. Ergo, Hillary can say he's not patriotic, that he doesn't represent people who work hard, etc. And it works.
If African-American means descendent of American slaves, as it's supposed to, he's not at all African-American. Of course just about the time that term came into vogue enough people started showing up directly from Africa to make it out-of-date. He's African, by his father, and European-American by his mother. Luckily for us all, he really is able to have it both ways. But the term as it is generally understood and used, does not apply to him, and not just because he's half "White". If he's the white candidate, then what is McCain?
This has been bothering me for a while now. No one seems to believe that there's such a thing as "biracial", so Obama is consistently the "black" candidate - to keep things simple. I know that miscegenation laws and segregation laws didn't make that distinction, but WE certainly can. Biracial people are a growing segment of society too; it must be maddening to have to "choose" a race.
He's definitely african american, his father was african and his mother was american.
Fear of a Black Planet -
"Black man, black woman, black baby
White man, white woman, white baby
White man, black woman, black baby
Black man, white woman, black baby"
I guess with Feit gone somebody has to sit in The Stranger's racially tone-deaf seat.
This is an absurd post. MOST American blacks have white blood in them. In Barack's case, it came from his white mother - other African-Americans got their white skin tone a couple hundreds years ago when a slave owner raped his slave.
If we're going to define "black" as being of 100% sub-Saharan descent, then only recent immigrants from Africa would count.
It's funny, when Hillary was still a viable candidate, I never heard the media mention Obama's race very often. Now that the press have declared her done for, it seems all that prejudice is being aimed at him.
And for a lot of people, being black is OK but being mixed is not. Miscegenation, baby, it's against God's Law. If your God is a bastard SOB.
i think in the enlightened south they call it the "one drop rule" or somesuch. can we move on? no? i thought so.
But he is black. And #7 already said what I was gonna say.
If we're now supposed to refer to Barack as biracial, should we also say that Hillary is bisexual?
Ew.
But seriously, you all should stop worrying about this and vote for me, based on my single campaign pledge: If I am elected, I solemnly swear that there shall be porn filmed in the oval office. Hot porn. Constant porn. Deviant porn. And it shall be posted on Youporn.
People from any other mixed race background are considered biracial, then why not black and white? The most specific way to refer to Obama's racial heritage is biracial or some equivalent term. The alternative - that he should simply be considered black or African American - has been justified here by variations on "one drop rule." Yes, most African Americans carry white genetic material, just as many - if not most - white people carry genetic material of other races (I'm 1/16 Native American myself). But if Obama's case his mother is white and his father is African. So he's biracial.
Obama identifies as African-American because it is advantageous for him to do so. Everyone of mixed ethnicity, from Halle Berry to Cameron Diaz, figures out what will be the best characterization of themselves for their career and goes with it.
The worst part is that some actual public policies get driven by these nebulous categories.
Since race is a social category and not a biological one, if people identify BHO as "black", then he's black. If some people identify him as "white", that would be equally valid.
Halley Berry got that as well when she won the Oscar. "First black woman" to win an Oscar for Best Actress.
It is a retarded argument. Almost all "blacks" in the US are technically of mixed race, with varying degrees of Euro blood mixed in. Very few are 100% pure African descended. Obama's mix was more recent, directly from his parents. But there's a little bit of white DNA in almost all American blacks somewhere in the family tree.
"African-American" is not a biological description. It is a hue.
whatever color or hue, they still call em n*ggers.
Half black, half white and totally awesome!
@14, and PJ, do you consider yourself mixed race, or Native American? I'd venture to guess you just call yourself white.
Barack is black AND he's biracial. These are not mutually exclusive terms.
We all know McCain is on of dem South Americans from south of Mexico ... ain't even a real Murrican.
Riz! Love to you. Yes, that is his unique position, exactly, and what is going on with this is DESPICABLE - when are we going to finally stop this crap? This endless trap of our ancestors? Hillary has tarred herself - after her lies, with this "white working people" SHIT. Policies aside, Obama's biraciality, his complexity, his status beyond the 60s arguments, beyond the ironclad Black/White divide shows us a new place to move to in more ways than one. Plus, he has the policy thing like a motherfucker. Vote for this man (Oregonians)! Show the people this race-baiting, this phonyness, WILL NOT STAND!
It's like some of my friends say; Your "half-white" until you get pulled over by the police, followed by store security, or shot down by a landlord for an apartment or hiring manager for a job. Then your just black.
Besides, the argument is ultimately moot for all of us. Race is purely a social construction. Only in our heads.
Race is a social construct so he's basically whatever society says he is. One drop rule.
Think about race in America. What is race? Isn't it based mostly on your looks? An Italian or Czech man is considered white in the US. Barack Obama looks black, therefore in the US, he will be seen as black. I'd argue that Colin Powell looks equally white and black. What do we call him?
I suggest you all look at this
http://www.pbs.org/race/001_WhatIsRace/001_00-home.htm
Wake up. He is THE Candidate.
To all those making the arguement that one drop of african blood makes you black:
Barack Obama grew up in Hawaii. In Hawaii which has one of the biggest(21%),if not the biggest population of multiracial people in the country. In Hawaii people site all of their ethnic heritages(e.g. I am portguese and chinese). Obama does this himself " I am the son of a black man from Kenya and a white woman from Kansas." and again on The View "My mother was White. My father was Black. I have a sister whose half Indonesian whose married to a Chinese-Canadian."
I multiracial people should be able to define themselves. Obama has defined himself as mulitracial and the press should respect that. The number of mulit-racial
individuals is growing the media needs to move past these old racial definitions. It continues the divisions between us all.
I dunno, I identity as white, but apparently my great-great-great-great French grandfather married a Native American woman, making me like 5%. It's not enough to earn me recognition from a tribe, so should I still identify myself as biracial?
My mother is a fair-skinned Black woman, my father was white. I am often mistaken for white - which is a mistake. Although I can speak the language, when at I'm home I usually don't (Black language) I can eat it, but when I'm at home I usually don't (Black food culture) I can dance to it, but I prefer to dance to the music of my culture (unlike Obama I don't dance like a white person) And while I don't usually face the kind of overt discrimination darker skinned people often have to put up with, I often do encounter a weird change of atmosphere after "coming out". Why don't I "just go be white"? Because there is nothing in that world that feels like home. African American isn't just a skin color, it's a culture that is familiar to you, and Obama is only grudgingly considered "Black" by the people from here -- because he's not from here.
What I was trying to say was that while most everyone is, in some sense or another, biracial, most people identify with whatever happens to be there dominant racial background. I have a hard time seeing how in cases where someone is clearly from two distinct racial backgrounds, like Obama, could reasonably be considered anything but biracial.
But ultimately he should be whatever helps him beat McCain.
This kind of post is what makes people hate Obamatons.
i believe the technical term is mulatto. but that's probably pejorative.
it would be politically advantageous for democrats to refer to him as "mixed" or "bi-racial" or "of east african descent" any time an ignorant mouth breather says he's "black".
@29 if you maintain a connection to your native community and know your lineage. being native is partly heritage but mostly culturally and about maintaining the links to home.
I think he's American. Like me.
He's Black. White genetics (like most non-negroid genetics) are recessive. He inherited by proportion, mostly his father's negroid DNA and traits. Black negroids are about 150,000 - 200,000 years older than every other race of human on this planet, thus they're 150,000 - 200,000 years closer to our common pre-human ancestors. (Hence the "monkey" facial qualities, etc, shared by those pre-human ancestors)
Obama has an extremely SMALL skull, thereby encompassing an extremely SMALL brain. (Negroids have, on average, the smallest average brainsize)
Obama 08
(fitting end to the American Empire)
:D
I'll tell you what Barack Obama has...an enormous whozeewhatsit!!!
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