Hugs and Kisses, Women everywhere - except Montana, South Dakota, and Puerto Rico.
Women everywhere - except Montana, South Dakota, Puerto Rico, and the rest of the planet.
Don't hold your breath waiting for Hil to make rational decisions about this. Sherman Alexie wrote something this week that should be repeated in all of these conversations. "There is something profoundly wrong with anybody who wants to be president."
I'm pretty much where Monique is, myself. I really wanted Hillary to win -- I still don't "get" the whole Obama thing -- but I care more about the Supreme Court appointments in the next 4 years so I'm over myself and ready to campaign for the Big O.
Original Monique only represents herself and nothing ticks me off more than someone writing these faux-letters from the masses.
IF you really feel that way, write a real fucking letter FROM YOURSELF to the person/company/whatever. Otherwise it's a trite attempt at cleverness that has no real meaning.
Original Monique represents all of the women in the world, Soupytwist.
Umm...she's far the only woman who feels this way. Of course she can't speak for ALL Women Everywhere, but her opinion on Hillary's quixotic last ditch campaigning is far from a minority opinion.
Soupytwist, if you believed what you just said you would not have posted it, you'd have emailed Dan Savage.
OM raises the specter of Hillary stumping for Obama and that is kind of gross when you think about it.
Obama should agree to adopt Clinton and Edwards' health care plan.
And then she should quit.
Dear Soupytwist,
Don't be jealous.
Love,
Everyone
Original Monique, please crosspost your letter here with others like it: http://nicetrygiveup.com/
Well put, Monique.
Catch thearticle in the NYT earlier this week, noting Hillary's current irrationality is fucking up her position in the Senate?
It was always clear to me HRC was, is and will be the better senator than Obama. It's infuriating to see her piss away her political future.
Elenchos,
She does need to wave the hat for Obama, cool the nerves of old feminists, and get her supporters (a good number, btw) to back Obama.
I am not saying that people won't generally just gravitate toward him, but it is a good move on her part to just be gracious now, and put energy to helping the party. And that means stumping (to some degree) for Obama.
Original Monique takes her best shot at euthanizing the Unity Pony.
Nice try, sweetie.
I'm bored with people that claim that Hillary is their only chance to vote for a female candidate for the Presidency. Really? Hillary? That's all you've got. I say back to the drawing board or lab or whatever if that's the only choice we've got in the next 30-50 years. Pathetic.
RonK, is the only shot at unity in the democratic party made available by hillary winning? what does obama have to do to unite the party other than dropping out?
I think all marriages between human beings should be legal: provided that 1)all parties are legally adults, and all parties are mentally competent to ensure nobody is taken advantage of. With those conditions met, marry 5 guys and 3 women for all I care.
Dear Original Monique,
Speak for yourself. Calling Hillary (pandering, scolding, sensible-shoes Hillary!) "sweetheart" makes us vomit a little bit in our mouths.
XOX,
Everyone Else.
That letter is horrible: "just smile and wave"? That's what empty headed first ladies like Pat Nixon were told to do. This strikes me as horribly patronizing and anti-feminist. "I probably won't see a woman president in my life time": is O. M. 80- something?
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Wow, that wasn't patronizing or anything.
Did I miss something, or has Hillary still been winning primaries? Did Obama get enough delegates to take the nomination cleanly while I was, oh, having a life?
This primary isn't over yet. Stop trying to disenfranchise the people who voted for her.
And stop being so f-ing condescending.
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It ain't going to happen. If anything she'll silently work behind the scenes for McCain so she can have a clear path to run again in four years. It's all about personal ambition.
I think it's a little weird that the letter is from "Women everywhere"? Why not "your supporters" or "your former supporters" or "people who like you but think it's time to move on"?
Having it be from "women" sort of presumes that women were the only ones supporting her. There doesn't seem to be anything in the letter that's particular to a female perspective, so it's curious to me...
really, hillary isn't our only chance at a female president EVER. she's just the first woman to get this close. yes she faced a lot of sexism, but she also ran a *terrible* campaign. she earned her loss fair and square (and she's definitely not doing feminism any favors by teathering the cause to her sinking ship).
Whoa. Original Monique was one of the hardest-core Hillary supporters around.
I should know--I was out with her one one of the big primary nights, and got an earful (or two...)
This is a beautiful post by Original Monique.
And one hopes the next week will end this period on a high note, for everyone's sake.
I was for Hillary back in January, but I have been disgusted by the way she and Bill have campaigned. I am also deeply disappointed in Geraldine Ferraro, who was a hero of mine as a teen.
p.s. next time consider not voting for an obviously ginned-up war and then providing cover for the same bunch of psychopaths and criminals to do it again four years later.
Better luck next lifetime,
--millions of people who otherwise would have been happily voting for you
Is this all Eli Sanders have to post now ? Just pro Odrama pieces all the time? Hillary has every right to take it to the convention so speak for yourself and not women everywhere.
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Did somebody say Hillary had no right to continue? Who?
ok. as an obama supporter and I have been since 2006, I was very surprised to see Obama get the support and votes he's received since the primaries started. Honestly, I thought it'd be Hillary winning. I started donating money to his campaign back in December by going to a private campaign reception at Bell Harbor, and given more money throughout this campaign.
I'll reiterate, I'm amazingly surprised he's the nominee. However, I'm sad to see Hillary fall through many mishaps and poor decisions made during the primary.
"Referencing RFK to Obama then apologizing only to the Kennedy family and not to Obama."
She does not owe Odrama a freaking apology whatsoever. Odrama and his supporters took her words out of context and were so freaking paranoid. RFK's son even defended her.
Hillary's only path to the nomination is the one she noted last week.
Nice letter, Mo. Is Rhett the last SLOG regular still in the Clinton camp? 5280's been pretty scarce lately...
Odrama, we don't owe hillary the opportunity to run for president if the selection process for the nomination makes that impossible.
I referenced "women everywhere" because she is perpetuating the stereotype that Women can't handle a 'big office', hard times, and the like by continuing this.
As a woman, I would have preferred her to exit the race with grace and dignity. She has done neither and I think it just continues the sexism that was against her from the start.
And I know it's *possible* we could have a female win the prez spot, but it just doesn't look good. It's not just the sexism, even strong women leaders on constantly attacked by men and women for being "bitches" et al.
I just want to resign myself that it won't happen, so maybe I will be pleasantly surprised. Just keep expectations low, and dissapointment is hard to come.
PS. Rebecca: I have a lot of love for Hillary, I really do. But she is making an ass of herself and ruining her future.
I'm still wondering how someone could consider the Obama campaign to be more dramatic than the Clinton campaign.
"she is perpetuating the stereotype that Women can't handle a 'big office', hard times, and the like by continuing this"
She hasn't lost officially and she's fighting everything she has. If that's not handling hard times what the hell is.
Blind stubbornness in the face of an obviously pointless campaign is exactly why we're still stuck in Iraq. This is supposed to make Hillary look like a good leader?
Odrama, losing officially is an obvious eventuality for her, and if you want to contest that notion then lets put some money down on her being the presidential nomination barring something happening to obama pre convention. Seriously, the difference between officially losing and losing currently are inseparable at this point.
odrama sounds likes fluteprof
Perhaps since Mike Huckabee hasn't "officially" lost, he should go around telling people that he'd be a better president than McCain and how he's taking this bitch all the way to the convention to, you know, represent the people that voted for him.
That, and if you don't count all the states McCain won, he won the popular vote.
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