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That would be nice, but -sadly - it would most likely just kill a bunch of homeless people.

Posted by Fifty-Two-Eighty | April 15, 2008 9:59 AM
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We could do a lot to help the Viaduct by replacing the seawall - if the Army Corps of Engineers ever get around to starting work. Their web site apparently hasn't been updated since 2006.

Posted by Greg | April 15, 2008 10:48 AM
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Thank you Dan.

Throwing good money after bad, truly.

One of those "The emperor has no clothes" moments.

The irony isn't so satisfying when it's public money or putting people's lives at risk

Posted by jackseattle | April 15, 2008 10:50 AM
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The article says the exact opposite of what Dan got out of it. The viaduct is only settling in one small place, because it's built on piles that go to bedrock. That one place is being shored up, which is causing another 1/8 inch subsidence, which will stop when they leave. It's not collapsing by any conceivable stretch of the imagination.

Posted by Fnarf | April 15, 2008 10:56 AM
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shouldn't straight parents be under there too?

Posted by Yinka | April 15, 2008 11:07 AM
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“settling,” of course, is the polite way of saying, “slow-motion collapse.”

Got a cite for that? Or maybe you're a structural engineer, now? It settled "up to 1/8 of an inch". Wow. Collapse is imminent!

All buildings "settle". Especially those built over water.

Posted by w7ngman | April 15, 2008 11:27 AM
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They can't close it without gridlocking all of West Seattle.

And no, there are not enough buses to offset the loss.

And preemptively STFU about how this would've have happened if we had built the Green Line. No.

Posted by Gomez | April 15, 2008 12:31 PM
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@7,

...and gridlocking downtown (where exactly do they think those buses would run? That's right - on already gridlocked streets).

Heaven forbid reality should intrude on Dan and ECB's faith-based transportation planning.

Posted by Mr. X | April 15, 2008 12:47 PM
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@6: i remember SDOT/WSDOT releasing a maximum amount that section could settle before it was all over. it WAS settling about 1/2"/year. i think that additional 1/8" brought it within 1" of the max.

too bad.

and the correct answer is: when it collapses, it will kill TOURISTS, including many small children.

Posted by max solomon | April 15, 2008 2:05 PM
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@9,

Not correct - they said if it had subsided 6" they would have to do more expensive repairs than the project currently underway. There was no indication that settlement beyond that amount was going to result in closure.


Posted by Mr. X | April 15, 2008 4:26 PM
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Don't worry.

More people than that will die when Rainier goes. Just counting the surviving burn victims from the stochastic mud flows.

Not joking - it's the truth.

Relax about the Viaduct - it's small potatoes.

Posted by Will in Seattle | April 16, 2008 12:37 AM
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oh, and @7 - that's why we need to literally DOUBLE all transit with 4 blocks of the Viaduct ... now.

Posted by Will in Seattle | April 16, 2008 12:40 AM
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@6: Concrete isn't as flexible as you think: the fact that the settling is focused in one place lends itself to the likelihood that some time in the future, we'll see just how inflexible this structure can be.

In fact, concrete is one of the few materials on earth that we as humans use with regularity that can experience what can be considered a "catastrophic" failure focused entirely on its presence.

Posted by Alex-jon | April 16, 2008 8:59 PM

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