Comments on On Stupid Fucking Credulous Hacks Mike Carter and Paul Shukovsky

So why did you have Dominic edit his title, but you didn't edit either of yours?

Slow news day on the hill huh?

Or, what I actually want to ask, how was Dominic's initial title any worse than yours? In fact, it wasn't half as bad.

The Drug War is as bad a waste of American patriots' tax dollars as the Iraq War is.

But it still won't get that 14 acres of prime downtown Seattle real estate between Denny Park and the Ban Roll On building developed - cause the developers pulled the plug today (front page major article in the Wall Street Journal, spills to a full page in the A section).

Which means no building along the streetcar route for most of it's length after Denny and no big increase in streetcar ridership.

Shutting down the grow ops just cuts the cash flow for big building investments ...

Don't ignore me, bitch. Why do Stranger staffers only reply when they're sure their answer is legitimate and/or irrefutable in terms of reason?

What's good for you is good for your staff.

Mr. Poe, darling, I posted this and then when to lunch. Despite appearances, we don't have our laptops strapped to our faces. Not yet. And sometimes Stranger staffers stay out of comments threads because we have other work to do.

As for Dom's header v. my header: I thought Dom's header seemed much angrier the post it appeared on top of, so I asked him to change it. It didn't work. My header is right in line with the tone of my post. It works.

Thank you for playing Slog.

I guess that makes sense. I figured you were ignoring me because you have been up the comments ass on this topic lately. Constantly responding, to everyone, immediately. I need to be punished.

Dude, chill.

Emailed the editor at The Times, received his reply already:

I'm sharing your e-mail with the folks involved in the coverage and with
other decision-makers here. Take care. -- Leon Espinoza, executive news
editor

-----Original Message-----
From: ____ _ [mailto:______@______]
Sent: Friday, April 25, 2008 1:07 PM
To: Leon Espinoza
Subject: Question of fairness

Good afternoon, Mr. Espinoza.

I've been reading the continuing coverage over on The Stranger's Slog
regarding the recent pot bust article in The Seattle Times. I have to
say that The Stranger's staff raises some good questions about
objectivity, and about The Seattle Times' willingness to cover both
sides of the issue or not.

More specifically, they asked:
Do such raids work? Are they cost effective? Are they unnecessarily
dangerous, either to the police or the suspects? Do they actually reduce
the amount of pot on the streets? Do they make us any safer? Would
simply legalizing it make us safer? Does filling our prisons with
everyone involved in pot growing or smoking help or harm society in any
measurable way?

Will The Seattle Times be looking into these questions, and writing any
articles to address them?

Thank you,

_____ _____
Snohomish, WA

Mr. Meany McMeanPants said @6
"Despite appearances, we don't have our laptops strapped to our faces. Not yet. And sometimes Stranger staffers stay out of comments threads because we have other work to do."

Ah, dammit, way to crush my beliefs in the omniscience of the Stranger writers. I thought you guys were hardwired into Slog 24/7. Other work to do? Besides read us bitching? What a letdown.

It's most likely a lie, PopTart. A convinient one, as we have no way to prove it wrong. But I wuvz Dan too much to not shut up and smile. I still need to be punished, though. Hint.

*convenient. FUCK! FUUUUCK!!!

There's a bigger issue here, namely the establishment media's absolute failure in their entire raison d'être which (presumably) is informing the public.

We have more access to information than any other era in human history, yet Americans are even more ignorant, misinformed, and just downright stupid than ever.

There are no facts anymore in loo-loo Mainstream Media Land, only opinions and government press releases. Open lies--hello weapons of mass destruction--are published as without question. Remember that one White House correspondent who said she couldn't ask Bush about his lies since she was intimidated by the Office of the President? She's STILL a political correspondent!! (Of course).

FSM help me, I don't want to sound like one of those looney tunes commenters on Alternet or HuffPo, but for fuck's sake, how can people stand this Pravda-esque bullshit?

It's no wonder politicians treat the media and the public with such open contempt.

So, Dan... were either of them at the benefit last night? Did they talk with you? Are there comments off-the-record?

When can we start mailing them something?

@11, and what, Mr. Poe, would be an adequate punishment for you? Would it involve a muppet costume?

Nah, I think anything Dan would dish out you'd like way too much. Unless it was taping your eyelids open and being forced to read ECB's posts while simultaneously listening to her read them. That might do it.

They weren't there—or, if they were, no one had the nerve to introduce us.

@16

...that would have been awkward, anyway. Mike would have been cool about it. The other guy (whatever his name is shukubanakakaru) would have been a total douche.

@15

I love ECB's posts.

A fitting punishment for Mr. Poe, You are now ordered to be a judge for the KISW Rock Girls 2008 contest.

I mean if you want punishment, we will give you punishment you won't like.

Isn't it obvious by now? The institution of government pays huge numbers of people, huge amounts of dollars to do the same worthless, even harmful things over and over. It is self sustaining, self lobbying public relations jack. They are never going to give up their addiction to anti-drug money no matter how harmful it, and they, may be. And as long as we support the never ending growing field of incarcerations and billions of dollars for more and more prisons it shall always be. Now isn't it better to be a lap dog? It's so much more comfortable.

@17 Oh, sorry, my bad. Now I have to be punished.

Punishment for everyone! Where's the rope?!

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If you and Carter ever duked it out, I'd put my money on Carter - Muddafugga's and looks like a roadie for Motorhead.

You do all realize the Times just laid off 200 and the PI was *this* close to being closed altogether about a year ago, no?

Lazy reporting happens more often than good reporting because good reporting is more expensive -- much more expensive -- in terms of both time and money. Two things neither paper has much of right now.

What came first in the newspaper biz, the degenerating product or the degenerating business model? The degenerating product, actually, but now these papers are on a death spiral that's going to get worse before it gets better, so don't expect a big turnaround in depth of coverage on stories that are already conveniently covered in government press releases.

This all is a good opportunity for papers like the Stranger to pick up the slack and segue from their trademark snarky pee-pee bar-scene reporting to more useful reporting, but that doesn't seem to be happening. Or maybe the big, heavily researched Stranger cover story on the effects of the drug war is in production now. Looking forward to it.

24 has hit upon it: time, money, resources. they are sorely lacking in the news biz theze daze. expect more of same. blogs have taken over for in-depth reporting, it seems. bloggers do it on their own time, reporters are on a deadline and a budget.