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Wasn't there a bad James Spader / Kurt Russell sci-fi movie that explained all that?
It's fake.
Palimpsest
I'd guess some artist got creative in the 1968 war.....
If you look at the helicopter sideways, it looks like a perfectly normal hieroglyph.
It's all L. Ron Hubbard's (and by association, Tom Cruise's) fault.
I would say there are renditions of other things that happen to look like modern modes of transportations. For example the letter b looks kind of like a toilet and the letter y like a flux capacitor.
Oh, no! The pod people got hold of Amy Kate while she was in Egypt! Wherever she is, please send her back; one space alien on the staff (Mudede) is all we can handle.
Steve Sher on KUOW just announced that The Stranger has named a new News Editor.
On the upper left corner. OMG! An ipod!
the brain sees what it wants to see. schemas.
Who is the new editor? ECB? ECB? ECB? ECB? Oh, it's somebody completely new, isn't it?
Oh,
I guess it's easier to believe in time travel then.
@13, Well he did say "Erica C. Barnett news editor at the Stranger"...
About the mystery beam, I bet someone got in a lot of trouble thousands of years ago for installing it upside down...
Oops, meant @12. Though either could apply.
That was all explained in season 3 of Stargate.
I saw an illustration of the characters that would overlay to create these images on a program by the History or Discovery channel. It was convincing. Well, convincing enough to debunk the "it was aliens!" theory. I'd find a link, but I'm lazy.
You all are so young. Don't impressionable junior-high stoners read Erich von Daniken anymore?
If the ancient Egyptians had really seen helicopters or warplanes, their representations of them would be more prominent than the carved corner of some lintel. The characters in question could be recent carvings, or could be modern eyes reinterpreting ancient symbols, but they aren't "real".
That is obviously not an airplane... Its a speed boat.
@19 - You're assuming all the ancient Egyptians saw these things. Clearly, this is the case of some 20th century archaeologist who accidentally became stranded in ancient Egypt and was in charge of that particular corner of that particular lintel and had his own private joke on his colleagues back in the future.
@18 - I'm with you Fnarf. This is total Chariots of the Gods. I love me some ancient astronauts.
i wonder what was drawn on the piece that fell off.... probably something cool from the future. only now, we'll never know.
That piece that broke off? Oh, that was just the directions for making an FTL drive. Nothing important.
Probably the same aliens who left that astronaut on that 12th century cathedral, cruising through time just messin' with us.
On a bit serious note... Amy, you say that you are "hard-nosed skeptic in all matters supernatural," but you claim that the erosion explanation is hard to swallow. Why is that? What is more likely:
1. That ancient Egyptians had helicopters, submarines, etc, but their depictions only appear in this one place (as @19 said)
or
2. The process of erosion and layering together with the human desire to seek out patters just happens to come up with what looks like a helicopter or submarine.
What we know about ancient Egyptians, together with lack of evidence of any technology advanced enough to construct a working helicopter taken together should, as a skeptic, lead you to conclusion 2.
i own a "i want to beleive" poster.
but one could also equate this to a little kid looking at his poo in a toilet and imagining what sorts of animals and religious symbols they create. tea leaves for toddlers.
the design of helicopters, submarines, and airplanes didn't come out of "thin air" so to speak. Rather, they were designed using forms borrowed from the natural world. Things like fish, birds, and flies. So, perhaps the ancient egyptian who made the carvings weren't referencing modern contraptions but rather the forms these modern contraptions were design from.
@1: How DARE you insult Stargate!!!
If Ramessess had helicopters, Moses' parting of the Red Sea would have been stupid and non-productive now, wouldn't it?
@1: There's no such thing as a bad James Spader/Kurt Russell sci-fi movie.
"Stargate" sucks.
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