Slog - Comments on Low-Income Housing Is the Neighborhood's Biggest Problem… http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/04/lowincome_housing_is_the_neighborhoods_b …according to a poll at the High Point Blog. But by “problem,” the poll’s author doesn’t mean there’s too little low-income housing in West Seattle's mixed-income development. The problem, obviously, is the very presence of low-income housing. As the High Point Blog sees it, the greatest stumbling block to the success of the new and improved High Point is its low-income housing…. …the maintenance (or lack thereof) by pov-housing residents to maintain the exteriors and window coverings of their dwellings…that is to say.. crazy furniture in the windows, torn curtains, kitschy statuary and signage in windows etc…. the constant feeling... Copyright 2008 Thu, 17 Apr 2008 12:36:18 -0800 Thu, 17 Apr 2008 18:40:26 -0800 http://www.movabletype.org/?v=3.34 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Comment by Ziggity Pffft. 'Gaylord.'

]]> Ziggity http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/04/lowincome_housing_is_the_neighborhoods_b#c1000830 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/04/lowincome_housing_is_the_neighborhoods_b#c1000830 Boom Thu, 17 Apr 2008 12:47:23 -0800 Comment by Hernandez Holy crap, that blog post has some choice quotes:

"We all just didn’t pimp out our rides and jump our neighbors when we were poor."

"Has anyone else heard the Islamic music wafting through the streets??"

"the large posses of “questionable” people as bk so delicately put it, taking up the whole street day and night as motorists try simply to drive in the neighborhood"

In other words, "Get those n******s out of our neighborhood!"

I want to hire some bums to shit in their driveways.

]]> Hernandez http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/04/lowincome_housing_is_the_neighborhoods_b#c1000837 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/04/lowincome_housing_is_the_neighborhoods_b#c1000837 Boom Thu, 17 Apr 2008 12:50:52 -0800 Comment by El Seven Obviously, the most effective way to keep the peace in this area is to make sure that all persons are carrying concealed weapons.

]]> El Seven http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/04/lowincome_housing_is_the_neighborhoods_b#c1000841 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/04/lowincome_housing_is_the_neighborhoods_b#c1000841 Boom Thu, 17 Apr 2008 12:52:54 -0800 Comment by Fnarf A blog operated by a malcontent is not anymore representative than a guy from a "neighborhood association" who shows up at some meeting.

]]> Fnarf http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/04/lowincome_housing_is_the_neighborhoods_b#c1000865 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/04/lowincome_housing_is_the_neighborhoods_b#c1000865 Boom Thu, 17 Apr 2008 13:11:35 -0800 Comment by laterite How fucking precious.


"...torn curtains, kitschy statuary and signage in windows etc."


Oh dear, not kitschy statuary! Will the horrors never end?


Tangiers is ten times as interesting as West Seattle.

]]> laterite http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/04/lowincome_housing_is_the_neighborhoods_b#c1000871 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/04/lowincome_housing_is_the_neighborhoods_b#c1000871 Boom Thu, 17 Apr 2008 13:14:01 -0800 Comment by Hernandez @4 - Very true. I just read through the comments on that post, and most of the HP residents who commented seem to have much more tempered assessments of the situation.

]]> Hernandez http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/04/lowincome_housing_is_the_neighborhoods_b#c1000890 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/04/lowincome_housing_is_the_neighborhoods_b#c1000890 Boom Thu, 17 Apr 2008 13:25:58 -0800 Comment by RobCrowe Have lived next to SHA near Harborview and regular visit a townhouse across another such development. Where are these "pimped out" rides? One does hear and see high-spirited kids. And the male adolescent from 14-25 in groups is always a hazard. But then on 10th with its 600 sq. ft $300,000 cottages, you occasionally get white hipsters playing in the street with the radio on and blasts of very bad dance music from Julia's or the Thai restaurant, not to mention stumbling gay men singing opera. (The last is not acceptable and I will be going to revived Council to complain of this menace.) And strangely most of your trendy grocery stores end up in or near areas that have such so-called issues. The Massive Quantities style of retail popular in the 'burbs is not really what either Trader Joe's or Whole Foods is into. Not to say low-income housing would attract such things--which in any case seem to be on their way now to High Point or in a few years from now because, well, the economy has lost (cue Carl Sagan)"billions and billions" of dollars--but that all trendy neighborhoods with their trendy things have unseemly annoyances. You want quiet and country in Seattle, move to Magnolia and drive everywhere. Perhaps I don't hear this discussion very well because where I grew up, High Point was the center of furniture market, but not much else. Maybe the name itself is a problem.

]]> RobCrowe http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/04/lowincome_housing_is_the_neighborhoods_b#c1000893 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/04/lowincome_housing_is_the_neighborhoods_b#c1000893 Boom Thu, 17 Apr 2008 13:27:02 -0800 Comment by Charlie A blog operated by a malcontent is not anymore representative than a guy from a "neighborhood association" who shows up at some meeting.

So right. And a poll with only 150 votes on a dead blog makes it even less relevant. Take a look at the posts on HPB.

There was one on Jan. 25 about the blog having been "dead for awhile" and plans to "bring it back" followed by one post four days later and nothing since.

HPB is irrelevant.

If that's not enough, the post before Jan. 25 was from Dec. 20 and encouraged people to join Ron Paul's "R3volution."

]]> Charlie http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/04/lowincome_housing_is_the_neighborhoods_b#c1000913 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/04/lowincome_housing_is_the_neighborhoods_b#c1000913 Boom Thu, 17 Apr 2008 13:38:59 -0800 Comment by max solomon don't like High Point? don't buy there.

and its more like Mogadishu than Tangiers.

]]> max solomon http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/04/lowincome_housing_is_the_neighborhoods_b#c1000939 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/04/lowincome_housing_is_the_neighborhoods_b#c1000939 Boom Thu, 17 Apr 2008 13:48:59 -0800 Comment by White I think they are forgetting that these elements actually raise property values: http://stuffwhitepeoplelike.wordpress.com/2008/02/22/73-gentrification/

]]> White http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/04/lowincome_housing_is_the_neighborhoods_b#c1000945 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/04/lowincome_housing_is_the_neighborhoods_b#c1000945 Boom Thu, 17 Apr 2008 13:53:05 -0800 Comment by k That really makes me want to buy myself some kitschy statuary, ratty curtains and world music and move to High Point.

]]> k http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/04/lowincome_housing_is_the_neighborhoods_b#c1000976 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/04/lowincome_housing_is_the_neighborhoods_b#c1000976 Boom Thu, 17 Apr 2008 14:10:57 -0800 Comment by Original Andrew

Well for seriously, you have to question the sanity of a xenophobic/borderline racist who willingly moves into a neighborhood filled with people that he hates. Probably just another garden variety narcissist who has no idea that the world doesn't revolve around him.

Hey HPB,

Duuuuuuuuuuuhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!

]]> Original Andrew http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/04/lowincome_housing_is_the_neighborhoods_b#c1001010 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/04/lowincome_housing_is_the_neighborhoods_b#c1001010 Boom Thu, 17 Apr 2008 14:26:22 -0800 Comment by Will in Seattle Once again, the obvious solution of mixed-income housing glaringly is ignored by the Powers That Be ...

]]> Will in Seattle http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/04/lowincome_housing_is_the_neighborhoods_b#c1001082 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/04/lowincome_housing_is_the_neighborhoods_b#c1001082 Boom Thu, 17 Apr 2008 15:23:11 -0800 Comment by Fnarf Will, you halfwit, this IS mixed-income housing.

]]> Fnarf http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/04/lowincome_housing_is_the_neighborhoods_b#c1001159 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/04/lowincome_housing_is_the_neighborhoods_b#c1001159 Boom Thu, 17 Apr 2008 16:25:12 -0800 Comment by Will in Seattle Not really, it's segregated income housing. Mixed is when it doesn't have extreme variations but is leavened so that you don't get concentrations.

I vote we put all the poor people in Fnarf's neighborhood and surround it with trees that block views for the people outside that ...

]]> Will in Seattle http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/04/lowincome_housing_is_the_neighborhoods_b#c1001244 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/04/lowincome_housing_is_the_neighborhoods_b#c1001244 Boom Thu, 17 Apr 2008 17:27:56 -0800 Comment by croydonfacelift This blogger is really kind of an imbecile, but not because he objects to "the large posses of “questionable” people ... taking up the whole street day and night as motorists try simply to drive in the neighborhood." Any sane person should object to that. He's an imbecile because these projects are not rental units, where most of the threatening and obnoxious losers live. More ownership means more eyes on the street, and more resistance to the takeover of the neighborhood by posses of hyenas. Why wouldn't he want that?

]]> croydonfacelift http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/04/lowincome_housing_is_the_neighborhoods_b#c1001324 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/04/lowincome_housing_is_the_neighborhoods_b#c1001324 Boom Thu, 17 Apr 2008 18:40:26 -0800