1. was the light yellow/red when the cyclist was passing through the intersection?
2. was the pedestrian jumping the gun and crossing when the light was yellow?

if we have a yes to #1 then the cyclist is certainly an asshat and deserves that awesome road rash. if we have yes to #2 that asshat pedestrian was lucky it wasn't a car. traffic is a system, systems have rules, and if the rules aren't followed the system breaks down and people get hurt. either way i hope that taught both of them to pay better attention and be a bit more conservative when traffic is involved.

Tell that to every driver on the road. It'll be a revelation to them.

Even if the ped was illegally crossing or "jumping the gun" any vehicle inc. car or bike has a duty to not hit a ped.

"traffic is a system, systems have rules, and if the rules aren't followed the system breaks down and people get hurt"
but hey one of the rules of the road is everyone has to have due care and not hit other folks EVEN IF the other folk is jaywalking, running red lihgt, etc.

This is why trials cost so much.

At a depeer level a better system would avoid all this intense fact inquiry and fairness and simply roesume a movign vehicle hitting a ped is the vehicles fault and suspend their license.

Why then all the vehicle operators would be more careful.

Also a good system would say put a damn license on that bike so the cyclist couldn't jump back on his bike and run away -- at least a witness would have a chance to take down his license tag.

But oh no, cyclists are green, so to have them pay $25 a year and get a tag is fascist, etc. etc.

These types of solutions would work, so we'll never enact them.

Oh btw -- yes if we are jurors in a trial we should withhold judgment but as citizens we can make judgments whenever we like even without normalized blind studies, regression analysis, peer review, the right to cross examine, etc.

The world is full of asshats with all modes of transportation.

SMC 11.40.060

Prohibited crossing.

No pedestrian shall suddenly leave a curb or other place of safety and move into the path of a vehicle which is so close that it is
impossible for the driver to stop.

while everyone has their own biases in this situation, certainly plenty of peds jaywalk. and, walking or driving, it is more difficult to see a bicycle (or motorcyle) than an oncoming car.

While most bicyclists are respectful, there is a handful who have utter disregard for pedestrians while whining about the disregard that motorists have for them.

I never said that the pedestrian wasn't wrong, perhaps he was. But a bicyclist that flies through the air after hitting the pedestrian was going too fast for the road conditions.

We all need to start paying more attention to our surroundings. There are too many morons out there, including me.

Why hasn't ECB chimed in with her predictable bullshit?

I'm surprised this doesn't happen more often in the U Dist - most people here jaywalk without even looking at traffic.

LOOK WHERE YOU ARE GOING.

Thank you.

http://www.metrokc.gov/health/injury/pedestrian.htm

Sure, some cyclists are jerks. But car driving jerks are

a) far, far, more common

b) far, far, more deadly

Cyclists are a minority who as a whole make you richer and healthier. (They lower your health insurance, clean up your air, and lower your gas prices.)

So hate the jerks of all sorts, sure. But keep it in context...

I think peds aren't used to bikes - a bike moving as fast as a car doesn't seem like it, and people decide to jaywalk without realizing they're going to get run over.

Should a biker be forced to yell at every intersection? Do cars honk at every intersection?

As it's described, I'm with the biker on this occasion.

If you can't demonize cyclists, pedestrians, vegans, pitbulls and their owners, rightwingnuts, the mayor, Clay Bennett/OKC, the religious establishment, or HRC/Obamatons, who can you demonize?

"Whom." Whom can one demonize? One can demonize another who uses poor grammar.

then, @26 you deny it but still insist that flying over the handlebars means you must be going too fast. this even though flying over the handlebars could easily happen at slow speeds, and even though the bike was likely not exceeding the speed limit.

and now, @43, you are mad that bikes go on sidewalks -- even though it is legal.

so, you want bikes to be on the street, but not to drive fast, and to be liable if they hit anyone who steps out in front of them.

please just give it up. you are obviously biased against cyclists.

So what we need to do is start taxing iPods and cell phones - then everyone will be more aware. Then we can build The Monorail.

@49. whatever. he can sue, but if the ped was in the wrong, he's not going to get much. in fact, if that is the case, the cyclist should sue the guy. i mean, the cyclist should sue the piss out of this guy.

it never ceases to amaze me that you have one bad experience with a cyclist -- that you may have exaggerated or made up altogether -- and suddenly every cyclist is evil. what's with that reasoning?

i was rear-ended by a minivan who was completely at fault. so what now? screw all minivans drivers? i was hit by a camero. screw all camero drivers? well, maybe that's one we can get behind...

Except for a cut lip, she was fine, just very shaken up, as anyone would be. After a couple of minutes she went from nauseous, slightly incoherent, and panicked to sitting up under her own power. By the time the paramedics arrived she was back to coherent. She didn't have a concussion, didn't have to go to the hospital. The police allowed the cyclist to leave, as they determined he wasn't at fault, and the woman continued on her way home.

It should also be noted that she was crossing against the light (which we've all done) and was on her way home, probably with other things on her mind, as we all have done from time to time. She wasn't on a cell phone.

In conclusion, I know these posts are always sounding boards for speculation on who's at fault, who should have known better, and your own axes to grind, but everyone involved, from the other bystanders, to the police, to the cyclist, to the security guards and doorman, all behaved like concerned, compassionate, and responsible people helping someone in need after an accident that could have happened to anyone.

p.s. She didn't have any cell phone when she was crossing the street. Are people not allowed to be distracted by a day at work anymore?

Except for a cut lip, she was fine, just very shaken up, as anyone would be. After a couple of minutes she went from nauseous, slightly incoherent, and panicked to sitting up under her own power. By the time the paramedics arrived she was back to coherent. She didn't have a concussion, didn't have to go to the hospital. The police allowed the cyclist to leave, as they determined he wasn't at fault, and the woman continued on her way home.

It should also be noted that she was crossing against the light (which we've all done) and was on her way home, probably with other things on her mind, as we all have done from time to time. She wasn't on a cell phone.

In conclusion, I know these posts are always sounding boards for speculation on who's at fault, who should have known better, and your own axes to grind, but everyone involved, from the other bystanders, to the police, to the cyclist, to the security guards and doorman, all behaved like concerned, compassionate, and responsible people helping someone in need after an accident that could have happened to anyone.

p.s. She didn't have any cell phone when she was crossing the street. Are people not allowed to be distracted by a day at work anymore?

I sure don't want to hit any of these numbskulls and I'm sure they don't wanna be hit cuz clearly it's gonna hurt... both of us.

And, finally, if the walk signal turned and the cyclist ran the red - screw him/her for makaing the rest of us who ride every day look like dicks. That ped will never forget and may never forgive. Every time that suit see's me, he's gonna think of you - so don't ride like a dick.

On a lighter note, maybe we should have all pedestrians wear helmets while crossing roads.