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<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/04/hot_air_hillary</link>
<description> Hillary Clinton&apos;s statement on the situation in Zimbabwe: The coming days will determine whether Zimbabwe moves toward a bright future, or sees its hopes turned back through violent repression. It is an anxious, uncertain moment, yet also potentially a historic opportunity for this long-suffering country. The very real, disturbing possibility exists of a coerced, fake electoral re-run and, alternatively, of martial law. Strong international pressure is needed now to reduce the possibility of these outcomes. How about military action against a cruel dictator? She has authorized the use of force against another dictator, why not this one?...</description>
<copyright>Copyright 2008</copyright>
<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2008 12:24:24 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by El Seven</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>"She has authorized the use of force against another dictator, why not this one?"</p>

<p>Dunno.  Do they have oil or anything else I can use over there?</p>]]></description>
<author>El Seven</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/04/hot_air_hillary#c990152</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/04/hot_air_hillary#c990152</guid>
<category>2008</category>
<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2008 12:36:03 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by jamier</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>From the CIA world factbook:</p>

<p><b>Iraq</b><br />
Oil - production: 2.11 million bbl/day (2007 est.)<br />
Oil - proved reserves: 115 billion bbl (1 January 2007 est.)</p>

<p><b>Iran</b><br />
Oil - production: 4.15 million bbl/day (2006 est.)<br />
Oil - proved reserves: 132.5 billion bbl based on Iranian claims (1 January 2006 est.)</p>

<p><b>Zimbabwe</b><br />
Oil - production: 0 bbl/day (2005 est.)<br />
Oil - proved reserves: 0 bbl (1 January 2006 est.)</p>]]></description>
<author>jamier</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/04/hot_air_hillary#c990157</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/04/hot_air_hillary#c990157</guid>
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<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2008 12:38:30 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by keshmeshi</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Also, unlike South Africa, Zimbabwe pretty much has no natural resources.  They have lots of fertile land and labor, and that's about it.</p>]]></description>
<author>keshmeshi</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/04/hot_air_hillary#c990188</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/04/hot_air_hillary#c990188</guid>
<category>2008</category>
<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2008 12:53:42 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Westside forever</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>A: they have no oil.</p>

<p>B: unlike the Bosnians, the Zimbabwians are not white, and therefore, nobody gives a fuck.</p>

<p>What I want to know is why many other leaders in Africa are so leery to condemn Mugabe? </p>]]></description>
<author>Westside forever</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/04/hot_air_hillary#c990189</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/04/hot_air_hillary#c990189</guid>
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<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2008 12:54:45 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Mike in MO</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>there you go, trying to make sense again. Haven't you learned by now?</p>]]></description>
<author>Mike in MO</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/04/hot_air_hillary#c990194</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/04/hot_air_hillary#c990194</guid>
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<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2008 13:00:14 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Will in Seattle</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Hmm. No oil.</p>

<p>So, do they have Malaria or TB or HIV/AIDS?</p>

<p>Maybe Bill Gates could do something ...</p>]]></description>
<author>Will in Seattle</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/04/hot_air_hillary#c990199</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/04/hot_air_hillary#c990199</guid>
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<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2008 13:03:35 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Will/HA</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Because Iraq wasn't enough fun, we've got to open a branch office in Africa?</p>]]></description>
<author>Will/HA</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/04/hot_air_hillary#c990209</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/04/hot_air_hillary#c990209</guid>
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<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2008 13:10:55 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by ecce homo</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>I thought you supported Mugabe's violent and murderous expulsion of white farmers in the name of black nationalism?</p>

<p>Doesn't Marxism and Nationalism go hand in hand?</p>]]></description>
<author>ecce homo</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/04/hot_air_hillary#c990211</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/04/hot_air_hillary#c990211</guid>
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<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2008 13:11:39 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by LINUS</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>wow for some reason my keyboArd wont let me type my name or e-mail address with a lower case I or A...wierd</p>

<p><br />
there were whites in zimbabwe....we're called rhodesians and we left twenty years ago when the pc community sold my mothers country to a bunch of thugz....if we shot mugabe would it really change african politics for the better...I say we do it but there's no gurantee that that country will be anymore but another musical dictator baskiet case of a country</p>]]></description>
<author>LINUS</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/04/hot_air_hillary#c990218</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/04/hot_air_hillary#c990218</guid>
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<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2008 13:15:50 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by You_Gotta_Be_Kidding_Me</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>How would doing so be in our interest?</p>]]></description>
<author>You_Gotta_Be_Kidding_Me</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/04/hot_air_hillary#c990232</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/04/hot_air_hillary#c990232</guid>
<category>2008</category>
<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2008 13:23:36 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by AMB</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>"She has authorized the use of force against another dictator, why not this one?"</p>

<p>Probably because the American public generally doesn't give a fuck. If there was a popular sentiment that we should be intervening, you can bet she'd be leading the charge.</p>]]></description>
<author>AMB</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/04/hot_air_hillary#c990254</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/04/hot_air_hillary#c990254</guid>
<category>2008</category>
<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2008 13:40:50 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Fnarf</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>I asked this same question in February 2003.</p>]]></description>
<author>Fnarf</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/04/hot_air_hillary#c990256</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/04/hot_air_hillary#c990256</guid>
<category>2008</category>
<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2008 13:41:42 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by keshmeshi</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>@9,</p>

<p>The "pc" community doesn't like virtual genocide.  Assuming you have any connection to Zimbabwe*, formerly Rhodesia, your family deserved to get booted out.</p>

<p><br />
*Of course, you are becoming well known for posting complete fabrications on Slog.  I'll believe it when I see it.</p>]]></description>
<author>keshmeshi</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/04/hot_air_hillary#c990275</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/04/hot_air_hillary#c990275</guid>
<category>2008</category>
<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2008 13:53:51 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by tsm</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Do they at least have some mining interests? Precious metals? That might warrant a Cruise missile or two.</p>]]></description>
<author>tsm</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/04/hot_air_hillary#c990343</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/04/hot_air_hillary#c990343</guid>
<category>2008</category>
<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2008 14:34:39 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by w7ngman</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>"Doesn't Marxism and Nationalism go hand in hand?"</p>

<p>No.</p>

<p>(This has been another edition of simple answers to stupid questions)</p>]]></description>
<author>w7ngman</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/04/hot_air_hillary#c990350</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/04/hot_air_hillary#c990350</guid>
<category>2008</category>
<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2008 14:37:25 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by w7ngman</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>"Probably because the American public generally doesn't give a fuck. If there was a popular sentiment that we should be intervening, you can bet she'd be leading the charge."</p>

<p>I don't like this assumption for two reasons.</p>

<p>First, popular sentiment is not always reliable, and we trust politicians to overrule it where appropriate. The public can be coerced. See: Iraq war.</p>

<p>Second, this is sort of the same idea, but she isn't exactly leading the charge to end that war now that public sentiment has turned against it.</p>]]></description>
<author>w7ngman</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/04/hot_air_hillary#c990366</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/04/hot_air_hillary#c990366</guid>
<category>2008</category>
<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2008 14:50:24 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by tsm</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>@16 - the public wasn't coerced, just duped. It's a straightforward thing: if Bush wanted to invade Zimbabwe, he'd have just invented some semblance of a link to Osama bin Laden, and Bill Kristol & co. would repeat it over and over and over until it became truthy.</p>

<p>As for why Hillary isn't ending the war, that would be because (1) among her base is a particular constituency that actually still likes the war; and (2) she's afraid to take a strong stance that could later be used by right-wingers to say she "sold us out". (Which is kind of related to the cowardice that led her to vote yes on it in the first place).</p>]]></description>
<author>tsm</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/04/hot_air_hillary#c990376</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/04/hot_air_hillary#c990376</guid>
<category>2008</category>
<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2008 14:56:54 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by linus</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>what the hell are you talking about #13....genocide? first off the majority of the armned forces were black and opposed robert mugabes zanu party! the fighting was largly confned to the borders...power was transfred to a moderate black party WHO WON THE ELECTION in 79. but the international community REFUSED to recognize any result where mugabe was not the victor</p>

<p>and whats all this about fabrications...I think you have me confused with someone else</p>]]></description>
<author>linus</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/04/hot_air_hillary#c990382</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/04/hot_air_hillary#c990382</guid>
<category>2008</category>
<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2008 14:59:58 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Lydia</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Have you lost your mind? At this point, our army is probably stretched too thin to respond even to actual threats to our national security. There's no way in hell we could put enough troops on the ground in Zimbabwe to make any kind of positive difference.</p>

<p>I'm in the Army, and I'm so tired of hearing idiots who have never served and will never serve go on about how the U.S. should use our troops to solve human rights problems in this country or that country. You want to send U.S. soldiers to Zimbabwe? Why don't you enlist, do a couple of tours in Iraq, and then tell me about how you think the U.S. should get involved in another nightmarish foreign quagmire? </p>]]></description>
<author>Lydia</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/04/hot_air_hillary#c990459</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/04/hot_air_hillary#c990459</guid>
<category>2008</category>
<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2008 15:41:47 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Big Sven</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Lydia@19-</p>

<p>Charles wasn't serious.  This was just reminder number 356,915,231 that Clinton voted for the war authorization.  Obama supporters keep repeating it the way devout Catholics repeat their Hail Marys.  It helps them ignore the fact their candidate has peaked already and will be way down the far slope by the time of the convention.</p>

<p>Thank you for volunteering to serve our country, by the way.  There are many of us who think that patriotism and liberalism aren't mutually exclusive.  We just don't normally have the loudest voices around here.</p>]]></description>
<author>Big Sven</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/04/hot_air_hillary#c990522</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/04/hot_air_hillary#c990522</guid>
<category>2008</category>
<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2008 16:35:20 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by LINUS</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>dont we have our own problems with corrupt kleptocrats? why cant we focus on dealing with our own before getting into others busness</p>]]></description>
<author>LINUS</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/04/hot_air_hillary#c990577</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/04/hot_air_hillary#c990577</guid>
<category>2008</category>
<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2008 17:19:15 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Fnarf</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Lydia @19: the point Charles is making isn't that we should use military force to topple this dictator; it's that we shouldn't have used it to topple THAT one, either.<br /><br />
The oil justification is stupid. We could have had all the Iraqi oil we wanted -- much more than we will ever see now, and at a much lower price -- if we'd left the godforsaken country alone.</p>]]></description>
<author>Fnarf</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/04/hot_air_hillary#c990629</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/04/hot_air_hillary#c990629</guid>
<category>2008</category>
<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2008 18:50:28 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Lydia</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, I guess I've just gotten to have a knee-jerk bad reaction to this kind of rhetoric, after all the civilians I've heard going on about how we should send troops to Darfur, or Burma, or Palestine, or wherever. </p>]]></description>
<author>Lydia</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/04/hot_air_hillary#c990784</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/04/hot_air_hillary#c990784</guid>
<category>2008</category>
<pubDate>Sat, 05 Apr 2008 11:37:47 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Kabuto pnmkw</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>You are the greatist! <br />
<a href=" <a href=" rel="nofollow">http://www.newfxlive.com/forex-made-easy-software.html</a> " target="_top">forex made easy software</p>]]></description>
<author>Kabuto pnmkw</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/04/hot_air_hillary#c992606</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/04/hot_air_hillary#c992606</guid>
<category>2008</category>
<pubDate>Mon, 07 Apr 2008 23:52:45 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Kabuto pnmkw</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>You are the greatist! <br />
<a href=" <a href=" rel="nofollow">http://www.newfxlive.com/forex-made-easy-software.html</a> " target="_top">forex made easy software</p>]]></description>
<author>Kabuto pnmkw</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/04/hot_air_hillary#c992607</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/04/hot_air_hillary#c992607</guid>
<category>2008</category>
<pubDate>Mon, 07 Apr 2008 23:52:58 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Kabuto pnmkw</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>You are the greatist! <br />
<a href=" <a href=" rel="nofollow">http://www.newfxlive.com/forex-made-easy-software.html</a> " target="_top">forex made easy software</p>]]></description>
<author>Kabuto pnmkw</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/04/hot_air_hillary#c992608</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/04/hot_air_hillary#c992608</guid>
<category>2008</category>
<pubDate>Mon, 07 Apr 2008 23:53:10 -0800</pubDate>
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