Slog - Comments on Every Child Deserves a Mother and a Father... http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/04/every_child_deserves_a_mother_and_a_fath_54 ...and a grandfather. Authorities in Austria are trying to piece together the details of how a 73-year-old man managed to keep his daughter imprisoned in a windowless cellar for 24 years while he repeatedly raped her and fathered her seven children. Police said the 42-year-old woman, identified only as Elisabeth F, told them her father, Josef, had lured her into the basement of the block where the family lived in Amstetten, north-west Austria, on August 24 1984, and allegedly drugged and handcuffed her before locking her up in the dungeon. A police spokesman said she was "psychologically extremely disturbed", but... Copyright 2008 Sun, 27 Apr 2008 22:00:06 -0800 Mon, 28 Apr 2008 14:30:41 -0800 http://www.movabletype.org/?v=3.34 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Comment by UNPAID BLOGGER I am Jack's complete sense of horror.

]]> UNPAID BLOGGER http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/04/every_child_deserves_a_mother_and_a_fath_54#c1007677 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/04/every_child_deserves_a_mother_and_a_fath_54#c1007677 Hetero Sun, 27 Apr 2008 23:39:04 -0800 Comment by vooodooo84 If that is true, she will have been locked up for longer than I have been alive, now that is fucked up.

]]> vooodooo84 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/04/every_child_deserves_a_mother_and_a_fath_54#c1007679 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/04/every_child_deserves_a_mother_and_a_fath_54#c1007679 Hetero Sun, 27 Apr 2008 23:59:13 -0800 Comment by Ben HOLY SHIT.

]]> Ben http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/04/every_child_deserves_a_mother_and_a_fath_54#c1007681 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/04/every_child_deserves_a_mother_and_a_fath_54#c1007681 Hetero Mon, 28 Apr 2008 00:37:43 -0800 Comment by keshmeshi Psychologically extremely disturbed. Ya think?

]]> keshmeshi http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/04/every_child_deserves_a_mother_and_a_fath_54#c1007682 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/04/every_child_deserves_a_mother_and_a_fath_54#c1007682 Hetero Mon, 28 Apr 2008 00:40:29 -0800 Comment by Fnarf Of the six children - three boys and three girls aged between five and 20 - five-year-old Felix, Stefan, 18, and Kerstin lived with their mother in the cellar, where they never saw sunlight and received no education. Shudder.]]> Fnarf http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/04/every_child_deserves_a_mother_and_a_fath_54#c1007688 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/04/every_child_deserves_a_mother_and_a_fath_54#c1007688 Hetero Mon, 28 Apr 2008 05:27:21 -0800 Comment by Fifty-Two-Eighty Feed him to the pit bulls.

]]> Fifty-Two-Eighty http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/04/every_child_deserves_a_mother_and_a_fath_54#c1007690 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/04/every_child_deserves_a_mother_and_a_fath_54#c1007690 Hetero Mon, 28 Apr 2008 05:46:08 -0800 Comment by artpunkt I live here in Austria, and everyone is pretty shocked and asking themselves what kind of country they are living in... after all, only two years ago Natascha Kampusch escaped from a cellar near Vienna where her kidnapper had held her for almost her entire childhood. At that time it was considered an unprecedented case... and now Austria has outdone itself again... truly shocking for such a small country.

]]> artpunkt http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/04/every_child_deserves_a_mother_and_a_fath_54#c1007693 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/04/every_child_deserves_a_mother_and_a_fath_54#c1007693 Hetero Mon, 28 Apr 2008 06:54:12 -0800 Comment by unPC Never been to Austria but my stereotype is people are clean, polite, remote, distant and "don't get involved." Perhaps they should be a bit more nosy? Did no one ever visit this crzy man's house?

]]> unPC http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/04/every_child_deserves_a_mother_and_a_fath_54#c1007695 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/04/every_child_deserves_a_mother_and_a_fath_54#c1007695 Hetero Mon, 28 Apr 2008 07:07:06 -0800 Comment by Minty Machismo Crazy man had a wife, unPC. Who allegedly was unaware her missing daughter was in the basement.

]]> Minty Machismo http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/04/every_child_deserves_a_mother_and_a_fath_54#c1007697 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/04/every_child_deserves_a_mother_and_a_fath_54#c1007697 Hetero Mon, 28 Apr 2008 07:16:09 -0800 Comment by Mr. Poe Ugh.

]]> Mr. Poe http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/04/every_child_deserves_a_mother_and_a_fath_54#c1007699 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/04/every_child_deserves_a_mother_and_a_fath_54#c1007699 Hetero Mon, 28 Apr 2008 07:26:44 -0800 Comment by Jessica Familial love FTL. Is there a way we can donate to a therapy fund? Or just a "baseball bat and dark alley" fund?

]]> Jessica http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/04/every_child_deserves_a_mother_and_a_fath_54#c1007704 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/04/every_child_deserves_a_mother_and_a_fath_54#c1007704 Hetero Mon, 28 Apr 2008 07:40:49 -0800 Comment by violet_dagrinder Oooooohhh, holy fuck. I think I'm gonna puke.


I'd really like to hear what that wife thought was going on in the locked basement. WTF?

]]> violet_dagrinder http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/04/every_child_deserves_a_mother_and_a_fath_54#c1007705 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/04/every_child_deserves_a_mother_and_a_fath_54#c1007705 Hetero Mon, 28 Apr 2008 07:44:19 -0800 Comment by John In a movie, this would be labeled too far out.

This one story I wish I did not read, depravity has a new definition.

Hitler was Austrian.... Vienna is the best known city .... they once has an empire ... most of the Royals of Europe are related to the Austrian old royal families ...

Horror story of the year.

]]> John http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/04/every_child_deserves_a_mother_and_a_fath_54#c1007708 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/04/every_child_deserves_a_mother_and_a_fath_54#c1007708 Hetero Mon, 28 Apr 2008 07:58:49 -0800 Comment by violet_dagrinder @11:

Austria has universal health care.

Better to be a victim of unimaginable depravity there than here!

]]> violet_dagrinder http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/04/every_child_deserves_a_mother_and_a_fath_54#c1007714 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/04/every_child_deserves_a_mother_and_a_fath_54#c1007714 Hetero Mon, 28 Apr 2008 08:39:43 -0800 Comment by ray For real, how did the wife not notice her daughter giving birth to seven children and raising three in the fucking basement?

]]> ray http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/04/every_child_deserves_a_mother_and_a_fath_54#c1007718 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/04/every_child_deserves_a_mother_and_a_fath_54#c1007718 Hetero Mon, 28 Apr 2008 08:47:37 -0800 Comment by ahava From another article I read, I got the impression it was in a basement somewhere other than the house where he and his wife lived.

It's difficult to truly get my head around this horror.

]]> ahava http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/04/every_child_deserves_a_mother_and_a_fath_54#c1007727 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/04/every_child_deserves_a_mother_and_a_fath_54#c1007727 Hetero Mon, 28 Apr 2008 09:11:15 -0800 Comment by jayme have you seen the photo of this guy? truly frightening. like the other commenters have said, i just can't wrap my brain around this horrible crime.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7371043.stm

]]> jayme http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/04/every_child_deserves_a_mother_and_a_fath_54#c1007769 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/04/every_child_deserves_a_mother_and_a_fath_54#c1007769 Hetero Mon, 28 Apr 2008 10:02:48 -0800 Comment by Vince Oh yeah, here they only beat their children or starve them to death. Please, a little less self -righteousness.

]]> Vince http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/04/every_child_deserves_a_mother_and_a_fath_54#c1007772 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/04/every_child_deserves_a_mother_and_a_fath_54#c1007772 Hetero Mon, 28 Apr 2008 10:04:32 -0800 Comment by Dylan! @13, this is the premise of a movie, in a way. Go rent Bad Boy Bubby. Good stuff.

]]> Dylan! http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/04/every_child_deserves_a_mother_and_a_fath_54#c1007777 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/04/every_child_deserves_a_mother_and_a_fath_54#c1007777 Hetero Mon, 28 Apr 2008 10:07:37 -0800 Comment by LeslieC #16, no, it's in the same building, but it seems that the father, mother, and three of the grandchildren live on the second floor, and the imprisoned daughter and the other three children live in the cellar.

]]> LeslieC http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/04/every_child_deserves_a_mother_and_a_fath_54#c1007813 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/04/every_child_deserves_a_mother_and_a_fath_54#c1007813 Hetero Mon, 28 Apr 2008 10:42:02 -0800 Comment by owsley how and why could any human being be driven to do this, not to mention to his own child and grandchildren?

]]> owsley http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/04/every_child_deserves_a_mother_and_a_fath_54#c1007889 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/04/every_child_deserves_a_mother_and_a_fath_54#c1007889 Hetero Mon, 28 Apr 2008 11:33:17 -0800 Comment by Jennifer And now, from the country that brought you Hitler, the Von Trapp family, and Natascha Kampusch, we present: incest! Kidnapping! Child Abuse!

We'll be here all millenium, folks.

]]> Jennifer http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/04/every_child_deserves_a_mother_and_a_fath_54#c1008012 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/04/every_child_deserves_a_mother_and_a_fath_54#c1008012 Hetero Mon, 28 Apr 2008 13:11:12 -0800 Comment by keshmeshi @20,

In that case, I don't see how the mother didn't know. How did he explain the presence of the three grandkids?

]]> keshmeshi http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/04/every_child_deserves_a_mother_and_a_fath_54#c1008142 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/04/every_child_deserves_a_mother_and_a_fath_54#c1008142 Hetero Mon, 28 Apr 2008 14:30:41 -0800