Slog - Comments on Bad News for John McCain http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/04/bad_news_for_john_mccain White men aren't voting for Obama, blacks aren't voting for Clinton, blue-collar workers aren't voting for Obama, white-collar workers aren't voting for Clinton—and all this spells big trouble for whoever winds up getting the Democratic nomination, say the talking heads on the teevee. They say it over and over and over again. They scream it. But have you heard about all the Republicans that aren't voting for John McCain? Me neither—not until I read Frank Rich's column in Sunday's New York Times. When the Pennsylvania returns rained down Tuesday night, the narrative became clear fast. The Democrats’ exit polls spelled... Copyright 2008 Mon, 28 Apr 2008 09:10:25 -0800 Mon, 28 Apr 2008 15:00:46 -0800 http://www.movabletype.org/?v=3.34 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Comment by Mr. Poe But have you heard about all the Republicans that aren't voting for John McCain?

...where have you been?

]]> Mr. Poe http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/04/bad_news_for_john_mccain#c1007730 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/04/bad_news_for_john_mccain#c1007730 2008 Mon, 28 Apr 2008 09:22:35 -0800 Comment by Mahtli69 Voting for Huckabee or Paul in a meaningless primary is a far cry from actually switching parties in the general election.

Do you really think that Huckabee or Paul supporters would vote for Obama or Clinton over McCain? This story might be significant if, say, Ron Paul decides to run as a Libertarian.

]]> Mahtli69 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/04/bad_news_for_john_mccain#c1007731 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/04/bad_news_for_john_mccain#c1007731 2008 Mon, 28 Apr 2008 09:23:46 -0800 Comment by Hernandez Doing this in a primary is one thing. The general election, however, is a different animal. Come October, when these folks start to realize the distinct possiblity of a *gasp* Democrat in the Oval Office, watch how quickly they'll line up lock-step behind McCain.

]]> Hernandez http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/04/bad_news_for_john_mccain#c1007743 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/04/bad_news_for_john_mccain#c1007743 2008 Mon, 28 Apr 2008 09:34:04 -0800 Comment by JC John McCain is known for going against several Republican initiatives. And while this can be seen as standing up for his personal principles, the GOP doesn't exactly smile on members who don't play ball. The GOP works like a well-oiled machine when all its members are in agreement and following orders, but falls apart when this doesn't happen.

]]> JC http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/04/bad_news_for_john_mccain#c1007744 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/04/bad_news_for_john_mccain#c1007744 2008 Mon, 28 Apr 2008 09:34:35 -0800 Comment by Andrew The question I have to ask is that those people who claim to be Democrats are saying they will not vote for a black man. Has anyone really thought about this for a second? Are those "Democrats" really Democrats or Republicans who crossed over party lines? I know that the Democrats have a number of racists in the party but even taking that into account, that number is just suspiciously high.

]]> Andrew http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/04/bad_news_for_john_mccain#c1007745 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/04/bad_news_for_john_mccain#c1007745 2008 Mon, 28 Apr 2008 09:34:44 -0800 Comment by Vince First of all, a primary is a far cry from the general election. Secondly, the Democrats always were the party of rascism. That's why the south changed to the Republicans from the Democrats at the dawn of the civil rights movement when LBJ pushed civil rights legislation. Thirdly, anyone who thinks the R's won't savage Obama in the general election with the experience question, the Rev. Wright question, and probably gay rights, hasn't been paying attention to the recent past. There are too many easily frightened people.
I personally would love either Obama or Clinton. But given the record of the American voting(and non-voting) public, I have very little hope. And all those new voters, well let's just see if they bother to vote in the general.

]]> Vince http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/04/bad_news_for_john_mccain#c1007754 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/04/bad_news_for_john_mccain#c1007754 2008 Mon, 28 Apr 2008 09:48:58 -0800 Comment by I, Anonymous Maybe I would vote for a black man. Maybe not. But one thing I can tell you for sure is that I'm not going to be voting for THAT black man.

]]> I, Anonymous http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/04/bad_news_for_john_mccain#c1007771 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/04/bad_news_for_john_mccain#c1007771 2008 Mon, 28 Apr 2008 10:04:29 -0800 Comment by six shooter The Ds don't need the McCain haters to vote for the D candidate. They'll settle for the McCain haters not voting.

Whomever wins the Democratic primary will win the election.

]]> six shooter http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/04/bad_news_for_john_mccain#c1007775 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/04/bad_news_for_john_mccain#c1007775 2008 Mon, 28 Apr 2008 10:05:55 -0800 Comment by Just Remember One Penn. voter said that they would not vote for a black man even if their lives depended on it...ironically it now does.

]]> Just Remember http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/04/bad_news_for_john_mccain#c1007776 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/04/bad_news_for_john_mccain#c1007776 2008 Mon, 28 Apr 2008 10:07:04 -0800 Comment by C What I see in the comments is that everyone trusts the Republicans to get behind their candidate in November, but when presented with similar arguments, often don't trust Democrats to do the same.

While it is true that religious convictions and moral outrage push Rs to the polls as others waver, I think that this year, we have a few causes of our own-- new voters included. I expect Democrats to turn out in huge numbers.

Speculation on a scandal that will cost Obama the election is pointless. If we can't remind voters not to vote out of fear, we can't do it for any candidate. If we can, we can have a Democratic president.

I'm hoping we can.

]]> C http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/04/bad_news_for_john_mccain#c1007779 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/04/bad_news_for_john_mccain#c1007779 2008 Mon, 28 Apr 2008 10:08:41 -0800 Comment by Hernandez @10 - Actually, I do think that we (Dems) are capable of getting behind the eventual nominee despite all the recent Clinton/Obama infighting. We definitely have the benefit of strong causes and strong outrage.

But do I "trust" Dems to unite the same way I "trust" that the GOP will unite? Not so much. the Repubs have repeatedly proven that they can; the Dems haven't.

]]> Hernandez http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/04/bad_news_for_john_mccain#c1007801 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/04/bad_news_for_john_mccain#c1007801 2008 Mon, 28 Apr 2008 10:28:21 -0800 Comment by Charlton Heston Don't forget that the NRA is already beating the war drum against both Clinton and Obama. Also don't forget that that's been a huge, possibly deciding, factor in the last two elections.

]]> Charlton Heston http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/04/bad_news_for_john_mccain#c1007804 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/04/bad_news_for_john_mccain#c1007804 2008 Mon, 28 Apr 2008 10:34:10 -0800 Comment by Will in Seattle It's called a Blue Tidal Wave.

And it's going to get BIGGER.

Deal with it.

]]> Will in Seattle http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/04/bad_news_for_john_mccain#c1007844 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/04/bad_news_for_john_mccain#c1007844 2008 Mon, 28 Apr 2008 11:00:13 -0800 Comment by feom You mention "men" quite a bit in post, Savage, but what about the women?

What about the women . . .

]]> feom http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/04/bad_news_for_john_mccain#c1008175 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/04/bad_news_for_john_mccain#c1008175 2008 Mon, 28 Apr 2008 15:00:46 -0800