Slog - Comments on Another Sign of the Times http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/04/another_sign_of_the_times Angryjournalist.com. From the AFP: They're angry at their demanding editors. They're angry about the mushrooming workload in shrinking newsrooms. They're even angry about other angry journalists. But these angry journalists are happy they can now vent their frustrations to the rest of the world, courtesy of angryjournalist.com, a sort of online complaint board allowing ink-stained wretches to gripe anonymously. Ironically, their anger is partly fueled by the Internet, which has forced newspapers and television networks to reinvent themselves with painful consequences for their staffs. I did a quick search for the word "Seattle" in the angry entries (now numbering near... Copyright 2008 Wed, 02 Apr 2008 08:55:44 -0800 Wed, 02 Apr 2008 22:08:02 -0800 http://www.movabletype.org/?v=3.34 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Comment by Mr. Poe pussyjournalist.com

]]> Mr. Poe http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/04/another_sign_of_the_times#c987711 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/04/another_sign_of_the_times#c987711 Media Wed, 02 Apr 2008 08:59:32 -0800 Comment by elenchos Do journalists really want to find out how little the public cares about them? No good cam come of this.

]]> elenchos http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/04/another_sign_of_the_times#c987739 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/04/another_sign_of_the_times#c987739 Media Wed, 02 Apr 2008 09:33:35 -0800 Comment by Fnarf Journalists ARE like cattle, aren't they? The reason they don't get paid more is because there's a limitless supply of them. And what most journalists do can be done just as well by thousands of others.

On the other hand, when you allow the market to turn you towards the lowest common denominator, you get garbage. Newspapers are turning into garbage. Magazines aren't, though.

]]> Fnarf http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/04/another_sign_of_the_times#c987742 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/04/another_sign_of_the_times#c987742 Media Wed, 02 Apr 2008 09:34:29 -0800 Comment by superyeadon I was a newspaper reporter for eight years. To be truthful, I really wasn't all that good at it ... I had a hard time reconciling the amount of time and effort it took to do a fantastic job worth feeling proud of, when in return you were paid pennies on the dollar.

]]> superyeadon http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/04/another_sign_of_the_times#c987760 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/04/another_sign_of_the_times#c987760 Media Wed, 02 Apr 2008 09:55:33 -0800 Comment by BobH Journalists at large metro dailies are paid a decent salary. I think the angryjournalist types are at small-to-medium papers, which traditionally have demanded long hours at low pay, with the idea that people will move on to bigger papers and the paper can replace them with the next crop of j-school grads.

]]> BobH http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/04/another_sign_of_the_times#c987773 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/04/another_sign_of_the_times#c987773 Media Wed, 02 Apr 2008 10:12:37 -0800 Comment by Lars Nativson WE are so proud we don't have angry jopurnalists here in Seattle. We are the Nicest People inthe World. Why look at our local journalism today: local sports star has a dream of a stadium; Indian curry shouldn't be prepackaged; a columnist who is "mad" that someone called environmentalists a bad word.

Of course, this also means our journalists are nice to those in power, too. Wonderful! This keeps the powerful happy, the public happy, we are all so happy.

]]> Lars Nativson http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/04/another_sign_of_the_times#c987797 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/04/another_sign_of_the_times#c987797 Media Wed, 02 Apr 2008 10:28:34 -0800 Comment by And I won't here either! Oh Eli, you think I'm nuts? I work at the same paper you used to work at - I dare not even mention its name here. I've posted on angry several times as have my pals here at work, but nuh-uh, no way, no how am I going to use my real name. Maybe when I quit...

]]> And I won't here either! http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/04/another_sign_of_the_times#c987801 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/04/another_sign_of_the_times#c987801 Media Wed, 02 Apr 2008 10:30:34 -0800 Comment by Harry Callahan fnarf, you are consistently idiotic.

]]> Harry Callahan http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/04/another_sign_of_the_times#c987927 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/04/another_sign_of_the_times#c987927 Media Wed, 02 Apr 2008 11:42:26 -0800 Comment by PopTart I love how the Internet is the answer--why should there be newspapers now since we have the Internet. So of course media organziations no longer need journalists becuase there's the Internet. Umm, who is supposed to write the content for the Internet?

I'm sorry but I think there is still value in having local people write about local events. And, not to put too fine a point on it but journalists have blown the whistle on some of the major events in the last 30 years through their research and reporting. Perhaps there's some value in their work after all.

]]> PopTart http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/04/another_sign_of_the_times#c987946 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/04/another_sign_of_the_times#c987946 Media Wed, 02 Apr 2008 11:50:40 -0800 Comment by Dawgson Fnarf:

Magazines are hit hard by this too -- They're losing ad revenue and cutting staff as a result. Staff that wrote a small number of quality pieces a week are now expected to churn out blog posts daily. Fact checking and copy-editing aren't as much of a priority. Paper quality is being reduced too.

So, it's really not just newspapers, it's print media in general.

]]> Dawgson http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/04/another_sign_of_the_times#c988065 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/04/another_sign_of_the_times#c988065 Media Wed, 02 Apr 2008 12:50:01 -0800 Comment by Marky How does one do a search on the site? I can't wait to get the scoop from Dallas Morning News insiders.

Thnx.

]]> Marky http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/04/another_sign_of_the_times#c988305 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/04/another_sign_of_the_times#c988305 Media Wed, 02 Apr 2008 15:03:17 -0800 Comment by H0RATI0SANZSERIF omg lol lmao www -- I used to work at that paper 70 miles from Seattle, and I bet I can pinpoint the little whiner who posted that crap. I'm sorry to see his stuff immortalized here.

Sigh.

All these reporter dudes got big heads after the last season of The Wire.

]]> H0RATI0SANZSERIF http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/04/another_sign_of_the_times#c988429 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/04/another_sign_of_the_times#c988429 Media Wed, 02 Apr 2008 16:48:55 -0800 Comment by H0RATI0SANZSERIF @3: The word is "toward," not "towards." And you don't know what you're talking about.

]]> H0RATI0SANZSERIF http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/04/another_sign_of_the_times#c988432 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/04/another_sign_of_the_times#c988432 Media Wed, 02 Apr 2008 16:52:34 -0800 Comment by CP Unhappy journalists? Naaaw...

]]> CP http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/04/another_sign_of_the_times#c988598 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/04/another_sign_of_the_times#c988598 Media Wed, 02 Apr 2008 20:47:41 -0800 Comment by superyeadon @ 13 ... listening to assholes correct grammar in a snotty way ... that makes me angry.

]]> superyeadon http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/04/another_sign_of_the_times#c988631 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/04/another_sign_of_the_times#c988631 Media Wed, 02 Apr 2008 22:08:02 -0800