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<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/you_want_bowling</link>
<description>Roll up your sleeves and grab a checkbook. Via the Ballard News-Tribune. A citizen-led effort to save another longtime community gathering place got a boost last week when the new owners of the Sunset Bowl property agreed to consider incorporating a bowling alley into its development plans, which would demolish the 30-year-old local landmark. &quot;We are definitely open to considering a bowling operation in our development,&quot; said [AvalonBay Communities’ Brian] Fritz. Avalon will also evaluate whether the bowling alley could remain open for business until they are ready to break ground, which is scheduled for summer 2009. But Fritz said...</description>
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<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 10:42:43 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Little Red Ryan Hood</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>This is the best news I will hear all week.</p>]]></description>
<author>Little Red Ryan Hood</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/you_want_bowling#c972700</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/you_want_bowling#c972700</guid>
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<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 10:52:05 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Hernandez</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>I for one would jump at the chance to live in an apartment above a 24-hour bowling alley.  I'm sure I'm not alone in feeling that way.</p>]]></description>
<author>Hernandez</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/you_want_bowling#c972704</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/you_want_bowling#c972704</guid>
<category>City</category>
<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 10:54:16 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by J.R.</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Bowling and condos: A match made in Ballard.</p>]]></description>
<author>J.R.</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/you_want_bowling#c972725</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/you_want_bowling#c972725</guid>
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<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 11:12:14 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Gomez</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>I have a sinking feeling it's not as obvious to others as it is to me, but I'll pose the rhetorical question anyway:</p>

<p>Know why no one's ever tried to build living spaces directly above a bowling alley?</p>]]></description>
<author>Gomez</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/you_want_bowling#c972730</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/you_want_bowling#c972730</guid>
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<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 11:14:01 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by infrequent</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>@4.  it might not look like your average bowling alley, but i'm sure it can be done.</p>

<p>and the idea is totally awesome.</p>]]></description>
<author>infrequent</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/you_want_bowling#c972746</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/you_want_bowling#c972746</guid>
<category>City</category>
<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 11:23:32 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by wbrproductions</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Agreed, awesome++. wouldn't want to live there, but sure would go.</p>]]></description>
<author>wbrproductions</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/you_want_bowling#c972809</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/you_want_bowling#c972809</guid>
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<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 12:26:38 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Gomez</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>The look is not the problem, Geoffrey.  It's the reverb and the noise.  Bowling produces a lot of noise.  Multiply the sound of a 16 pound sphere of marble striking a wooden floor, rolling down a wooden lane and striking several wooden pins times a couple dozen or however many lanes are in the alley, plus the typical ambient noises of a social environment, even if a single dead floor can somehow buffer all that noise from residents, the structural vibrations of all the bowling alone will create a nuisance for residents.</p>

<p>You just never notice any of this outside a bowling alley because most bowling alleys are solitary structures surrounded by open air, or in nightlife environments where there's so much other noise it's not discernible.</p>

<p>Living spaces aren't built above bowling alleys for a reason.</p>]]></description>
<author>Gomez</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/you_want_bowling#c972819</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/you_want_bowling#c972819</guid>
<category>City</category>
<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 12:34:17 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by SeanD</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>They would have to make some special effort to help dampen the noise of the bowling activities, but it seems entirely feasible (though unlikely) to me.</p>

<p>Consider Lucky Strikes in Bellevue's Lincoln Square. They share a building with an almost adjacent movie theater and apartments. It would seem like that configuration would be in conflict. So, is it? </p>]]></description>
<author>SeanD</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/you_want_bowling#c972832</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/you_want_bowling#c972832</guid>
<category>City</category>
<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 12:43:46 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Little Red Ryan Hood</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>@7 bowling balls aren't made of marble, most bowling alleys use a synthetic floor, and standing outside smoking at sunset I can hear none of the bowling alley noise.  </p>

<p>The idea of living above a bowling alley I think is more dangerous than me living above my favorite bar.  </p>]]></description>
<author>Little Red Ryan Hood</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/you_want_bowling#c972838</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/you_want_bowling#c972838</guid>
<category>City</category>
<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 12:52:50 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by infrequent</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>@7.  true, i was mostly thinking of the structural concerns, not the noise.  i was thinking of the alley underground with the garage between the alley and the units....  and as 8 points out, bowling alleys next to other businesses has been done.  </p>

<p>the problem, i think, would be the cost.  and it still might look rather strange.  ambient noise?  yeah, a unit about a 24 hour lane would probably not be a selling point.</p>

<p>i think it's highly unlikely that it would happen.  but i applaud the developers for at least giving the idea consideration.  and if they did pull it off...  well...  that would be pretty sweet.</p>]]></description>
<author>infrequent</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/you_want_bowling#c972844</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/you_want_bowling#c972844</guid>
<category>City</category>
<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 12:56:23 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by infrequent</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>oh, but i hope nobody's thinking of lucky strikes type of alley.  i was hoping for a sunset type.  but maybe the lucky strikes is the only new type of alley that would work in a new condo...</p>]]></description>
<author>infrequent</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/you_want_bowling#c972862</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/you_want_bowling#c972862</guid>
<category>City</category>
<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 13:05:45 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Gomez</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Movie sound is far easier to buffer, mainly because it doesn't involve stone impacting floor and wood and the resulting impact reverbing through the walls.  Dolby Surround Sound is easier to filter with curtains.</p>

<p>Also, admittedly not having been to the Lucky Strikes complex, how many lanes do they have?  And how is the building configured?  Are the apartments right over the alley, as they would be in this proposed idea?  Is the alley in the basement?  Is it well entrenched?  It's easy to say, "Oh, this one example works," without detailing the actual configuration.  And at this point, I'll have to pay it a visit in the near future just to make sure anyone who responds isn't blowing smoke up my ass.</p>

<p>Also, keep in mind it's easy to say something is feasible when you're not the one who actually has to a) make it work or b) convince a contractor to do what it takes to make it work.  Most developers would rather pull the wool over, make you think it'll work, and run off with the money by the time everyone realizes it doesn't and they're left holding the bag.</p>]]></description>
<author>Gomez</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/you_want_bowling#c972888</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/you_want_bowling#c972888</guid>
<category>City</category>
<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 13:23:41 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Mr_Friendly</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>I stayed at a hotel in Moscow that had a bowling alley on the main floor, and I don't remember it being disruptive to the rest of the hotel's functions.</p>]]></description>
<author>Mr_Friendly</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/you_want_bowling#c972898</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/you_want_bowling#c972898</guid>
<category>City</category>
<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 13:33:12 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by googler</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>#12:  Google it, condo buildings with ground floor bowling alleys already exist.</p>]]></description>
<author>googler</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/you_want_bowling#c972936</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/you_want_bowling#c972936</guid>
<category>City</category>
<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 14:00:57 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Gomez</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Give me some B&M addresses, sock puppets, or can it.</p>]]></description>
<author>Gomez</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/you_want_bowling#c973007</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/you_want_bowling#c973007</guid>
<category>City</category>
<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 14:47:20 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Orv</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>@12: Bowling balls are plastic, not stone.<br />
</p>]]></description>
<author>Orv</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/you_want_bowling#c973141</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/you_want_bowling#c973141</guid>
<category>City</category>
<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 16:25:16 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by dude</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>"I live above a bowling alley . .  . and below another bowling alley!"</p>]]></description>
<author>dude</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/you_want_bowling#c973159</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/you_want_bowling#c973159</guid>
<category>City</category>
<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 16:47:01 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Gomez</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>No matter the material, Orv, it doesn't change the volume or the fact it's a rock-hard 12-16 pound mass.</p>]]></description>
<author>Gomez</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/you_want_bowling#c973721</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/you_want_bowling#c973721</guid>
<category>City</category>
<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2008 11:33:33 -0800</pubDate>
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