Slog - Comments on Winning the War on Drugs http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/winning_the_war_on_drugs_2 This ought to spell the end for drugs in the college town of Stellenbosch, South Africa. Stellenbosch students, their parents and club owners are outraged at what they have described as brutal drug raids on nightspots in the student town on Friday night, and some are considering taking legal action against the police. Police found only a small plastic bank bag and two joints of dagga [marijuana] and three grams of hashish, at the clubs. Several witnesses have come forward, describing how the police, wearing Kevlar vests and carrying firearms, burst into Bohemia, Die Mystic Boer and Springbok Pub around... Copyright 2008 Mon, 10 Mar 2008 10:19:57 -0800 Mon, 10 Mar 2008 12:04:08 -0800 http://www.movabletype.org/?v=3.34 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Comment by Matthew Without reason, we are lost.

]]> Matthew http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/winning_the_war_on_drugs_2#c961766 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/winning_the_war_on_drugs_2#c961766 Drugs Mon, 10 Mar 2008 10:25:18 -0800 Comment by Dan Savage Holy shit. Drugs make people insane -- cops, mostly, and they don't even have to take them to go nuts.

]]> Dan Savage http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/winning_the_war_on_drugs_2#c961779 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/winning_the_war_on_drugs_2#c961779 Drugs Mon, 10 Mar 2008 10:32:01 -0800 Comment by Mr. Poe Screws fall out all the time, the world is an imperfect place.

]]> Mr. Poe http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/winning_the_war_on_drugs_2#c961782 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/winning_the_war_on_drugs_2#c961782 Drugs Mon, 10 Mar 2008 10:35:11 -0800 Comment by hmm I missed at first that this was in South Africa. I know they could sue like crazy in the US, but what are South Africa's laws about this sort of thing?

]]> hmm http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/winning_the_war_on_drugs_2#c961802 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/winning_the_war_on_drugs_2#c961802 Drugs Mon, 10 Mar 2008 10:48:11 -0800 Comment by max solomon "dagga" sounds like a lot more fun to abuse than "pot".

]]> max solomon http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/winning_the_war_on_drugs_2#c961805 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/winning_the_war_on_drugs_2#c961805 Drugs Mon, 10 Mar 2008 10:48:55 -0800 Comment by Daniel Respect mah authoritah!

Testosterone poisoning is an ugly thing.

]]> Daniel http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/winning_the_war_on_drugs_2#c961816 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/winning_the_war_on_drugs_2#c961816 Drugs Mon, 10 Mar 2008 10:53:01 -0800 Comment by Fifty-Two-Eighty Oh, those cops are always the life of the party.

]]> Fifty-Two-Eighty http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/winning_the_war_on_drugs_2#c961817 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/winning_the_war_on_drugs_2#c961817 Drugs Mon, 10 Mar 2008 10:53:06 -0800 Comment by NapoleonXIV It's funny how people from other countries base their assumptions on how the law works via what they see from American crime shows.

What a rude awakening to realize that you don't have a right to remain silent, or that a search warrant may not be necessary to bind you up and bash your head in with a rifle butt.

]]> NapoleonXIV http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/winning_the_war_on_drugs_2#c961818 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/winning_the_war_on_drugs_2#c961818 Drugs Mon, 10 Mar 2008 10:53:20 -0800 Comment by Judah "Die Mystic Boer"?

That's the part of the story that got my attention. A bar called "Die Mystic Boer."

That's the name of my new band.

]]> Judah http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/winning_the_war_on_drugs_2#c961832 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/winning_the_war_on_drugs_2#c961832 Drugs Mon, 10 Mar 2008 11:01:32 -0800 Comment by John Search warrants are not necessary for police to enter commercial property open to the public.

Although damn you'd think there was something illegal about what goes on in that video.

]]> John http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/winning_the_war_on_drugs_2#c961837 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/winning_the_war_on_drugs_2#c961837 Drugs Mon, 10 Mar 2008 11:05:18 -0800 Comment by NapoleonXIV John:

[In the United States] Search warrants are generally required before shoving your hand down a woman's panties to look for drugs.

]]> NapoleonXIV http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/winning_the_war_on_drugs_2#c961867 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/winning_the_war_on_drugs_2#c961867 Drugs Mon, 10 Mar 2008 11:24:36 -0800 Comment by Mr Fuzzy I thought this was in the US at first too.
If it's not in the US, then why are we getting so worked up about it?

Yes, folks, third world countries don't treat their citizens right. We know this.

]]> Mr Fuzzy http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/winning_the_war_on_drugs_2#c961868 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/winning_the_war_on_drugs_2#c961868 Drugs Mon, 10 Mar 2008 11:26:22 -0800 Comment by Dominic Holden @ 12) This may have taken place in South Africa, but it's a result of U.S. policy. The SWAT tactics are out of the American drug-enforcement playbook, and the ferocity that other nations enforce drug laws is largely at the behest of the U.S., which pressures countries to tow the line. Oh, and violent drug raids also happen routinely in the United States.

]]> Dominic Holden http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/winning_the_war_on_drugs_2#c961939 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/winning_the_war_on_drugs_2#c961939 Drugs Mon, 10 Mar 2008 11:53:06 -0800 Comment by Westside forever War on drugs =

price support program for the dealers

job security program for law enforcement

royal fuck-over for all the taxpayers who pay for it

Oh, and another thing--no provable impact on either the supply or the price of drugs on the street.

]]> Westside forever http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/winning_the_war_on_drugs_2#c961956 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/winning_the_war_on_drugs_2#c961956 Drugs Mon, 10 Mar 2008 12:04:08 -0800