Sigh. Too short.
That second-to-last picture: nice swastika design.
The link to the trophy bldg post is broken.
I like it a lot, but... *another* upscale condo/hotel project? Are developers not learning anything?
I'm reminded of that quote, "insanity is doing the same thing over and over expecting a different result."
it looks interesting, at least. though it is nothing spectacular, it is better than average.
@2 considering the asian swastikas are older than the nazi ones, that might actually be appropriate. it is shaped close to the hindu form, but definitely not angled like the nazi one.
I thought the darth vader building was 4th and Blanchard?
Hmmm, like the first pic. The second? Not so much.
I dig it. I also appreciate that Pb is paying attention to having full sidewalk retail.
And yeah, that link is broken.
If it isn't in the ID or in Pioneer Square, shouldn't it be taller?
Being that it is dark here 7+ months out of the year, wouldn't something that isn't black or charcoal be a better choice?
Yeah, we have enough black here already.
Geesh, if it is ID, why not Red or something more cheery?
@ 3, 4) Thanks, the link should be fixed now.
@ 7) We have several ominous black buildings that could qualify, I guess.
@6, but how many average people know about the Hindu uses of the swastika? This won't be Vader's Mini Me building; it'll be nicknamed the Hitler building.
OMG! Secret nazi forest!
The fourth and Blachard Building most certainly wins the official title of the DVB. However, the Columbia Center, designed by the same architect, I believe, gets the same moniker from some.
It is the same architect, he liked black glazed buildings.
@18 - and hates Seattle citizenry.
Kudos again for a very interesting review of some potential construction in the city. I really appreciate this reporting by the SLOG.
I somewhat like the design.
It's too fat and squat for a modern city centre, especially for an area in which it would be surrounded by parking lots, not charming heritage buildings, and it's just too dark for a gloomy city, as people have noted.
However, the design is admirably striking and modern, which is exactly what the staid Seattle architecture scene needs.
I'd definitely like to see more buildings in this style in Seattle, but taller and skinnier, and of lighter shade.
@21. i agree. i, too, would like this building if it were different.
Okay--after some reflection, I really like the design a lot, but the rest holds.
How many architects these days are using Google SketchUp for their concept designs? All of them, or just most?
This building is ugly.
I think the building will be a nice addition compared to what is there now. Also I think these images are subject to change, however, I also like the design...it is new and clean. I don't think it should be compared to anything built by Martin Selig. Also I think the views from the western face of the building will be amazing.....
I think it looks great. Definantly in the direction Seattle needs to be moving. A really modern hotel like the Standard or Mondrian is what we need.
I think that the hotel / condo combo...if done right, can be very successful. I think where it fails is when developers design crappy buildings with national hotel chains as partners...then I think it becomes more about the needs of the hotel operator than the desires of the potential condo owner. Doing something on a smaller scale and bringing a really cool design to a good location like this I think could be attractive to a lot of people. Plus we need a really cool swamky hotel in Seattle...the "W", Hotel Max and Andra just fall way short in my opinion. Keep it up PB...I like your ideas. Seattle needs more of you pushing forward away from all the old guys out there building outdated crap.
@29: that shoud be "swanky" not "swamky"...sorry sloggers...
I wish the building was taller too...however this area of seattle really needs something to happen. Right now it is a crazy mix of business people trying to aviod crack heads who have stumbled out of Pioneer Square. I think the development will bring the block back to life...but good luck trying to run that club, that place sucks.
Now it's been pointed out as pretty damn obvious, I doubt the giant swastika is going to make the final cut.
Is this a Martin Selig building?
5: Well-off people are NOT ALLOWED to live in central Seattle. These people just didn't get the memo.
33: try some positive juice, this development and future ones are a step in the direction that the CD needs - this project could act as the beginning of progressive growth in the area, finally, damn.
I like the building as it is, and sorry -- I'm not seeing the "swastika" element of the design. Evidently some people can't keep their minds off of references to Mr. Hitler.
I actually think it would look superb and distinguished in black and gray. The Columbia Tower's black exterior has stood up well over time. I'd hate to see the design review board force them to choose more garish colors in a misguided effort to match decaying Chinatown.
I fear, however, that as much as I love the idea of all of these buildings being constructed, economic conditions may force this boom to come to an end.
I live in the ID and love this building. I am sick and tired of people assuming we (asians) are just simple people who like koi fish and dragons. Have you ever seen the architecture in Shanghai, it's far more modern than anything in Seattle! Also I never thought this area was the ID though? Isn't it just part of downtown?
Thank you @ 36. I think the ID needs a breath of fresh design, too. I also hadn't thought of this as part of the ID. But according to this nifty map of the historic district, the zone reaches all the way up to Yesler.
It would make the Sounder stairway at least.
Who will speak up in favor of ground level parking lots and not creating more urban canyons?
I know that I'm just pissing in the wind...and I'm not going to attempt to argue that the retail on this block is in any way valuable...
But, please, Seattle...this isn't Monopoly (tm)--you don't need to drop a hotel on every block.
good to hear a few voices in favor. i think the building looks great and a rooftop bar is most needed. more excellent documentation of our potentially waning boom, mr. holden.
I live on 5th and Washington and that building will destroy my view. Crap. Any idea on when it could take root?
Hear hear @36 and @37. Anyone disparaging this design (which of course will change) is not looking at the urban blight that is currently resident on that block.
They're also not looking at the construction nearby in south downtown just above and below Yesler. This will be an appropriate connection between them, and an interesting entryway from the north into the ID.
I work down there, and my biggest concern is timing. Amazon employees currently make up (I think) the majority of the space in Paul Allen's Union Station towers nearby. They'll be moving up to SLU in a few years, right around when this will be in development or just opened. Will this be a drain on that community? Will Vulcan be able to get tenants for its towers? What about the condos going up behind the King Street Station?
Seems like a lot all at once; is there a clear method to this madness? Will the ID suffer before it benefits?
surprised only 1 nimby has commented on this building. anyone who would prefer surface parking to a tower that benefits hundreds of people is clearly from a suburb. you can park somewhere else. or as crazy as it sounds you can take transit. i live downtown i have a car but i only drive if where i'm going is more then 5 miles away and if it is more then 5 miles away will still take bus if it's easy. no i'm not rich i make $40,000 a year. surface parking is about the worst thing for downtown.
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