Slog - Comments on The Crazy Talk Express http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/the_crazy_talk_express This TPM video is pretty goddamn damning. John McCain enthusiastically accepted the endorsement of televangelist John Hagee, an evangelical Christian "leader" who apparently never got the memo about how "people of faith" are all on the same side now. Evangelical Christians, conservative Jews, the right sort of Muslims--they're all supposed to be united against our wicked secular culture, to say nothing of those hurricane-enticing homos, lesbian feminists, abortionists, yoga instructors, etc. But Hagee still talks about Catholics the way--well, the way Protestants talked about Catholics for hundreds of years. Here's the video... When will John McCain reject and denounce John... Copyright 2008 Wed, 05 Mar 2008 17:05:50 -0800 Mon, 10 Mar 2008 11:16:03 -0800 http://www.movabletype.org/?v=3.34 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Comment by Lee The Catholic Church = the Whore of Babylon

makes sense

]]> Lee http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/the_crazy_talk_express#c958416 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/the_crazy_talk_express#c958416 2008 Wed, 05 Mar 2008 17:11:39 -0800 Comment by Justin J All that time spent on making that huge chart for something totally superstitious and non-existent.

]]> Justin J http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/the_crazy_talk_express#c958417 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/the_crazy_talk_express#c958417 2008 Wed, 05 Mar 2008 17:12:02 -0800 Comment by jen c that holy flow chart/time line is amazing...

]]> jen c http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/the_crazy_talk_express#c958430 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/the_crazy_talk_express#c958430 2008 Wed, 05 Mar 2008 17:18:47 -0800 Comment by Will in Seattle News flash: Pennsylvania doesn't have that many Catholics.

In case you wondered ...

]]> Will in Seattle http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/the_crazy_talk_express#c958436 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/the_crazy_talk_express#c958436 2008 Wed, 05 Mar 2008 17:25:21 -0800 Comment by Fifty-Two-Eighty How the hell sgould I know whether gluttony's a sin? You're the resident Catholic here, Dan, why don't you give us a list of them so we know what horrible sinners we are when we commit them. Hey, maybe we could even have a contest. . . .

]]> Fifty-Two-Eighty http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/the_crazy_talk_express#c958437 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/the_crazy_talk_express#c958437 2008 Wed, 05 Mar 2008 17:25:29 -0800 Comment by elenchos Easy to remember:

Gilligan - Sloth
Ginger - Lust
Marianne - Envy
Mr. Howell - Greed
Mrs. Howell - Anger
The Professor - Pride
Skipper - Gluttony

]]> elenchos http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/the_crazy_talk_express#c958444 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/the_crazy_talk_express#c958444 2008 Wed, 05 Mar 2008 17:31:32 -0800 Comment by I hope not Is this the next phase of the campaign for the Dems?

http://www.hattiesburgamerican.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080305/NEWS01/80305018

]]> I hope not http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/the_crazy_talk_express#c958446 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/the_crazy_talk_express#c958446 2008 Wed, 05 Mar 2008 17:32:30 -0800 Comment by left coast It's pretty well documented that the Catholic church helped the Nazis and even celebrated Hitler's birthday. I think everyone on Maher last week agreed with that.

Catholic League is just one guy, but I still love to see this fighting. I'll bet $5 that Bill C gets a boner when he sees that whore picture - looks like Paula Jones' face on Jennifer Flowers' body.

]]> left coast http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/the_crazy_talk_express#c958454 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/the_crazy_talk_express#c958454 2008 Wed, 05 Mar 2008 17:38:12 -0800 Comment by Fnarf Catholics make up a third of Pennsylvanians. It's one of the most Catholic states in the union (Rhode Island is the most).

]]> Fnarf http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/the_crazy_talk_express#c958463 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/the_crazy_talk_express#c958463 2008 Wed, 05 Mar 2008 17:44:49 -0800 Comment by Will in Seattle Yeah, but they don't vote for Clinton much.

]]> Will in Seattle http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/the_crazy_talk_express#c958464 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/the_crazy_talk_express#c958464 2008 Wed, 05 Mar 2008 17:48:48 -0800 Comment by annie Yeah, Will, what the hell are you talking about? There were at least 3,802,524 Catholics in Pennsylvania as of 2000.

]]> annie http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/the_crazy_talk_express#c958465 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/the_crazy_talk_express#c958465 2008 Wed, 05 Mar 2008 17:50:15 -0800 Comment by Kent Cudgel Glands again, right?

]]> Kent Cudgel http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/the_crazy_talk_express#c958467 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/the_crazy_talk_express#c958467 2008 Wed, 05 Mar 2008 17:52:01 -0800 Comment by MK It's absolute bullshit that people can still fault Obama after he "rejected and denounced" Farrakhan, but no one has called on McCain to completely and utterly disown this motherfucker.

It's not just the Catholic thing either (though that's bad enough, since McCain's going to need a substantial portion of the Catholic vote in order to win the White House). A look at the video tells you all the other crazy shit he believes, including 'Katrina was a punishment for tolerating gays', 'God will send terrorists to attack the US if we allow a 2-state solution in the Israeli-Palestinian dilemma', etc.

]]> MK http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/the_crazy_talk_express#c958472 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/the_crazy_talk_express#c958472 2008 Wed, 05 Mar 2008 17:54:17 -0800 Comment by annie @10: Well, they might if John McCain pisses them off, which was the whole point of this post. But are you so fickle to have forgotten Obama's still the likely nominee?

]]> annie http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/the_crazy_talk_express#c958474 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/the_crazy_talk_express#c958474 2008 Wed, 05 Mar 2008 17:55:05 -0800 Comment by Tony McCain is the real media darling. They will periodically show him taking shots at both Obama & Clinton now.

]]> Tony http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/the_crazy_talk_express#c958477 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/the_crazy_talk_express#c958477 2008 Wed, 05 Mar 2008 17:57:08 -0800 Comment by Ty Gluttony is a sin for Catholics.

Maybe that's why Hagee is so eager to discredit their ideology.

]]> Ty http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/the_crazy_talk_express#c958501 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/the_crazy_talk_express#c958501 2008 Wed, 05 Mar 2008 18:21:47 -0800 Comment by Fnarf Catholics in Pennsy voted for Bill Clinton -- 44% in '92, 53% in '96. Gore won 53% in 2000. PA Catholics are overwhelmingly blue-collar, labor, Democratic.

Another Will in Seattle fact bomb.

]]> Fnarf http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/the_crazy_talk_express#c958509 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/the_crazy_talk_express#c958509 2008 Wed, 05 Mar 2008 18:29:38 -0800 Comment by Fnarf Exactly three states have more Catholics than PA: CA, NY, and FL.

]]> Fnarf http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/the_crazy_talk_express#c958512 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/the_crazy_talk_express#c958512 2008 Wed, 05 Mar 2008 18:33:10 -0800 Comment by SheWho @18 - If you looked at percentages, Louisiana might be in there, too. The population centers are in the southern part of the state, and the southern part of the state is overwhelmingly Catholic. But unlike CA, NY, FL, and PA, Catholics in LA vote Republican. Don't know what the response will be to Hagee's endorsement here.

]]> SheWho http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/the_crazy_talk_express#c958533 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/the_crazy_talk_express#c958533 2008 Wed, 05 Mar 2008 19:02:26 -0800 Comment by PJ If only Chris Farley were alive for this for SNL.

And I absolutely LOVE the Gilligan ref.

]]> PJ http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/the_crazy_talk_express#c958534 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/the_crazy_talk_express#c958534 2008 Wed, 05 Mar 2008 19:02:56 -0800 Comment by Sargon Bighorn I've always wanted to be the Whore of Babylon, and I find out now it's some other whore?! Gheeezuz I guess I'll have to be the Whore of Seattle.

]]> Sargon Bighorn http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/the_crazy_talk_express#c958555 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/the_crazy_talk_express#c958555 2008 Wed, 05 Mar 2008 19:37:05 -0800 Comment by ratcityreprobate When will John McCain reject and denounce John Hagee? Probably about the same time Dino Rossi rejects Hutcherson and Fuiten. Think about that Dan, the next time you post something stupid like, "I’m finding it hard to get exercised about the possibility of Dems losing control of the governor’s mansion in Oly."

]]> ratcityreprobate http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/the_crazy_talk_express#c958567 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/the_crazy_talk_express#c958567 2008 Wed, 05 Mar 2008 19:59:31 -0800 Comment by Ries Niemi He really seems to enjoy poking that pore lil Whore of Babylon right in the tit with his pool cue, doesnt he?

]]> Ries Niemi http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/the_crazy_talk_express#c958570 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/the_crazy_talk_express#c958570 2008 Wed, 05 Mar 2008 20:01:50 -0800 Comment by collie So Hagee hates the Catholics and the Muslims. Does that qualify him to write for Slog?

]]> collie http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/the_crazy_talk_express#c958573 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/the_crazy_talk_express#c958573 2008 Wed, 05 Mar 2008 20:03:33 -0800 Comment by johnnie I remember watching crazy preachers with pointers and maps of the bible on TV as a child. I never knew they were major political players until just now.

]]> johnnie http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/the_crazy_talk_express#c958574 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/the_crazy_talk_express#c958574 2008 Wed, 05 Mar 2008 20:05:06 -0800 Comment by catalina vel-duray I think progressives are missing the point, and in that, a wonderful opportunity to drive a sharp shiv in the "Christian Right" (which only in the last decade or so has started to halfheartedly embrace Catholicism) and in the GOP voting bloc, which has been pulling Catholics away from the Dems for years.

For the sake of society, this should be exploited.

]]> catalina vel-duray http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/the_crazy_talk_express#c958593 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/the_crazy_talk_express#c958593 2008 Wed, 05 Mar 2008 20:23:49 -0800 Comment by tco What a creepy, hate-mongering fat bastard!

]]> tco http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/the_crazy_talk_express#c958609 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/the_crazy_talk_express#c958609 2008 Wed, 05 Mar 2008 21:01:17 -0800 Comment by gnossos SheWho @ 19...actually as a percent of th overall population, Louisiana ranks above PA.

Louisiana is about 30% Catholic, while Penn is about 27%. But still, as Fnarf and annie note, there are over 3 million of them and they are very working class and mostly old school dems.


see:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_Catholicism_in_the_United_States

]]> gnossos http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/the_crazy_talk_express#c958633 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/the_crazy_talk_express#c958633 2008 Wed, 05 Mar 2008 21:42:13 -0800 Comment by sarah just an FYI -- conservative Jews are actually very liberal politically/socially/etc. Orthodox Jews are the politically right-wing ones...

]]> sarah http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/the_crazy_talk_express#c958667 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/the_crazy_talk_express#c958667 2008 Wed, 05 Mar 2008 22:25:50 -0800 Comment by Lynn Ward
This guy has been on TV for years and years

Catholic bashing by all the protestants

What is new

Catholics are much stranger than Mormons or far out non catholics

Eating the flesh of Christ - give me a break

Children born sinners - oh, sure

]]> Lynn Ward http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/the_crazy_talk_express#c958725 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/the_crazy_talk_express#c958725 2008 Thu, 06 Mar 2008 01:18:10 -0800 Comment by Vince I suppose it won't be long until Catholics and Protestants are killing each other here too. That, and killing jews and gays is their favorite pass time. Religion is for morons. McCain is endorsed by morons. Welcome President Moron. Moron Nation.

]]> Vince http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/the_crazy_talk_express#c958739 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/the_crazy_talk_express#c958739 2008 Thu, 06 Mar 2008 07:09:40 -0800 Comment by SheWho @28 - That was basically the point I was trying to make. Hagee's endorsement won't have much of an effect in PA or most of the other states with high percentages of Catholics, because Catholics in those states traditionally vote Democratic, despite their baby killing, gay loving ways. I lived in PA back when I was Catholic - I can speak to that pretty well.

In Louisiana, however, where Catholics vote Republican (because not only do they want to not kill babies and not only do they hate gays, but they also want to kick all those lazy, good-for-nothings off the welfare roles), it may have an impact. Catholics here generally distrust evangelicals (Protestants in general, really) as a rule, and vice-versa.

Of course, nobody in politics cares about Louisiana anyway, as we've seen time and time again over the last several years, so I suppose it doesn't matter anyway.

]]> SheWho http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/the_crazy_talk_express#c958790 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/the_crazy_talk_express#c958790 2008 Thu, 06 Mar 2008 09:12:10 -0800 Comment by Zach I'm pretty sure that big chart is a Paul Laffoley piece.

]]> Zach http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/the_crazy_talk_express#c958797 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/the_crazy_talk_express#c958797 2008 Thu, 06 Mar 2008 09:28:48 -0800 Comment by Carollani he has fat lady hips

]]> Carollani http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/the_crazy_talk_express#c958799 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/the_crazy_talk_express#c958799 2008 Thu, 06 Mar 2008 09:33:39 -0800 Comment by Anonymous Tard This guy is my new favorite man of the cloth. Please, please, please! give him a spot on the slog!! I'll publicly rim any 3 stranger editors and/or staffers of your choice if you do that.

That whore of babylon was hot, but the possibility of interfaith conflict gives me a monstrous boner and I'm typing with one hand.

]]> Anonymous Tard http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/the_crazy_talk_express#c961855 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/the_crazy_talk_express#c961855 2008 Mon, 10 Mar 2008 11:16:03 -0800