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Wednesday, March 5, 2008

The Crazy Talk Express

posted by on March 5 at 17:05 PM

This TPM video is pretty goddamn damning. John McCain enthusiastically accepted the endorsement of televangelist John Hagee, an evangelical Christian “leader” who apparently never got the memo about how “people of faith” are all on the same side now. Evangelical Christians, conservative Jews, the right sort of Muslims—they’re all supposed to be united against our wicked secular culture, to say nothing of those hurricane-enticing homos, lesbian feminists, abortionists, yoga instructors, etc.

But Hagee still talks about Catholics the way—well, the way Protestants talked about Catholics for hundreds of years. Here’s the video…

When will John McCain reject and denounce John Hagee?

And isn’t gluttony a sin?

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1

The Catholic Church = the Whore of Babylon

makes sense

Posted by Lee | March 5, 2008 5:11 PM
2

All that time spent on making that huge chart for something totally superstitious and non-existent.

Posted by Justin J | March 5, 2008 5:12 PM
3

that holy flow chart/time line is amazing...

Posted by jen c | March 5, 2008 5:18 PM
4

News flash: Pennsylvania doesn't have that many Catholics.

In case you wondered ...

Posted by Will in Seattle | March 5, 2008 5:25 PM
5

How the hell sgould I know whether gluttony's a sin? You're the resident Catholic here, Dan, why don't you give us a list of them so we know what horrible sinners we are when we commit them. Hey, maybe we could even have a contest. . . .

Posted by Fifty-Two-Eighty | March 5, 2008 5:25 PM
6

Easy to remember:

Gilligan - Sloth
Ginger - Lust
Marianne - Envy
Mr. Howell - Greed
Mrs. Howell - Anger
The Professor - Pride
Skipper - Gluttony

Posted by elenchos | March 5, 2008 5:31 PM
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Posted by I hope not | March 5, 2008 5:32 PM
8

It's pretty well documented that the Catholic church helped the Nazis and even celebrated Hitler's birthday. I think everyone on Maher last week agreed with that.

Catholic League is just one guy, but I still love to see this fighting. I'll bet $5 that Bill C gets a boner when he sees that whore picture - looks like Paula Jones' face on Jennifer Flowers' body.

Posted by left coast | March 5, 2008 5:38 PM
9

Catholics make up a third of Pennsylvanians. It's one of the most Catholic states in the union (Rhode Island is the most).

Posted by Fnarf | March 5, 2008 5:44 PM
10

Yeah, but they don't vote for Clinton much.

Posted by Will in Seattle | March 5, 2008 5:48 PM
11

Yeah, Will, what the hell are you talking about? There were at least 3,802,524 Catholics in Pennsylvania as of 2000.

Posted by annie | March 5, 2008 5:50 PM
12

Glands again, right?

Posted by Kent Cudgel | March 5, 2008 5:52 PM
13

It's absolute bullshit that people can still fault Obama after he "rejected and denounced" Farrakhan, but no one has called on McCain to completely and utterly disown this motherfucker.

It's not just the Catholic thing either (though that's bad enough, since McCain's going to need a substantial portion of the Catholic vote in order to win the White House). A look at the video tells you all the other crazy shit he believes, including 'Katrina was a punishment for tolerating gays', 'God will send terrorists to attack the US if we allow a 2-state solution in the Israeli-Palestinian dilemma', etc.

Posted by MK | March 5, 2008 5:54 PM
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@10: Well, they might if John McCain pisses them off, which was the whole point of this post. But are you so fickle to have forgotten Obama's still the likely nominee?

Posted by annie | March 5, 2008 5:55 PM
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McCain is the real media darling. They will periodically show him taking shots at both Obama & Clinton now.

Posted by Tony | March 5, 2008 5:57 PM
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Gluttony is a sin for Catholics.

Maybe that's why Hagee is so eager to discredit their ideology.

Posted by Ty | March 5, 2008 6:21 PM
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Catholics in Pennsy voted for Bill Clinton -- 44% in '92, 53% in '96. Gore won 53% in 2000. PA Catholics are overwhelmingly blue-collar, labor, Democratic.

Another Will in Seattle fact bomb.

Posted by Fnarf | March 5, 2008 6:29 PM
18

Exactly three states have more Catholics than PA: CA, NY, and FL.

Posted by Fnarf | March 5, 2008 6:33 PM
19

@18 - If you looked at percentages, Louisiana might be in there, too. The population centers are in the southern part of the state, and the southern part of the state is overwhelmingly Catholic. But unlike CA, NY, FL, and PA, Catholics in LA vote Republican. Don't know what the response will be to Hagee's endorsement here.

Posted by SheWho | March 5, 2008 7:02 PM
20

If only Chris Farley were alive for this for SNL.

And I absolutely LOVE the Gilligan ref.

Posted by PJ | March 5, 2008 7:02 PM
21

I've always wanted to be the Whore of Babylon, and I find out now it's some other whore?! Gheeezuz I guess I'll have to be the Whore of Seattle.

Posted by Sargon Bighorn | March 5, 2008 7:37 PM
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When will John McCain reject and denounce John Hagee? Probably about the same time Dino Rossi rejects Hutcherson and Fuiten. Think about that Dan, the next time you post something stupid like, "I’m finding it hard to get exercised about the possibility of Dems losing control of the governor’s mansion in Oly."

Posted by ratcityreprobate | March 5, 2008 7:59 PM
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He really seems to enjoy poking that pore lil Whore of Babylon right in the tit with his pool cue, doesnt he?

Posted by Ries Niemi | March 5, 2008 8:01 PM
24

So Hagee hates the Catholics and the Muslims. Does that qualify him to write for Slog?

Posted by collie | March 5, 2008 8:03 PM
25

I remember watching crazy preachers with pointers and maps of the bible on TV as a child. I never knew they were major political players until just now.

Posted by johnnie | March 5, 2008 8:05 PM
26

I think progressives are missing the point, and in that, a wonderful opportunity to drive a sharp shiv in the "Christian Right" (which only in the last decade or so has started to halfheartedly embrace Catholicism) and in the GOP voting bloc, which has been pulling Catholics away from the Dems for years.

For the sake of society, this should be exploited.

Posted by catalina vel-duray | March 5, 2008 8:23 PM
27

What a creepy, hate-mongering fat bastard!

Posted by tco | March 5, 2008 9:01 PM
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SheWho @ 19...actually as a percent of th overall population, Louisiana ranks above PA.

Louisiana is about 30% Catholic, while Penn is about 27%. But still, as Fnarf and annie note, there are over 3 million of them and they are very working class and mostly old school dems.


see:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_Catholicism_in_the_United_States

Posted by gnossos | March 5, 2008 9:42 PM
29

just an FYI -- conservative Jews are actually very liberal politically/socially/etc. Orthodox Jews are the politically right-wing ones...

Posted by sarah | March 5, 2008 10:25 PM
30


This guy has been on TV for years and years

Catholic bashing by all the protestants

What is new

Catholics are much stranger than Mormons or far out non catholics

Eating the flesh of Christ - give me a break

Children born sinners - oh, sure

Posted by Lynn Ward | March 6, 2008 1:18 AM
31

I suppose it won't be long until Catholics and Protestants are killing each other here too. That, and killing jews and gays is their favorite pass time. Religion is for morons. McCain is endorsed by morons. Welcome President Moron. Moron Nation.

Posted by Vince | March 6, 2008 7:09 AM
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@28 - That was basically the point I was trying to make. Hagee's endorsement won't have much of an effect in PA or most of the other states with high percentages of Catholics, because Catholics in those states traditionally vote Democratic, despite their baby killing, gay loving ways. I lived in PA back when I was Catholic - I can speak to that pretty well.

In Louisiana, however, where Catholics vote Republican (because not only do they want to not kill babies and not only do they hate gays, but they also want to kick all those lazy, good-for-nothings off the welfare roles), it may have an impact. Catholics here generally distrust evangelicals (Protestants in general, really) as a rule, and vice-versa.

Of course, nobody in politics cares about Louisiana anyway, as we've seen time and time again over the last several years, so I suppose it doesn't matter anyway.

Posted by SheWho | March 6, 2008 9:12 AM
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I'm pretty sure that big chart is a Paul Laffoley piece.

Posted by Zach | March 6, 2008 9:28 AM
34

he has fat lady hips

Posted by Carollani | March 6, 2008 9:33 AM
35

This guy is my new favorite man of the cloth. Please, please, please! give him a spot on the slog!! I'll publicly rim any 3 stranger editors and/or staffers of your choice if you do that.

That whore of babylon was hot, but the possibility of interfaith conflict gives me a monstrous boner and I'm typing with one hand.

Posted by Anonymous Tard | March 10, 2008 11:16 AM

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