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Tuesday, March 25, 2008

The Audacity of Hopelessness

posted by on March 25 at 9:45 AM

David Brooks on Hillary Clinton:

When you step back and think about it, she is amazing. She possesses the audacity of hopelessness.

Why does she go on like this? Does Clinton privately believe that Obama is so incompetent that only she can deliver the policies they both support? Is she simply selfish, and willing to put her party through agony for the sake of her slender chance?

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1

I hate when I agree with David Brooks.

Posted by Levislade | March 25, 2008 9:49 AM
2

I have been meaning to give Hillary another look.

Posted by Slim | March 25, 2008 9:51 AM
3

You're just trying to goad ECB into posting.

Posted by tsm | March 25, 2008 9:57 AM
4

That's the funniest thing David Brooks has ever written.

Which, of course, isn't saying very much at all....

Posted by Providence | March 25, 2008 9:57 AM
5

Even Brooks gets it right from time to time.

Posted by heywhatsit | March 25, 2008 10:00 AM
6

Right. Her and her 12 million voters are all bad, selfish people. Ugh!

Jeez, they only got about 48.5% of the votes so far. And they're looking like contenders in only PA. and IN and KY and PR.

How can they IMAGINE going to the convention to make their case to superdelegates there ??
It's like they think the whole system was DESIGEND AND INTENDED to let the superdelegates decide everything if no one gets 2025 before the convention.

Chutzpah!!

Anyway, those people just don't seem to get the visionary transcendent Obama unity and not-demonizing-others message.

So....fuck 'em. And piss on 'em, too.

Posted by unPC | March 25, 2008 10:01 AM
7

Funny, UnPC, but that's not what I see. In fact, there's nothing in there about her supporters. Maybe you're just sensitive to loss.

But put all that aside, because it's not about you. It's never been about you or anyone else who supports her. It's about her. And that's Brooks's point.

Posted by Ziggity | March 25, 2008 10:05 AM
8

Yo dudes and dudettes, this is all Deja Poo.

The Dem Trainwreck, all unfolding before your weary eyes, right on schedule. Nauseating.


Thus we are inflicted with:

President
John
McCain

Posted by Karlheinz Arschbomber | March 25, 2008 10:08 AM
9

He tears her a new bung in this piece. I hope it doesn't end as badly as it seems it will.

Posted by Jersey | March 25, 2008 10:11 AM
10

I'd call it the audacity of quoting a right wing shill like David Brooks.

Posted by chicagogaydude | March 25, 2008 10:13 AM
11

THERE WAS NO SNIPER FIRE!

Posted by Bellevue Ave | March 25, 2008 10:13 AM
12

Hell hath no fury like an Obamaton scorned. It's not like he has enough pledged delegates to win this thing either. What a crock!

Jesus, Eli. If you're just going to post a link to someone else's writing, without providing any thoughts, analysis, or actual (I don't know) writing of your own, try not to make it so incendiary. It's like you're hiding behind Brooks's apron.

Posted by fluteprof | March 25, 2008 10:14 AM
13

a broken clock is right twice a day. fuck david brooks.

Posted by max solomon | March 25, 2008 10:15 AM
14

This scares me. David Brooks is wrong on everything. Obama is doomed.

Posted by DOUG. | March 25, 2008 10:17 AM
15

Doomsayers thrive in the Democratic Party. Even if the nomination fight goes all the way to the convention, Obama and his campaign will have a solid two months to communicate his vision and plans for America, which far outshine those of John McCain. Senator Clinton will, at that point, strongly endorse Senator Obama and encourage her supporters to do so, as well. (She can claim she "misspoke" about Obama not being ready to be President.) By doing so, she will showcase her statesmanship (stateswomanship?) and signify her new leadership role in a Democratic majority on Capitol Hill.

Posted by Bub | March 25, 2008 10:22 AM
16

Brooks knows Hillary has to drop out before anybody will pay attention to McCain, growing cold and stale out there somewhere. And that nobody is going to get a hard on to donate to McCain without a clear Democratic bogeyman to hate. Obama's big speech made him look all the more presidential, and he's going to get more opportunities like that from Hillary than from McCain.

Hang in there Hillary!

Posted by elenchos | March 25, 2008 10:23 AM
17

i'm no hillabot but, dude. what galling nerve. the odacity of david brook's bombastic pomposity.

Posted by bree | March 25, 2008 10:23 AM
18

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Posted by The Nasty One Speaks | March 25, 2008 10:25 AM
19

I was okay with Clinton until she gave the speech mocking Obama and hope. Bitch, all we've GOT is hope!

Posted by Suz | March 25, 2008 10:34 AM
20

I'm confused by all the double-fake stuff. Two weeks ago, the honorable Karl Rove himself stated that the longer this Obama/Clinton battle continued, the longer the Democrats would enjoy being on the front stage, and they'd benefit from this exposure.

Was he wrong? Intentionally being facetious? Both?

Posted by Karlheinz Arschbomber | March 25, 2008 10:36 AM
21

People talk about her like she's crazy or something. Need you be reminded that she's a politician? She's in it to win it; she wants to be president, and this is what people do when they want to be president. You want hopeless, it's seeing people like Alan Keyes, Ralph Nader and Dennis Kucinich running for president.

Posted by Andy | March 25, 2008 10:51 AM
22

@11 - THE CAKE IS A LIE!

Posted by Morgan | March 25, 2008 11:21 AM
23

Obama has 156 more pledged delegates than Clinton does.

Leaving out the uncommitted delegates and the few that still belong to Edwards, there are still 566 non-super delegates up for grabs.

Therefore, to be a valid candidate, she has to win more than 361 of the remaining pledged delegates.

It isn't impossible.

She COULD win 64% of the remaining non-supers.


Mr. Brooks is wrong in thinking that she only has a 5% chance of winning the nomination, but he IS right about the way the Democratic Primary campaign is going to hurt us.

If a fifth of the Clinton OR the Obama supporters jump ship
WE ARE SCREWED.

I was an Edwards supporter, but I still plan on voting in my own best interest.

Posted by Eddy | March 25, 2008 11:50 AM
24

You don't show that you are of potential presidential quality by being easily discouraged. If Clinton were to drop out before the convention pundits every where would be saying things like: "She couldn't take the pressure.", "Never had what it takes all along." or "Women just can't follow through." I loathe Mike Huckabee's politics and religious stance but I rather admire him for his tenacity.

Posted by inkweary | March 25, 2008 12:13 PM
25

I, very sadly, agree with @1.

Posted by Will in Seattle | March 25, 2008 12:16 PM
26

The idea that Clinton - who has the support of about 50% of those who have voted so far - should sacrifice herself for the good of the party so Prince Obama can have a clear path to his run for the throne is beyond absurd. What about her supporters - thrown under the bus too? Supposedly fair minded, thoughtful pundits like Brooks are the scariest of all! This is Clinton bashing, and not even slightly concealed. Brooks was so sure he was right that Clinton had lost everything before New Hampshire and immediately before Texas, Ohio and he missed the boat - oops! Maybe he's missing the boat again? This is a political contest, not preordained, and the will of the people and the party will prevail, without the manipulation of folks like Brooks, a Republican who is just hoping for a McCain victory anyway...

Posted by Mary Lou | March 25, 2008 12:24 PM
27

The idea that Clinton - who has the support of about 50% of those who have voted so far - should sacrifice herself for the good of the party so Prince Obama can have a clear path to his run for the throne is beyond absurd. What about her supporters - thrown under the bus too? Supposedly fair minded, thoughtful pundits like Brooks are the scariest of all! This is Clinton bashing, and not even slightly concealed. Brooks was so sure he was right that Clinton had lost everything before New Hampshire and immediately before Texas, Ohio and he missed the boat - oops! Maybe he's missing the boat again? This is a political contest, not preordained, and the will of the people and the party will prevail, without the manipulation of folks like Brooks, a Republican who is just hoping for a McCain victory anyway...

Posted by Mary Lou | March 25, 2008 12:24 PM
28

The idea that Clinton - who has the support of about 50% of those who have voted so far - should sacrifice herself for the good of the party so Prince Obama can have a clear path to his run for the throne is beyond absurd. What about her supporters - thrown under the bus too? Supposedly fair minded, thoughtful pundits like Brooks are the scariest of all! This is Clinton bashing, and not even slightly concealed. Brooks was so sure he was right that Clinton had lost everything before New Hampshire and immediately before Texas, Ohio and he missed the boat - oops! Maybe he's missing the boat again? This is a political contest, not preordained, and the will of the people and the party will prevail, without the manipulation of folks like Brooks, a Republican who is just hoping for a McCain victory anyway...

Posted by Mary Lou | March 25, 2008 12:24 PM
29

Pointing out that unless he is hit by a meteor, Obama's lead in pledged delegates and the popular vote is nearly insurmountable is not "Clinton-bashing."

Throwing out epithets like "Prince Obama" is bashing. Unconvincing, desperate bashing.

Posted by NapoleonXIV | March 25, 2008 12:32 PM
30

You need to subtract from Hillary's figures those GOP voters who are crossing over to draw out this Dem bloodbath, per Rush Limbaugh's mandate. Once McCain had the nomination locked up, the right wingers have been voting in droves for Hillary.

Check it out: http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/politics/2004303769_clinpublicans25.html

Posted by seattle mike | March 25, 2008 12:37 PM
31

Cheer up, Clinton fans. Once Obama is the assumed nominee, he'll commence with licking all your asses for a while, as he'll need your support in November too.

Posted by tsm | March 25, 2008 12:53 PM
32

@26 I disagree completely fuck Hillary!
@27 Yes and No
@28 You are so right! That Obama is Prince and I hate Prince!

Posted by poster Girl | March 25, 2008 2:25 PM
33

Eli, you are shameless. Once again, your shrill agitprop is like the sweetest, sweetest wine. Things must be bad indeed at Camp Obama.

Posted by Big Sven | March 25, 2008 4:42 PM
34

Ok, how can you imply that Hillary is waisting time? With all due respect, you have have a very narrow-minded point of view on this issue. I think Hillary threatens you and therefore, like the rest of the cowards out there, the best you got is your mouth running off spewing crap! What's new... Typical. I think this is the best election ever! There are so many persons involved that before wouldn't of cared much. I think if you were to look back at your blog and read it *objectively*, you may be ashamed of yourself. Hillary MAY not win it but who are you to say whether she is waisting her time or not? If she were to drop back now, your style of persons would say stupid things like,"See we new she didn't have it in her to be our leader." So many persons of your demeanor give women crap for pursuing their dreams - especially when it doesn't agree with you. (I hope you don't have a daughter or a wife, I'd feel sorry for them; especially your daughter having you her dad place a glass ceiling over her head, as though she just will never be good enough.) What errogance! Sir, you are certainly showing your sexism. Say, isn't that a form of prejudism? I believe it is. Then you have the audasity to try and look good to the public by not showing racism! Man, get real - you are predjudice and to think that the public would fall for your false acceptance into another culture. Start accepting women and then present your opinion. Here's another point, it's not your money, nor your efforts. And besides, had Hillary not be where she is, you wouldn't have had an opportunity to prove my points.

Posted by Get Serious! | March 25, 2008 6:21 PM

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