Hometown: Douglas, Arizona, U.S.

Age: 25 years old

Died: March 10, 2008 in Operation Iraqi Freedom.

Unit: Army, 1st Battalion, 64th Armor Regiment, 2nd Brigade Combat Team, 3rd Infantry Division, Fort Stewart, Ga.

Incident: Killed when a suicide bomber detonated an explosive device in Baghdad.

Y'all is crazy.

"management" as it is typically defined really should be the store manager.

well, i don't think they are managers, and they certainly aren't paid as managers. it's hard to get excited about something that helps one group of low-wage earners and potentially harms another. starbucks will either lower the barista's wages, raise the price of coffee, or reduce shift leaders (so they tip jar can still be shared while no longer requiring the slightly higher wages). only one of those options actually helps all the low-wage earners.

If it (and actual day-to-day) leaned towards management duties, this decision is a good one, and Sbux needs to rethink how it classifies employees in their outlets and may have to reorganize their retail structure.

But that makes too much sense and would be good for employees. Chances are they'll just eliminate tip jars.

Hometown: his mom's basement

Age: 37 years old

Died: any hope for his future died years ago when he discovered the internet

Unit: Dan Savage Was For The War Before He Was Against It Slog Troll Batallion 420

Incident: Another stupid ass spam post that no one gives a shit about

Mentor: 9/11 Conspiracy Theorists

Here you go Dan Savage's dittoheads! Have some fun with this. Frost in Wisconsin--riff on that!

Staff Sgt. Christopher S. Frost

Hometown: Waukesha, Wisconsin, U.S.

Age: 24 years old

Died: March 3, 2008 in Operation Iraqi Freedom.

Unit: Air Force, 377th Air Base Wing, Kirtland Air Force Base, N.M.

Incident: Died in a crash of an Iraqi Army Mi-17 helicopter in Bayji.

I used to live in Denver. You were in my freshman class. we onitored the bathroom together. I recall you wanted to one day be an uncritical easily lead and entertained dittohead. Congratulations on achieving your goal. Myself, I would have chosen someone other than a war monger for a leader, but hey-it's your life.

then again, my regular barists works at an independent shop, so i'm not "subsidizing" a "corporation".

but even if i did regularly go to an sbux, the tips go straight to the people working there. so in that case, who they work for is immaterial.

i can tell you, my gf always says that even if you tip a few dollars more than you should, you will probably make that person's day. they might have gone all day with shitty tips, and a few extra bucks will make finishing their shift a little easier.

FLSA doesn't fly in the People's Republic of California; you are only exempt if you spend most of your time with exempt duties. So even "store managers" at most mall retail stores are non-exempt and get their OT if they spend time on the sales floor. I'd imagine Starbucks is the same way.

I still work the register, handle movie returns, etc. We share what few tips we get (usually regular customers who know us personally or those amazingly rare customers that tell us to keep the change) because we all did the same amount of work, but I could get in more trouble for neglecting paperwork or ignoring the bank deposit than if they decide not to stock the soda case.

If the Starbucks case is similar (and it looks like it is, based on other comments) then this ruling is complete b.s.; you could probably ask the other employees and they would agree. Minus whatever resentful and greedy employee went combing through California tip law in the first place.