Happens to me all the time on the 49.

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For 200K, 10 guys can jack off in my hair. You can call me Bukake Clint.

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My God, straight people are gross.

If she had turned and punched the guy right in the dick, I'm pretty sure the flight crew, TSA and other law enforcement would've totally understood.

Fucked up shit like this happens because we let it happen.

Seriously? She turned away and cried? I'd be standing up, screaming to everyone what this guy was doing, and kicking him in the balls!

Heck of a way to get into the mile high club.

This is exactly like the car scene in Little Children, only, you know, way worse.

Let me say once again--masturbation does NOT allow entry into the MIle High Club, unless it's mutual masturbation.

Pathetically jacking off alone, whether in the restroom or in some woman's hair, does not count. One person does not make a "club".

this is an entire japanese genre of porn. public masturbation onto "unsuspecting" victims

What did the other passengers do/say about the surreptitious wanker? Did they scream at him? Tackle him and strap him down? Punch him in the balls? What did he say when caught?

Private Hancy Hamilton

Hometown: New York, NY

Age: 32 years old

Died: Sept.17, 1862, Sharpsburg, Maryland.

Unit: Pvt, Co B, 16 Reg’t Connecticut Inf.

Incident: At dawn, the hills of Sharpsburg, Maryland, thundered with artillery and musket fire as the Northern and Southern armies struggled for possession of the Miller farm cornfield during the Civil War. For three hours, the battle lines swept back and forth across the land. More lives would be lost on September 17, 1862, than on any other day in the nation's history.

i'm not sure you can hold an airline responsible for that sort of behavior unless they saw it. i sincerely hope the act of a mile-high-rub on a unwilling party is illegal, and that the thug was arrested for his crime. i also hope that she can sue him.

it would have been great if she did defend herself, punch him, or yell at him. i don't think that's behavior she should be required to do... this guy was a jerk and a criminal. but i do hope this brand of subtle sexism where women are taught to be embarrassed when sexually assaulted goes away sooner as opposed to later.

90% of the sex I've had in my entire life has been at a mile high or more (Denver, you know). Somehow, though, I don't think that qualifies me for the club.

if I were here, I would've kicked his ass for doing that shit to me. i can see how it's traumatic but at least she should've had the courage to confront him on it. i'm sure he would've tried to sue the airlines and a judge would've fined his ass instead.

I just don't get why any individual, when assualted, doesn't scream bloody murder and fight back? They teach this at every rape prevention class. Statisitcs clearly show that even when the assailant has a weapon victims who fight back have a much greater liklihood of escape. I am not in any way blaming this woman for being the victim of this assault, it is a horrible thing to experience, but she sure needs to learn that turning away and quietly crying is not her best option. I also feel sorry for her because the airline lawyers are going to put her in the wringer over this very question and she will be victimized all over again.

Just to clarify, she had been sleeping and the semen was already in her hair by the time she woke up. Nothing she could have done would have prevented it. And, you know, she was the victim of an assault and was probably too shell shocked to do anything about it. What's with the bystanders who 1. did nothing to stop the motherfucker in the first place and 2. didn't pulverize his nutsack once it was clear what he did.

As for the airlines culpability, I guess that's for a jury to decide.

Reminds me of what happened recently near Portland when some guy dumped a load on a woman's leg in a grocery store! Eww! Keep your load to yourself unless told otherwise!!!

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,337530,00.html

When was the last time I was at a rape prevention class? Do they offer these at the Y? The local church?

That said, I would not turn away from a man masturbating next to me on a plane. I'd either get up and tell an attendant, or say, "FUCKING STOP THAT!"

Fucked up shit like this happens because we let it happen.

Gomez, I kind of hate your posts. Just sayin'.

Splooge happens.

Okay, leek. Why?

Keep in mind I come from a place where it's not considered socially acceptable to be passive-aggressive or passive-passive... so maybe that's why you hate me, but please go ahead and elaborate.

@21

Gomez makes up for his self hate by being vicious to everyone and every situation he can.

He believes it is strength, and that he better than others because he is not "passive-passive"...when truly it is a thinly veiled security blanket to keep him warm from the vastness that is his own freezing loneliness.

Plus he's a gay fat ass asian. Talk about bottom of the barrel.

Talk about misplaced rage!

What do you mean, you "don't want to know what the verification process entailed"? Come on, Dan. Semen's gotta be one of the more distinctive substances out there. "Hmmm...well, it's either semen, or a carefully concocted mix of salt water, egg whites, and corn starch." Yes, I know how to make fake semen. Why? Not saying.

Uh, @24, I'm not Gomez's biggest fan either, but WTF? Displaced rage is an accurate diagnosis here, but not for him.

I would have liked to have seen someone shout "that's the last load you're ever going to blow, pervert" before castrating him with a broken wine bottle, myself.

24. Haha, what.

These random textual attacks towards me show up on Slog every so often, and I'm never sure a) who they're coming from or b) why.

Without tangible answers to these questions, they mean nothing and there's not much to say, because why bother?

I mean, come on, there has to be more logical, rational reasons to hate me. Tell me those!

But, ultimately, when the lawsuit has been settled, and the semen long washed out of the hair,this is still fucking hilarious.

Only 200k? She should get at 2 mil for going through that.

I do not understand the woman's mindset. She saw the guy wanking in the seat next to her, staring at her, and just ... turned away? Why in the holy hell didn't she yell WHAT IN THE FLYING FUCK ARE YOU DOING, YOU TWISTED FUCK? Even if it was too late to prevent the previous defilement, at least she would have gotten someone to turn and look and catch him with Mr. Teensy in his hand.

@20 How would anyone but you know when you had been to a rape prevention class. It is a pretty stupid thing to be sarcastic about, since they are not rare and are, in fact, readily available. Yes, even at YWCA's, try googling "rape prevention" for a start, or check out AWARE at aware.org. Many women choose empower themselves rather than be fearful, join them or remain snarky, your choice.

OK, am I just missing something here, or has no one asked the most obvious question of all : if it was in her HAIR, how did NO ONE SEE IT WHEN IT WAS HAPPENING AND SAY SOMETHING THEN?

Also, once again, Dan, your obvious secondary career choice should be T-shirt phrase designer : "Seat changing air wanker". It don't get much more finely honed than that.

Maybe the plane wasn't very full? At least, not very full of people! Ha!

Gomez: You know how you read a bunch of people's comments and eventually a few people really stick in your mind as repeatedly saying things you disagree with, possibly because they're often accusatory or confrontational or just plain irritating? Yeah, that.

P.S.: I said I hated your posts. I don't even know you.

But WHY do you hate them? WHY do you disagree with them? To attack the confrontational tone is ridiculous given the typical snide, confrontational tone and attitude of many of the regulars here, so why single me out above everyone else?

Boys, boys - surely this isn't anything a few good mutual dollops of "special" hair gel can't fix? Why don't you two get a room and make all nice (and sticky)?

@23,

Maybe it's because when you say "we", you really mean women.

I don't get it. Was he jacking off a second time when she noticed him? If there was semen in her hair already, then the deed was done (unless he was on round two, but unlikely), and you would think that once she awoke with the semeny hair, she would catch him only in the act of flipping through SkyMall.

P.P.S.: I'm a girl.

And my other answer: many of the snide, confrontational posters here are funny (senor poe, for instance). Others are widely known as ignorable trolls (ecce homo). You are neither; thus you've been singled out for "dang, every time I read something from this dude my day seems worse." Cheerio!

You say that like I only post to be a troll. I'm being honest! People hate honesty because it yanks the filter through which they see reality. And many people dance so much around it that ultimately they're not being honest at all.

At this point, I'm ready to try a social experiment. No, I won't tell you what it is, but I have a feeling this impression you and others have of me has very little to do with what I say or how I say it.

gomez - you confuse an honest opinion with the honest truth. yes, your brutal honesty is difficult to swallow the times you are right. but when it is a matter of opinion, it comes across as especially annoying to those that disagree.

most people who play the, "hey, i'm just being honest" game are being slightly disingenuous. it's not the blunt honesty that bothers people. you certainly aren't a troll, and you often have good or at least interesting insight. (and you've been nice to me, at least!) but your posts occasionally feel like they were written by in the same style of a troll.

bellevue ave, too.

ps. experiment? i hope i forget about that. now i'll be paranoid each time you post that responding will make me a guinea pig...

Dead horse, but: what else could I possibly be basing my opinion on other than what you say and how you say it? I have no clue who you are in real life, nor have I seen any more of your web presence than your comments here.

And if I hated honesty, why would I be saying all this?

Dead horse, but: what else could I possibly be basing my opinion on other than what you say and how you say it? I have no clue who you are in real life, nor have I seen any more of your web presence than your comments here.

And if I hated honesty, why would I be saying all this?

@31: I just found it bizarre that you imply that every woman should know how to fight back because they took a class. I also found it that it should be women's responsibility to go out and seek these classes.

If they can be so crucial to discouraging rape (and they seem like they would be for many women, like the one here), why the hell aren't they offered in high schools alongside sex education? Maybe they should be, instead of leaving it to ladies to realize one day, "Hey, I could be raped ANY DAY NOW! Maybe I should take a class."

Most importantly though, a woman should know to fight back because it's the RIGHT AND LOGICAL THING to do. The point here isn't really that this women didn't know how to fight back (although she didn't) but it seems that she didn't even feel like she *could.*

It's a symptom of a sick social environment when a woman needs to be TAUGHT that she should be stirring a huge fucking shitstorm when someone is assaulting her -- not turn away and cry to herself. She wasn't stuck in a remote field or abandoned alleyway, but a well-populated plane of a major airline.

God I hate women.

44-45. I bet I know you in person.

42. People love to use the troll label when someone makes a good point that completely clashes with their worldview. They get pissed off, but realizing that they have no rational reason for it, it's easier just to attack that person.

Debating someone's trolldom is an unproductive discussion, unless the person in question is being clearly, and constantly, disruptive to discussions... and only if the discussion involves taking action against such a disruptive person.

gomez -- sometimes. i think we'd all agree on at least two of the three biggest trolls. being a troll isn't just disagreeing. it's posting in a way to get a response, to upset people, to push their buttons. that's often easiest done by arrogantly posting something that most disagree with, and including some bad logic or personal attacks.

now, i don't think you are in any way a troll. but you have posted "the truth" of your opinion in a brutal manner based on arguable reasoning, way which resulting in pushing people's buttons. you then defended your position by saying, "hey, i'm just being honest." you are not a troll, and yes, perhaps calling you one was an act to dismiss your opinion without dealing with it. but it is difficult to deal with something you disagree with so fundamentally.

your post in this thread was:

Fucked up shit like this happens because we let it happen.

while there is a certain truth to that, it misses some HUGE points which most people find significant:

1) the act: this happened because someone acted criminally. this person found a sleeping passenger to attack and make a victim. there is likely nothing that could have prevented this initial behavior.

2) the response: you seem to imply the solution is so easy. we let it happen. the true part, once again, is that sure, we do let it happen. but what does that mean? as voiced many times, woman are not trained to defend themselves (nor should they have to) from sexual assaults. they are culturally trained to be embarrassed, or hurt, or to doubt what just happened. your response minimized the helplessness this victim experienced after realizing she was attacked.

what makes it difficult is the way you wrap it sounding like you sympathize. sure, you could argue that you think the act is fucked up, as you say. but your response makes it sound like it wouldn't have happened if she (or "we" the culture) didn't let it happen. whereas most people think: "that's fucked up" end. no blame on the victim necessary in this case.

so your honest opinion is stated in a way that seems very hostile to the sensibilities of those who frequent this site. in the worst case, you are blaming the victim, minimizing what occurred, and alienating others who have been victimized. in the best case, you agree with what many people have honestly said (including my second paragraph @14), but all the others have found a way to say it that does not have the "trollish" qualities of your post.

and i, too, don't know what else to consider besides what you say and how you say it.

Personally, Gomez, I feel like you're dismissing MY opinion by insisting that I must know you in person, otherwise I would never have these objections.

I repeat, I have no idea who you are in real life and if I know you, I'm certainly not aware of it.

I minimized nothing. What happened was really fucked up... so fucked up that I was just as horrified that the woman in question didn't do anything in response.

Keep in mind that how someone elects to intrepret my response indicts as many aspects of their character as they do of mine.

Gloria, you seem to be blaming me because we live in a violent society and women get victimized. Guess what? It is not my fault, and men get victimized too. Everyone should know how to protect themselves. Why are you so worked up about me? I am advocating education that is much needed. Other women recognize this, have you ever heard of "Take Back the Night"? That is all about women seeing that there is a need to empower and educate women about violence and how to deal with it. Are you against that? There was this thing called the Womens' Movement, ever hear of it? I just don't get why you are so outraged at me. I did not assault this or any other woman. By commenting on how victimized women are treated by defense attorneys in court I was not implying that I supported such treatment, you inferred that. I was stating a fact and facts need to be faced to be dealt with. You really ought to channel your rage into something positive instead of ranting at me, I did not create this society any more than you did and change doesn't occur by itself. If you are really concerned you should get involved instead of just shouting about it.

51. Therein lies the problem, leek: What would motivate you to even post about it in the first place? Why does it matter so much that you had to bring up your personal feelings about me in a vacuum, rather than discuss the actual topic here?

(And yes, 'me' rather than 'my posts', because to directly implicate my commentary as an indictment of my character indicates an issue with me personally).

@52 i think that's the point, gomez. most people here think the act was fucked up, but that the reaction was not fucked up.

the reaction was unfortunate and understandable. we can envision a better response, but that does not mean her reaction was fucked up. not only that, but you still said this sort of assault happens because we let it. she's a victim because she let it happen. (she is a part of we). that minimizes.

and to be fair, this is a new idea you are presenting: so fucked up that I was just as horrified that the woman in question didn't do anything in response. that's not what you said earlier. it makes it sound like you think it's crazy she didn't respond differently, when what you actually said was closer to: crazy shit like this happens because we let it. NOT: crazy shit like this happens and people don't respond sensibly, allowing more crazy shit to happen.

so, you take my too long but reasoned post, and deal with one idea only: minimizing. that's not even the most important part. but you skip the rest. then you defend that you aren't minimizing by introducing a something you didn't say before, a new argument, that makes more sense but that doesn't defend your initial position.

and of course how i respond -- what i say -- says more about me than it says about you. how everyone responds has to say more about them. it also might tell how you are being interpreted by others.

Therein lies the point, Geoffrey. Taking issue with me is a two way street: it illustrates both my personality and that of whoever chooses to implicate me in such a way.

To assume you are implicitly right to do so implies that your perspective is without fault. And that's not at all fair.

Also, let's step back a second to the topic and momentarily humor the postulate that this woman is a powerless, helpless victim: why didn't anyone a) notice what was going on and b) stop the guy? There are dozens of passengers on a plane and seatbacks are relatively low. I can't imagine somebody with more self-confidence didn't see and was horrified by what had happened. Plus, it takes considerable time and effort to climax on top of somebody.

Her reaction, however, illustrates a symptom of society: a passivity toward atrocity, even when it's right before our eyes, and how others exploit this passivity. You have to admit that's as fucked up as what this guy did.

All I know is that if anyone other than the three of us is still bothering to read this, I think they'll have no difficulty realizing why I found your posts annoying enough to say something, Gomez.

not at all. first i didn't say i or anyone here was implicitly wright. even if i did, that doesn't mean i think my entire perspective is without fault -- or, conversely, that i do.

even so, for me to say you are wrong is as fair as you saying you are right (which is arguably what you did when you first posted.)

but maybe this is part of your grand experiment.

i still think you were subtly victim blaming -- whether intentional or not, as described above. you said you think people are upset at your honesty, but i maintain it is both the content of your posts and the way in which you present them that can be upsetting. i'm not always right, and often state make statements that are a matter of opinion.

That you have a problem with anything I write specifically, leek, ultimately indicates that you're not reading anything I write objectively anyway, i.e. reading with prejudice, so I suppose it's all a wash.

And points certainly taken, Geoffrey. And no, there wasn't any social experiment with the remainder of this discussion: that is for another time. While this general attitude towards me from many is still a lingering issue, I do appreciate your efforts to try and objectively discuss it.

That you have a problem with anything I write specifically, leek, ultimately indicates that you're not reading anything I write objectively anyway, i.e. reading with prejudice

Unreal. Whatever, man.